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Azalaksh
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posted March 19, 2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm friends (at least for right now!) with a man whose Venus is opposed to my Mars orb 4, and my Venus is trine his Mars orb <1.
Linda wrote that Venus square or opposed Mars could bring serious friction along with that powerful sexual chemistry. And she wrote that Venus trine or sextile Mars means "You're blessed with the gift of combining romantic...affection with intense sexual desire...conflicts from other planetary vibrations in your intercharts will disappear in the bedroom."
How do I reconcile the differences in how this is read?

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posted March 19, 2005 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Azalaksh, if you don't get any feedback on this one, I just went into Google and typed Venus and Mars synastry and it came up with a whole lot of stuff - really informative - thanks again for your help with my questions love sue x

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Azalaksh
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posted March 19, 2005 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the tip sue g, I'll do that!
I'm humbly hoping for a comment from astro junkie or sthenri or pidaua or pixelpixie or one of the others whose opinions make a lot of sense to me......

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pidaua
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posted March 19, 2005 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there...


Well, it's like this..it depends on which aspect is triggered. At times you may be more Mars opposed / Square Venus, say a transit (like the emotional moon) highlights your Mars and you feel a bit more irritable, you may not want to deal with his emotional / affectionate needs (his Venus).

But...that trine aspect between your Venus and his Mars can soothe it over - or if his Venus is being highlighted by a Jupiter, Venus or even Neptune transit, he may be more able to deal with that Mars opposition.

I have this aspect with Mr. Taurus. My Mars trines his Venus (Pisces / Cancer) but his Pisces Mars squares my Venus in Sag. There are times when my affectionate nature is not in synch with his..meaning- there are times he does not feel I am "Romantic" enough. LOL..

You also have to look at the sign..see, for me I love a good debate, activity..etc...that makes me feel affectionate / flirty (Venus in Sag), but he likes more of the quiet tenders moments and would like if I was more touchy-feely (Venus in Cancer / Mars in Pisces). I can oblige to a point and I understand (Mars in Pisces) but other times I just look at him like..HEY..just play with me!!!

You also have to look at other vibrations and take them as a whole, some great aspects really do wonders in smoothing over the whole synastry chart. Mr T and I have many conflicting aspects, but we have a very strong Moon-Jupiter and Sun /Venus - Neptune conjunction as well as house placements that send strong beams of love to each other.

The harsh aspects do cause problems. There may be times when you just look at your mate and think, if he does "list the annoyance here" I am going to bonk him on the head LOL...

By the way, what is his Venus / Mars signs and what are yours?

I hope this helps

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Azalaksh
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posted March 19, 2005 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 1,000,000 Pidaua, I have always paid a lot of attention to your replies to others because you have a lot of common sense and are able to give us perspective that we who are involved can't see (forest-for-the-trees thing).
Me - Venus in Libra in II, Mars in Virgo in I
Him - Venus in Pisces in II, Mars in Gemini in V.
We're not romantically involved (yet!) but I feel the tug of that magnetism we share and I think he does too. He's not familiar with astrology (yet!). I've been trying to look at our individual aspects first to get some insight, then if I'm not too overwhelmed, take a look at our combined chart and then some transits.
I really like the way you write -- thanks for taking the time to share your experience with me!

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pidaua
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posted March 19, 2005 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ak,

Thank you for your compliments. I like to help and I have had so many wonderful people here educate me on astrology.

I think you are going about things the right way. Look at your own individual aspects and then how you affect each other is the best way to learn. Also, really look at where your planets fall into his house and vice versa.

I love the challenging aspects, they help us to understand where we need to improve and what we can anticipate regarding those manifestations in our lives.

I put together an individual work up and then a synastry work up for Mr. Taurus. He had always been intrigued with astrology, but wasn't into it as much as I am. The reports helped us address some of our issues in an objective manner. We could say "Hey, Mr. T, your Mercury opposes my Sun, there are going to be some misunderstandings that we will have to deal with, but now we know".

You said:
Me - Venus in Libra in II, Mars in Virgo in I
Him - Venus in Pisces in II, Mars in Gemini in V.

His Mars and your Venus trine will help smooth our some of the rougher vibrations. He will want to work things out, even when your Mars doesn't quite understand his more soft and dreamy Venus. Virgo doesn't always understand Pisces, but they both have a lesson to learn, they compliment each other and that aspect DOES add sexual magnetism.

You have Mars in the 1st house, which makes you even more magnetic (does that mean you are a Virgo rising? If so, then his Venus may fall into your 7th house..that is a very nice placement. My Venus falls into Mr T's 7th house (you see that in married partners charts).

Since his Venus in Pisces falls in his 2nd house, is he an Aries rising or Pisces rising? If he is Pisces rising, that is even a nicer vibration (although Aries rising goes well with your Mars in the 1st). Should he be a Pisces rising his DSC may fall into your 7th house and vice versa..another nice placement.

It is true, that knowledge is power. Knowing your friction points will help you through those rough patches and you will be able to address them. Even if ONE person in the couple is familar with astrology, it can make a world of difference.

What are your Sun and Moon signs (for both of you).

~Pidaua

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Azalaksh
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posted March 19, 2005 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua, thank you so much for your insights, I'm excited that you found us interesting enough for comment!!!
Actually, he doesn't know when he was born. My intuition says he's Capricorn Rising, so I picked up Relationship Signs and found the approximate hours Linda gives for Rising Signs, then ran his natal chart. I "felt" that 1:00am was about right (letting my Pisces Moon in VIII pick a number) rather than 11pm for the same birthday, which is when Cappy comes around again. He's tall, dark, angular, self-contained, with a deadpan and self-deprecating sense of humor, and an ageless quality of looking younger than he is -- all things that spoke to me of Cappy. Also, with this guesstimated birth time, his Sun and Mercury are in the 3rd house, same as me. We talk and write in a very similar fashion (and often finish each other's sentences!).
You're close with guessing I have Virgo Rising, but it's 29 Leo. I saw that his Venus is in my 7th, and even though Aquarius is on the DC, Pisces fills my 7th House, and I am very much attracted to and attuned to people with Water emphasis in their charts. But I also thought that the Sun was the important aspect to have in the 7th and never considered Venus. My Uranus in Cancer is in his 7th, poor guy, that could be fun for him!
I'm Libra, he's Aries. My Moon is in Pisces (conj his Venus), his Moon in Cappy (I think -- if my guess was wrong and he was born in pm instead of am he may be Moon in Aquarius, but that doesn't "feel" right). Our Suns opp orb 2. Our Sun/Pluto connections are trine and sextile, both with orbs of less than two degrees. His Neptune is conjunct my Sun, orb close to zero. His Uranus is trine my Moon. Some very interesting psychic and karmic connections are at work/in play here. I find him totally intriguing, and the Aries puppyish/boyish/childlike-ness is very compelling. Here, I'll just list us:

Positions and Data for Me:
Sun xxx position is 26 deg. 42 min. of Libra xxx M M - 7
Moon xxx position is 26 deg. 22 min. of Pisces xxx F F - 4
Mercury xxx position is 20 deg. 38 min. of Scorpio xxx F
Venus xxx position is 2 deg. 11 min. of Libra xxx M
Mars xxx position is 22 deg. 24 min. of Virgo xxx F
Jupiter xxx position is 26 deg. 26 min. of Gemini xxx M
Saturn xxx position is 29 deg. 44 min. of Libra xxx M
Uranus xxx position is 23 deg. 04 min. of Cancer xxx F
Neptune xxx position is 23 deg. 44 min. of Libra xxx M
Pluto xxx position is 24 deg. 41 min. of Leo xxx M
Asc. xxx position is 29 deg. 54 min. of Leo xxx M

Positions and Data for Him:
Sun xxx position is 24 deg. 33 min. of Aries xxx M M - 5
Moon xxx position is 22 deg. 40 min. of Capricorn xxx F F - 6
Mercury xxx position is 16 deg. 02 min. of Aries xxx M
Venus xxx position is 18 deg. 49 min. of Pisces xxx F
Mars xxx position is 2 deg. 55 min. of Gemini xxx M
Jupiter xxx position is 21 deg. 14 min. of Cancer xxx F
Saturn xxx position is 19 deg. 36 min. of Scorpio xxx F
Uranus xxx position is 23 deg. 41 min. of Cancer xxx F
Neptune xxx position is 26 deg. 57 min. of Libra xxx M
Pluto xxx position is 24 deg. 25 min. of Leo xxx M
Asc. xxx position is 8 deg. 19 min. of Capricorn xxx F

Yes, knowing our friction points will be of huge benefit if we connect even more. Being Libra, I will be the one to compromise and make concessions with this fella who has SIX planets in Cardinal signs. I think his Venus conj my Moon in Pisces (although a large orb of 8) will help moderate this Ram's charges!
Thanks again for any thoughts you wish you send!
PS: You and Mr T have Mars conjunct in Pisces? That's fascinating, I've never talked to anyone with that placement. This is from cafeastrology:
Mars in Pisces ~
Mild-tempered and gentle, these guys and gals move through life in a manner that can hardly be considered direct. Mars is the planet of action and assertion, and Pisces is a passive sign that rarely asserts itself in a direct fashion. So the placement of Mars in Pisces is an unusual combination. Sometimes prone to feelings of guilt about their anger, and difficulties with asserting themselves, Mars in Pisces individuals seem to "go with the flow". This is certainly not a very active position for Mars, and natives will often let life "happen" instead of trying to control their life direction. This is a charming position, as individuals with Mars in Pisces don't appear like they are capable of harming a fly. However, those that don't find creative expression for this energy can stir up a storm through indirect aggression.
What do you think of that interpretation?
PPS: Have you been avoiding your neighbor's dogs like you were told?!?

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Azalaksh
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posted March 24, 2005 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**bump for alma-noble**

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posted March 24, 2005 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will add for you some articles about Mars-Venuse, I've saved from internet:

Venus-Mars interaspects: these are classic aspects, although they can be rather troublesome. Any aspect between these planets in synastry points to sexual and romantic attraction. However, the square, opposition, and quincunx can cause friction at the same time. There is considerable attraction, but over time, this sexual energy can become disruptive when left unchecked. Remember that the more difficult aspects have great value in that they stimulate people. Arguments often augment the sexual act in some way. The square tends to be the most troublesome one -- sexual attraction exists and is powerful, but sex is often delayed as the couple tends to engage in arguments that take time to work out before they do what they really want to do. Here, sex is probably the root of the arguments, even if this is not immediately apparent. These couples may try to resolve this conflict by attempting to consciously let down their defenses, turn off their egos, and just have sex. This way, they may find that they have much less to argue about. The reason for this is that the square gives tremendous physical attraction and tension that is very often disguised and mischanneled.

Aspects from Venus to Mars are particularly associated with physical and sexual attraction, since they link the Venus principle of beauty and love with the Mars one of physical energy; and in this instance all types of aspects are favorable, including squares and oppositions, whose more conflicting inherent energies make for a magnetically appealing challenge to be grounded in this arena of life.

Venus trine Mars
This is one of the best comparative aspect for sexual compatibility. There is likely to be a strong romantic attraction here, as well as a connection conducive to emotional and social compatibility. This is an excellent combination for romantic relationships and for marriage because of the high degree of both social and sexual compatibility.

Venus opposed Mars
This comparative combination indicates intense sexual, romantic attractions. It is, however, completely dependent on harmonizing factors elsewhere in charts for any degree of stability or enduring qualities. This opposition shows problems with jealousy and possessiveness, and a lack of diplomacy in the relationship. Mars, in this placement, tends to be overly aggressive and inconsiderate, and Venus here is often supersensitive and easily hurt. Both parties are apt to feel that they are being used, and resentment and conflict often results. Nonetheless, this is a very exciting and sexually stimulating placement.

Mars in Earth people are rarely aggressive, but they absolutely are determined individuals. Their goals in life are often quite practical--ones that are realistic and attainable. They get up in the morning with the idea that they must work for what they want in life. There is a basic resourcefulness to Mars in Earth.

Mars in Air people generally have many interests and drives. These natives are especially clever about getting what they want. Unlike Mars in Fire, Mars in Air natives are quite capable of adopting airs and tactics to get and do the things they want. These natives are quite polished in manner. They'll rarely offend you in an overt way, preferring to settle things on an intellectual level.

When Mars in Earth and Mars in Air people interact: there can be a conflict between the Earth Mars's desire for results and Air Mars's curious, theoretical nature. Earth becomes impatient with Air's many theories, which often seem impractical to Earth. Air's biggest complaint is that Earth is stuck in the material world, and Earth's focus is far too narrow. What good is theory without practical application in the real world? Why waste so much time thinking?, asks Earth. Similarly, Air can quickly become frustrated with the subjective and overly practical Earth person. Life is not just about what can be done--what is life without higher thought?, asks Air.
How they can benefit each other: Earth Mars can help Air Mars handle the details of everyday life, bringing some practical value to Air's many theories; Air can stimulate Earth to think in objective terms.
Common Ground: Both Earth and Air are dry thinkers who easily separate thought and communication from emotion and passion.

I hope will be a little hepl for you I don't know how to analize all of the links between these planets but of course you must look to everything else ... like all Pidaua mentioned

All the best!

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Azalaksh
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posted March 24, 2005 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alma-noble ~
Thanks for copying in all those great interpretations!

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Yeah, the first thing I thought of for one side being a "favorable" Aspect, and from the other, it is "negative" - I thought of who the Mars person is, and whether they would need to be MORE proactive, or take a step back sometimes... hmmm ...

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Azalaksh
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posted March 26, 2005 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, A.J. ~
I believe that "Proactive" side would be me, the adaptable Libra with Mars in Virgo. And how problematic could Mars in Virgo be, anyway? It's not like having Mars in Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn. I find that my Mars in Virgo lends me energy to deal with the details of life -- I'm a tree-person, not a forest-person.....

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