posted March 19, 2005 11:12 PM              

to give you a recap of what i remember: there was this whole issue in the thread about, why do they lie, and this one pisces guy said well its not lying, we just dont think ppl can handle the truth, but others said, maybe u cant handle speaking the truth while others desperately need to listen to it,

it was surprising how many ppl have had bad experiences with pisces men, i stay away from them and have had no experience with them becoz so many ppl i know have had just HORRID experiences with them. They tend to not be quite in touch with reality from what ive seen and heard, they can create illusions so effectively in their mind that the illusions become real for them.

posted March 20, 2005 02:15 AM              

1. like i said, they have trouble being blunt with the truth and just saying things like they are in reality.
2. pisceans are known to have problems with substances, (bad neptune in chart usually = drug problems etc.) and this usually only encourages escapist behavior. not saying that pisces ppl are drunkards, but that there is a tendency to overindulge in substance abuse, just like we gems have a tendency to cut someone with our words or be mean!
3. pisces have a totally different perspective of the world, a dreamy artistic one if you will, they don't believe very much in rules and structure and discipline for the most part, and that would probably include moral rules and regulations that they feel society places on them.
4. pisces men know that women crave men with sensitivity. thus they know how to play us for fools, because they DO genuinely have sensitivity, but play it up in that romantic way that makes all women foolish at some time or another.
5. they feel entitled to more than one of everything since they are two as well (a dual sign, I think every dual sign has a tendency to cheat).
6. pisces men tend to be very physical in romancing, they can never be satisfied physically by one woman, if they are physically dissatisfied then there is NO way that they will be loyal
7. pisces is water, which will mold to any form you put it in, it isnt structured like earth, there is none of the method-to-the-madness of fire, or logic of air, PLUS it is mutable, and being a mutable myself I know how screwed up us mutables can be, indecisive, and thinking about too many options. combo = hard to stay faithful in relationships.
8. most pisceans have had some sort of traumatic incident in their lives--abusive parents, shattered dreams, and we all know how important dreams are for them. a lot of the time they will pay back to others what they felt they received in the earlier parts of their lives.
9. a lot of pisces men dont see cheating as cheating; they justify it in their minds because it fulfills their dreams and fantasies and sometimes they have a hard time differentiating between the two.
10. pisces will tell you they don't love you, but nonverbally, its imperative to follow their nonverbal messages, communicating with them is harder than communicating with a blind bat in my opinion. watch their eyes dart around and their hands fidget and the elusive smile when you press for the three little words, and there you have it, you got the three little words execpt they are "No I Don't"...
11. many pisces men do not respect women as more than works of art, sorry to put it that way im not suggesting that theyre chauvinistic, but each male sign, in my opinion has their first impression of the female, which later on becomes the primary way they see females. Pisces men tend to see them as works of art, sleep around, have fun, art is for fun right, every new woman is like a new painting to admire and stick ur finger at, then u move on to the next best one thats more bright and colorful.
what i mean by the male signs having first impressions which then turn into primary visions of females: for ex. cancer men see their women as mothers, leo men see women as complements to them or their family, would they fit the lioness role?
scorpio and aries men tend to initially see women as physically attractive, sex objects. they usually dont establish a relationship with these women, if they do establish a relationship with u it means that you showed them you're more than the primary vision they imagined, so they want to be with you longer.

posted March 20, 2005 03:44 AM              

Other Pisces men that I know are capable of saying they love you, getting all passionate and emotional like they mean it. Profess life-changing feelings and plans and be offended if you question their new-found logic and common sense. Dreams become practical to the point where they can make you believe them as well.

And then that same night they can go out and get 10 phone numbers, kiss 2 girls and sleep with 3 more if the opportunity presents itself.

The feelings and dreams they had with you were are probably are still genuine.

The thing is, the ability to merge with anyone and become them and think and feel as them means that you can see the beauty in anyone and everyone, especially women in a Piscean man's mind. And this means that all of you are special, but very very few of you have the ability to be "special" - forever.

Unless you are that girl you never stand a chance in the long-run even if neither of you know it at the time, and with the Piscean imagination even Angelina Jolie would have her work cut out....

posted March 20, 2005 10:19 AM            

I'm afraid I contributed to the 'Pisces and Lying' thread started, I think, by Aqua Girl.

Being a Virgo myself, I have learnt from past experience not to take their utterances too seriously, because they don't really know whether they mean it or not.

But despite that, they have many positive traits, as you probably know....

posted March 20, 2005 02:01 PM              

Lets see if I can help - or completely confuse everyone

The problem is…Pisceans have this whole “serving humanity” thing - emotionally not literally
They have this insanely deep desire to feel needed. If they’re not, then they have no purpose.
If a fish thinks you need them, they’ll almost always be around. Certain people can mistake this for love. It might make it easy for you if you understand that many typical fish love everyone well ok…maybe not everyone. So naturally if you’re with a charming boy fish who’s selfless, considerate, sympathetic, understanding etc etc it can make you feel really special and loved. Only thing is…he’s like that with nearly everyone!

Now if you make them think you really need them, you can easily push them into a relationship through guilt… without even realising it. As time goes on, they find themselves giving, but not getting what they really want. What do they really want? God only knows only they know what they want.
This doesn’t mean they don’t love you…they probably do - but in the kind of way they love humanity. Does that make sense?

posted March 20, 2005 05:57 PM              

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see the beauty in anyone and everyone...And this means that all of you are special, but very very few of you have the ability to be "special" - forever.

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I am constantly reminding myself that not everyone thinks like this. I like staying in touch with people that I had something special with at one point (friends or guys who were romantically interested). Usually it's because I found tenderness with one, and laughter with another, and excitement with another, and art and music and stars with another...Why let it go if we are both enjoying ourselves? But when the visit is over, I realize that they are no longer enjoying themselves because they know I am leaving and was never theirs to begin with.

I can't do these things anymore - its perceived as game playing or leading on. In my mind, I am thankful for their companionship. Each one of these people are beautiful and special in their own ways, and we are both benefitting from the experience. It's just not true though.

Anyhow, I hope I gave a little glimpse into how we think, however ridiculous it may sound. Hope it helps.

- hooked