posted March 29, 2005 10:00 PM              

1 Having no major aspect connecting Sun/Moon or Asc - by degree

2 Having a sextile aspect where the signs are of different modalities (mainly fixed/mutable... cardinal/mutable is easier.. and cardinal/fixed is easiest)

I'm not going add trine to this because in a trine the sings are in the same element - so they have that for common ground..

The reason I think this is because.. With the square or opposition at least you want the same things and work towards the same things (in different ways) due to modality. Cardinal/Fixed and Mutable all seem to have very similar goals and aspirations, they just have different ideas about how to achieve those goals.. Personally I deffinetly feel the Aries Capricorn similarities in my chart. They're not totally different. Neither are Scorpio and Leo.. Sag and Gemini and so forth..

And when you contrast this with a Sun Moon sextile like Leo/Gemini for instance (my mum has this, the gemini drives her crazy - I told her how they should be able to work together and all that .. but she feels they don't work together because they are too different). Or one of my friends Pisces/Libra - no aspect.. I get the feeling they work in totally different directions with no common ground..

No doubt the opposition and the square aren't easy but there's a similarity of purpose there - a pretty well defined connection that keeps it all together

posted March 29, 2005 10:34 PM              

Hard aspects aren't inherently bad, but mostly they are challenging. Hence why moi has a Mercury squared moon in mutable signs - which is often poo-poo'd as a VERY VERY negative aspect by the cookie-cutter astrologers - yet have dealt very well with it. Is there challeneges? Yes.Have there been negative traits I've had to deal with? Yes. But am I a pathological liar and spineless double-crosser? Well, if I am, I don't deserve to several long-time and wonderful (and honest) friends I have. And I'd like to think you can judge someone by the company they keep.

When plaents don't tightly aspect, planet DO still connect, albeit in other ways. Like your Pisces-Libra friend. I have one of those too, and there's not as much discord there as you'd think. Libra, afterall, corules Venus, which is very Pisces-friendly (Venus afterall is exalted in Pisces). And with Libra being the most easy-going of the cardinal signs, it gives Pisces a bit of focus and support without overwhelming it. Hence, she's a highly creative,accomplished and spiritual person, and while she's had so trials in her life, her Sun and moon mainly work in constructive harmony despite not being tightly aspected to each other (it helps that she has too exalted planets though - Pisces Venus and Cap Mars - but again, that's context at work).

But I must say i'm glad that you're giving this thought and assessing your own experience with astrology thus far. In particular, it's great to start thinking more about how the "basics" of astrology like the modalities affect how planets interact together. The world needs more thinkers.

posted March 31, 2005 07:36 PM              

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When planets don't tightly aspect, planets DO still connect, albeit in other ways

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Doesn't it make it harder to connect though? The reason I think that, and the reason I came to my lil conclusion is cause I thought about it from a synastry point of view. A lot of astrologers say tighter aspects are felt more so, so you kind of feel the energy and can work with it. I find that ppl I lack a lot of major aspects with are very hard for me to figure out. Especially if there's no aspects connecting Sun/Moon.. Moon/Moon, Sun/Sun by degree.. and also Mercury.. Personally, I feel more comfortable even with squares and oppositions in a relationship with someone rather than no aspects.. I mean I haven't met enough ppl (who's charts I know) who fall in those categories to have enough case studies to really form an opinion on this, but it's just what I noticed with a bunch of ppl..

Like ppl with a lot of late Aqua planets.. make no connection to my sun or moon.. or my pisces mercury etc.. I can't get their deal sometimes. We don't have common ground. Because my asc is late Gemini I find it easy to pretend we do though.. Like I'll smile and laugh and whatever, but on the inside I feel like there's no connection there. So I guess I'd prefer a relationship with someone who squares and opposes all my planets lol than feel no connection at all.. do you know what I mean?

I'm guessing this depends on the person as well though. I mean I really like intensity, not everyone does. So I prefer, conjunctions, squares, oppositions in both natal and synastry to easy aspects like trine, sextile and other smaller aspects.. I've only realised this recently though. I feel instant connections with ppl I have conjunctions and oppositions with and I love feeling instant connections. Whereas, I met a person who I only have trines with (no conj, no opp and no significant square).. we have like 2 grand trines - you'd think that'd be nice but it's pretty damn boring and there's no intensity at all.. I don't really FEEL something for the person.

But yeah, just my opinion soz to rant again.. Pls reply though I'm really interested in what you think and I really like reading your insights

Thx, aries-chick

posted March 31, 2005 10:43 PM              

The squares are hard but they create energy, and I believe some of the movers and shakers must have this energy, as I can feel it. Sure it's tough to be around all the time, but so is everything.

I have Jupiter trine Sun, so I know I need a push now and then again with a more intense personality.

The trine I do like is Saturn trine Sun, I can feel that one for some reason, that trine has stamina, glue, backbone.

posted April 02, 2005 12:06 AM              

Yeah, I'd say being an Aries has to do with it. I also have similar oppositions to you. Mars/Neptune trine Venus and opp my Asc. Sun/Moon square and Venus opp Pluto..

I have a Sun(Aries) Saturn(Sag) trine (pretty close, 2. something deg). I haven't payed much attention to that trine lol cause when I hear Saturn I think, man that's boring and my brain switches of. It is a good trine to have though. The interpretation on astro said something about getting along well with parents and authority figures (and i've always gotten along well with both), despite other influences like Cap moon that seem to go against that..(against the mother figure anyways)

As opposed to my bf who fervently despises authority figures .. But maybe that's a Libra thing or his Uranus singleton (only fire sign - Sag) Pretty funny since I am a fire sign .. and my only air would be my asc - which I figured out btw is most probably gemini - it makes a lot more sense