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sue g
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posted March 31, 2005 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read in a book some time ago that "Scorpio women make the worst mothers and wives but good lovers". Since then I have met quite a few women who have admitted to me that their Scorpio mothers' were a total nightmare. My dads mom was a Scorp and all she was interested in was going out and having a good time (loved the blokes as well), this left such a bad wound with my Dad, he still hasnt forgiven her. I was wondering what you guys think. Me a Scorp, married three times (take from that what you will), am a mum and wife, I put a lot into those roles to the point of exhaustion..........as for the lover, well that would be telling. Anyone any comments?? xx

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sue g
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posted March 31, 2005 01:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
p.s. i cant actually remember meeting anyone who had a good thing to say about their Scorp mom, I wonder if its something to do with control, possessiveness, sting etc???

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pixelpixie
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posted March 31, 2005 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to be a great wife and mother.
I feel guilty because I feel I can't possibly be ( with my limitations) what my family needs or wants.
I feel very conflicted inside. Times I devote myself wholeheartedly to this whole family thing, other times, I trust my husband to care in the ways I lack. To be there, when I can't find it in myself to be what they need. Whether this is true or just my inner feelings I don't know. I do have a fourth house Sun, and the fourth is loaded, it's a Stellium.
I can see myself falling away. I hate it though. I want to be all, I love them sooooooo much. *sob*
Sometimes I do feel it would be better for all involved if I packed up, but I couldn't bear to not smell them and touch them and share with them.
These are my demons.
My kids love me. No issue with that. Will I scar them? Possibly.
Maybe when we are aware of what we lack, we try harder to compensate?

I am always saying to my hubby.. "I am not designed for this.. everything I do, I don't do it properly somehow...etc etc".. he has gotten to the point where it is my mantra, so hhe gets mad. I think he doesn't properly see the vulnerability at the core of it.

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maya-v
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posted March 31, 2005 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom is a Scorpio ... she has her faults but I think she is an AMAZING mom ... she gives so much of herself; she is passionate abt being a mom, she worries abt us and even if she made mistakes and her own choices I respect her and love her so much for being who she is and standing by her beliefs. Everyone respects her and looks up to her and its amazing how people keep coming up to me and telling me how amazing she is and how she helped them ... quiet yet such a strong presence in the entire family and cirle of friends.

Pixie ...

This one is for you ... I see so many reflections of her in you ... you must be a terrific mom and an amazing wife ... you too sue and all the other Scorpio moms who are protective, loving and so passionate in every thing they do - be it changing a light bulb or being a mom!

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amisha121877
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posted March 31, 2005 02:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mom was a scorpio too - she also had her faults but i couldn't have asked for a better mom......a no nonsense, protective mom

i wish i would have told her that before she passed at a young age, i think, no, i know she didn't think i loved her and that hurt her deeply and she tried VERY hard with me, in the end, but I guess, I was too stubborn to tell her that I had forgiven her a looooooooong time ago and that I always wished that i could grow up to be, at least, 1/2 the woman she was. I could conquer all those demons that plagued her all her life and succeed in all that she pushed aside to become a mother because i see a lot of the desires she had, coming to light in me. we (all her children, etc.) will succeed for her and for us.

i wish she was still here....because i missed many many years with her but spent the best years of my life with her at the end. if your children told you/felt/were convinced that they loved you very much, that you were the bomb, and they looked up to you like you were the most amazing person on earth and to one day grow up to be as strong, stylish, well-respected and courageous as you - would that make you stay and not feel like you were inadequate but instead that you had more of yourself to share with them? btw - my mom had this positive presence around children too - they thought she was a cool but strong mom.

despite whatever demons plagued my mom - ALL of her children miss and love her dearly and would have fought for her, alongside her if/when it EVER came up.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 31, 2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amisha~
quote:
my mom had this positive presence around children too - they thought she was a cool but strong mom

Yes, this is me. I think.

Even when they pass, our loved ones know. even those things we never told them ( though I am sure you did tell her in your own way, and she knows anyhow...)
I know you don't need me to tell you this, but it is nice to be reminded, yes?

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noreenz
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posted April 01, 2005 02:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly makes a "good mother" anyways?

One of my dearest friends is a double Scorp-single mom. She is truly one of the best "Mothers" I know.

Amisha-your mother knows how you feel, I'm sure she is tickled pink with the tribute to her, it means alot. I believe she is very much around you.

Pix- you stated your children love you. Then you are a great mother, don't ever doubt it. Being a great mother isn't about being perfect. I believe the best mothers aren't perfect, we are here to teach and love them and then set them free. I just hope that I have a great realtionship with all of them as adults, if I can manage that, then I've done well.

Regarding possibly scarring the children? Ya know, that is tough, I think we all fear that decisions we make in our life might harm the children. We are told to do or not to do certain things because of the children. Often times people loose who they truly are because of this. So what is really fair? Who is being selfish? I certainly have a different look on other peoples actions now that I am older.

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Aen
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posted April 01, 2005 04:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"Scorpio women make the worst mothers and wives but good lovers".

Such a sweeping generalization.... Just toss that book.

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Secret Garden
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posted April 01, 2005 05:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue g, I have seen some pretty bad Scorp mothers and wives, but I wouldnt attribute it to the sun sign. I had a post earlier about my control freak Scorp sister who totally dominates her husband to the point of keeping him like a pet. Its rather disgusting reallie

I think domination, control, possessiveness has more to do with aspects, honestly, as well as the houses populated. A lot of Scorp sun people realize that love and strength will win over what domination and power games cannot. I know a Libra girl (my cousin) who has a very badly aspected Pluto and Neptune and has severe domination/power problems. She is worse than any Scorp I have seen, although traditionally Libras are supposed to be compromising to their partners, to keep the harmony and all that. She is however very difficult as she always tries to dominate all the men around her (!)

I think in answer to your question that any mother who truly loves her children, throughout her entire life, and tries her best to give to them, and not to take away, her efforts and motivations will be apparent in the end. Sometimes children will feel wounded, it may be justified or unjustified, some parents are really horrible yes, but many scars, especially those minor ones that we get from our family members (and believe me we get scars from our families ALWAYS no matter how well we get along), usually these scars heal quick and are eventually forgotten.

So I wouldnt take to heart any bad Scorp mom/wives reputation floating around out there. I personally admire Scorpio women for their strength and perseverence. I think you all can be real gems, honestly (gems = jewels not us Geminis ). My moms boss is a Scorpio woman who converted to our faith, and had to battle her entire family to marry the man she did. He loved her for ten years, they had 2 kids together, then he became a hopeless drunk and lost his medical license.

She is a doctor who runs her own practice, and has managed to keep her husbands morale up, get him a new license through her constant support and love, and raise two wonderful boys and fully pay for their grad school education. Her sons love her more than the dad (whos a Gem, not the jewel btw), and her husband loves her beyond any stretch of the imagination as well. Her family eventually realized it was their mistake to punish her for her choices; two of her siblings got into deep do-do and she was the one who bailed them out despite their snideness before, she was the one who supported her mother through paralysis.

Oftentimes Scorpio women are the ones who bear everyones hurt, everyones scars, so if they give a few along the way, so what? Doesnt everyone?

I am a Gem sun, Scorp moon, but oftentimes I wish I had been a Scorp sun/Gem moon,

I admire your tenacity and survival skills, they include love and understanding in my opinion. Scorpio women give a whole new meaning to strong femininity.

Love
SG

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sthenri
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posted April 01, 2005 07:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie, you couldn't scar your children, you love too much. The only people who do that are ones that are incapable of giving and receiving love. My mother is a Scorpio and you can read a little about her in my thread on Taurus-reassurance. She is not a good person to have in my life, but she was a good mother, better mother than wife.

Scorpio women are independent, they do not dream of being wives, but they are very loyal and honest about their feelings. Honesty is more important than obedience, to a Scorpio.

Unless one gets under the influence of drugs or drinks too much, or the influence of someone who does, they generally make good relatives. I have an aunt who is a Scorpio and she is very loyal and good to her children, although divorced twice. Of course it helps her children are easygoing Saggies.

My Grandmother was a Scorpio/Aries Moon, and got along well with all her children except my Mother another Scorpio, and a Pisces. She got a bad rap, but she was very much not into drugs or drinking and that's where the arguments came from. I can see her point. She wasn't the most attentive or loving wife but she cared for my Cappy Grandfather as well as she could, he didn't complain as he had 5 daughters.

Scorpios can be judgmental at their worst and cut people off even their own family members. But again, it's worse if there is intense religious feeling, or an altered state involved. The Scorpios I have known have a love/hate relationship with drinking and religion.

I try to avoid both, or do in moderation to avoid the judgements, in others and myself.

What I find ironic is the way some will substitute others compulsions for drinking, such as excessive praying, or fasting, or working. My Grandmother still died young, and many work themselves to death too.

So any compulsion in a Scorpio seems to go to extremes. I notice this in myself with my 8th house moon, and I avoid anything in extreme, and I avoid trusting or depending on anyone who is very compulsive and seems to have no life outside a few key obsessions-even if I find these obsessions fascinating.

Natasha

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purple_scorp
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posted April 01, 2005 08:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

okay, this is a topic very dear to my heart. Sorry, bit of a rant follows but I felt the urge to share with you, how I spend my day, my life as a scorpion mum.

My signature (though I don't use it on this forum) is a Shakespeare quote "Nothing is good or bad, only thinking makes it so". So, in relation to whether us Scorps make good mothers - it depends on your mindset or perspective. (BTW not going to discuss the wife/lover aspect of your post as it's not relevant to my situation at the moment.)

Firstly, I must say that a very-wise tarot reader once told me that Scorpion mum's were extremely protective of their children. I know it has already been mentioned here.

Me: I am a working, single-mother of two young children (6yo boy and 9yo girl). I have primary care of my children, they see their father on the weekends, once a fortnight. Not a day goes by where I am not questioning whether I've done, or said, the right thing. Maybe I could have done this, or said that. Maybe I was too harsh. Should I always be nagging them to clean their room etc? Does it really matter that they've spread all of their toys to every room in the house? How do I stop them from fighting with each other? Why did my 6yo (cancerian) blow on a dandelion and wish that I was dead? Am I neglecting him? Why does he play up on me and not his father? Why do they misbehave when I take them out with me to the point that I have to come home and put them in time out? It is now at a stage where I don't like to take them anywhere, and that makes life very isolating for me (because I don't get much time without them and the closest relative lives 2.5 hrs from here - so I don't have that support either). Why do I get woken up to screaming between the two of them, on the weekend?

During the week, I drag mysElf out of bed at 6:30am every morning....I rush my children to get them out of the door by 8.00am....we are on an extremely tight schedule. I live in a rural location and there is no before or after school care. So, I drop my children at school, as early as I can but I can't leave them until a teacher arrives. (We are talking small school here....there are only four teachers in total.) Sometimes I have to wait and then I'm grumpy cos it makes me late for work. That then means that I have to work through my lunch break to make up the time.

On the days where I don't work through lunch, I try to walk because it's the only time that I have for mysElf where I can exercise. At the other end of the day, I'm rushing home, sometimes having to stop at the supermarket on the way to buy something for dinner. I rush after work to listen to them read, to bathe them, feed them, get them ready for bed, so that I can do the dishes, make lunches for the next day, tidy up a bit and eventually sit down and have five minutes to mysElf. Then, the next day, I drag mysElf out of bed to do it all again. This is not a lifestyle that I relish and sometimes I feel overwhelmed by it all; that life is not supposed to be like this.

I am bearing the emotional and financial burden of motherhood all on my own. And I don't say this to try and gather sympathy. I am not the "poor me" type. It has always been like this. Even before I separated from my husband. I worked full-time and he was unemployed and I pretty much ran the house (inside and out). But, it is a choice that I have made and I am accepting that this is my life.

My children are the most important thing in my life, yet, sometimes I feel I don't treat them that way. I get tired. Right now I am run down and am sporting a beautiful coldsore on my nose and have a mouthful of ulcers.

At times I feel inadequate. I should be working harder, faster, smarter. I should be having more fun with them....spending more time with them. I should, I should, I should.

Well guys, that's how I feel about being a scorpion mum.

with love
purple_scorp

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pixelpixie
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posted April 01, 2005 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All who responded... Thank you for that wonderful perspective. I loved reading about things that touch me in a tender area, yet also a wonderful area.

to purple scorp
They give you a hard time because they love you and there is more at stake for them, more emotion involved than with their father.Or anyone else. So sometimes that reverts into a lesser emotion.. but it is out of love.
They probably miss you as you miss them.
You sound like a wonderful mother.. a great contributor to 'society' ( way to dumb it down, sorry) But you do what you have to do, live for your family and run yourself into the ground doing it.
Do you have selfish time after they are in bed? Do you go out? A movie, friends, crafts, anything that makes it worthwhile? A little reward can go a long way in making yourself feel like a real person who does these things through necessity but also is a person who needs to nurture. Herself.....
Once they are older, it will be easier.. er.. at least new challenges.. but there will be some independence and help from them.
Good Job! Here is a gold star.. SERIOUSLY!!!


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LibraSparkle
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posted April 01, 2005 09:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Scorpio mom was (is) a total nightmare. I'm assuming she wasn't much of a wife either... since my dad got to steppin'.

Then there are Scorps like Pix. I know she's a good mama. She speaks of how much she loves her kids so sweetly. A mother like mine wouldn't have the words to say such heart warming things about her children.

I think we all have a choice to make... Scorp or not.

My mother chose not to be a good wife/mother.

I'm choosing to be an excellent wife/mother.

What do you choose?

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Isis
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posted April 01, 2005 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother is a Scorp (Gemmy Rising, Libra Moon), and she's the greatest person I know. Actually, IMO she gives too much, is too nice, and has been screwed over because of it, mostly by the men in her life (incl. husbands, fathers, bosses).

I am not a mother, and I have never really dreamed of being a "wife" as someone else commented about above, however I have always known I wanted children. If I can be half the mother my mother was, I will be grateful.

I think that how good a mother someone is perceived to be, is often directly related to the personalities of the children. My brother, a selfish ass, thinks my mother was horrible because he didn't get some fairytale upbringing he feels he deserved (chip-on-his-shoulder-the-size-of-Maine).

Some people I've known felt their mothers were too smothery (water mom/air children), others that their mothers weren't lovey enough (water signs w/ air mothers).

I think it's ignorant for an author to allege such sweeping statements based on sun sign alone, and just another example of yet another book that demonizes Scorps. We're sex goddesses, but other than that, they find it difficult to see any other redeemable qualities. Bah.

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amisha121877
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posted April 01, 2005 05:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks all for your warm responses - pixel, i was struggling with how to answer Purple Scorp - the response ended up being over 4 pages and i knew not to send that here.

Just for the sake of reminiscing on the past and the influence my mother had on my life - i'll divulge further:

pixel, most of what you asked was the gist of it all....i'll just leave it at that unless i can e-mail it to Purple in private. but Purple, never be afraid to put your foot down - i'm sorry if anyone disagrees but you are the mother and they are the children (my mother was notorious for plucks, pinches, walking us all over God's creation so she can do what she wanted to do, and giving us responsibilities) - don't ever let them forget that AND what that means (how you want them to know it means), AND that they have to learn to work with you/help you and each other, you know? You are capable of finding a way to go about doing these things and everyone comes up happy about it and stronger more self-reliant people. My mother would give us anything we wanted when she wanted to and she was generous with herself too BUT she did not take any sh*t from us - not ever.

Yup, definitely enjoy the things that you like when you can - I know a lot of highly creative scorpio women who are very enterprising in the most unconventional of ways but you can't do that if you feel insecure as a mother AND are run by that feeling. make the most of your "free time" and not sit there waiting for them to come back home - while going over what you gonna do when they get back home or how you gonna "face" them.

my situation could have been the worst of the worse (whatever that is, whenever that was, wherever we were, whoever we were with/without) but it didn't end up that way and my mother had 4 children - two boys, two girls / from oldest to youngest (sag girl - that's me, aries boy, taurus girl, and leo boy) and no man who was consistently there (btw - she NEVER spoke negative about our fathers - NEVER), no stable home (we moved around a lot), and separations (there was a time we were taken away from her and returned but I refused to go back to her, so i didn't go back until i was 20-21), living nightmares where we were running for our lives, being the family outcasts/black sheeps and still are to this day, struggling to ignore her drug/alcohol problems because we loved her more than that, and then finally - her battle with AIDS (I was 22 and she was 39)...but my mom was so very very proud of us. always proud of us - never hesitated to boast about us (to my surprise because from the memories i had - at one time - i thought all she ever cared about was herself so...) - even when i didn't want to think of her for a few years (during the separation - i spent almost 10 years away from her during my childhood from 10 to 20, burying myself in studies and remaining emotionally distant from others - have some issues with that even to this day, btw which is a must that i address/face).

It's to the point where i hear a person say they hate their mother and i just want to bash the crap out of them (then realize that's something they will have to struggle to deal with because that type of feeling for your mom produces more pain and missed opportunities in situations that have nothing to do with your mother and trust me -you will be tested and retested and retested) - you may not like your mother or get along with her but that will always be your mother. the same goes with father's as well. Do you know - most of the issues i would have went through with my mother by my side had i stayed instead of being separated from her - i'm going through now without her being her (physically, that is)? karma/fate is something else.

it's just a case of, if i knew then what i know now.

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purple_scorp
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posted April 01, 2005 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks PP and Amisha for your kind words of support. I feel a bit awkward now because I didn’t post in this thread to become a focus (ever the secretive scorp) but I know your words were written with love so thank you for that.

I have the Sun in the first house and was also born a Master Number (22/4 life path) so I feel that I have been given some of the necessary tools to handle my lot in life.

I think that a lot of the stress that I am currently under is related to the fact that I am a single parent, as the full parenting responsibility lies solely on my shoulders. I don’t have anybody to discuss issues that may arise and, burn-out is high because there is no-one to tag-team with when I need a little time-out for mysElf.

Also, in the back of my mind is that the children are now living with the repercussions of my decision to separate and be a single parent. It was my choice, not theirs (though arguably it could be said that their souls chose this path before they incarnated). I have taken both children to see a family counsellor to help them deal with the separation aspect. I’m confident that it is not an issue for either of them.

To answer your questions, PP, I do not go out much socially as I only have a small window of opportunity, once a fortnight (Fri/Sat/Sun nights). Also, on my child-free weekends, I have to catch up on household chores. I live on a two-acre block, so there’s quite a bit of maintenance, inside and out. Don’t forget that I live in a rural location so places to go are limited and I don’t have any friends that are single, though I have no qualms going out and being the only single person in a group of couples. I registered on a single’s dating website last year and I went out on a handful of dates and that was okay but didn’t really lead to anything much.

The first couple of years after I separated (I’ve been separated for four) on my child-free weekends, I hung out a lot with a girlfriend and her husband. But last year I didn’t see her much at all (she stopped inviting me places) and now she has moved to UK. Interestingly, last year was a 9 year (Hermit) for me. This year I am in a 1 year (new beginnings).

I do, do things for mysElf but only really on the nights/days when I don’t have kids as I don’t feel right getting a friend to sit them so that I can go out. Besides, the people that I would ask to sit are really the ones that I would go out with anyhow. (I don’t live near my family.) I was playing basketball on a Sunday night, up until the start of this year (game times are now much later and for the weeks when I have my children, it is too late to drag them out of the house – and my poor body was getting too old for the physical knocks). I was also involved in a monthly Writer’s Group but am having a spell from that just at the moment. I do spend a bit of time on the computer at forums like this (and that’s what I tend to do after I’ve put the kids to bed, though sometimes I’m too tired and go to bed instead).

I love my own company. I am never bored and always, always find something to do. I have so many spiritual books to read and toys to play with. Sometimes, I even throw mysElf a little party and cook a nice meal and then put on some music and dance in my loungeroom.

I am not a pushover with my children. I am reasonably strict and I deploy various modes of discipline but that is also not much fun, as I sometimes feel like an army sergeant. I know that all children push boundaries. It is part of their growth process. Again, if I was sharing this load with someone else, I might feel different about it. We sit down and have family meetings – I try to give an equal voice to my children so that they feel ownership of any rules that are made for our house.

I don’t doubt my ability as a mother. I am a very organised, disciplined person and part of the reason that I chose to be primary carer was for the very fact that I could provide my children with stability and routine, along with nurturing and love.

Amisha, I think we may have more in common than you know…..from what you have written, there are some similarities with our relationships to our mothers…..and I might actually be able to help you with some of your issues, as I feel I have worked through some of my own in this regard.

PP, how does the emailing system work here at lindaland? Can we email to username@lindaland.com, or do we need to provide a separate email address? I’m a bit reluctant to post my email address on a public forum.

Anyhow, in summary, thanks for taking the time to post. I feel lighter just having read and replied to your posts.

with love
purple_scorp

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posted April 01, 2005 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well I think everybody got the mom they deserve.....forgetting astrology...only your mom knows whats good for you cause your a part of her,you would have been worse off with anybody else's mom....you got one mom,luv her.period.

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LibraSparkle
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posted April 02, 2005 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If only that were actually true.

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Secret Garden
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hot_ice I understand what you're saying, where its coming from, but just can't agree at all,

most moms love their kids senselessly, and they ARE a part of them so they DO know whats best, plus they usually have a 20+ years headstart on their kids experience wise and want to shelter them from the bad experiences they had themselves, so their actions/behavior/words can seem suffocating/patronizing when they're actually protective.

some moms however are seriously messed up, like that one in texas who drowned her kids, moms who molest their sons, and plenty of moms, who show up in the clinic i work at, who get mad at their kids, pull their pants down, and sit them down on a burning hot stove to scar them forever physically and emotionally.

there are plenty of places in the world where moms giving a good whipping to their daughters for no other reason than a minor mistake is acceptable, except this is not acceptable in the generally accepted universal moral principles.

there are plenty of moms who emotionally , physically, verbally abuse their children because of their own shortcomings, or take away from them opportunities.

i know a mom who stole her daughters husband, then stole her second husband, then her third, until her daughter finally committed suicide.

yes its depressing, and those women have serious mental problems, but they do exist.

just becoming a mother doesnt make one a saint on a pedestal. the relationship of mother-child is sacred, it must be carefully preserved and nurtured, this requires mutual respect on both sides.

just as the mother has rights from her child, so does she have duties. if she can't fulfill these duties she does not get the 'automatic' rights along with it like love and respect.

justice and fairness to all,

Love
SG

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as we are all having our own lesson to learn ,being a wife,or a mom ,or just staying surivie ,nothing is easy ,it is good if you are willing to be a good one .the past is passed ,let is be,face your future with full of you energy.
I too,made a tones of mistake that I can 't change no nothing now ,I mourne sometimes,but I have to learn really,to deal with the present instead thinking too much of my mistake.

sue,You are a good wife and mom ,started from today,now .cheers

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posted April 02, 2005 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sue ~
I agree with Aen -- throw away that book! What is the name of it anyway?
Thank you pixie, amisha, maya, noreenz, Natasha, SG, LibraSparkle, Isis, and especially purple_scorp, for sharing your experiences as and with Scorpio moms. This thread brought tears to my eyes. The vulnerability you all were courageous enough to express made me so proud that I am allowed to come into contact with you extraordinary people!
I'm a single (Libra) mom like you purple_scorp, and I feel exactly the way you do about not having the tag-team resource available that allows you to shelve the responsibility from time to time so that you can nourish yourself. I'd like to believe that I am handling the solo parenting job as well as you are. It's normal for us to doubt our actions and wonder if we're scarring our children (the fact that we even wonder this probably proves that we are not -- child abusers usually don't wonder if what they're doing is right), but as was stated here before, I believe THEY chose US before they incarnated, so that they could learn something from us that ONLY we could teach them. That belief gives me relief and helps me go on with the responsibilities of the day. And speaking from my own experience with my parents, I will most remember the love and pride they showed me, not the bad times.

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hot_ice, that is absolutely NOT true.

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OMG! I just posted a long assed rambling about single motherdom and ... and ... uugh...

Crap.

I'll try to put it all together again later today.


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vtt,secret garden:I was speaking out of personal exp there,had no idea that some women would actually do such horrid things to their children because my mom is the most important thing in my life,she's like my best friend,we can talk about anything,it's the same case with all my friends,all of them have very good relationships with their moms.Hope my kids get a mom like my mom.
Do some moms really abuse their kids and molest them???UGH!!These people have serious issues.....
And all you moms(purple scorp etc)out here don't worry your doin a good job,maybe you do need a little 'me time'...lastly...BURN THAT BOOK...what a dumb comment....

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Dear hot_ice,

you are blessed to have such a wonderful mother and friend. I hope my daughter speaks of me (when she's your age) the way you speak of your mother.

I must say that I found it extremely difficult and upsetting to read of the abuse in Secret Garden's post. It is awful to think that there are innocent children out there that are subjected to this kind of behaviour.

purple_scorp

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