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Ayumi
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posted April 13, 2005 09:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know anything about how an eighth house moon affects emotion and personality??? I've been doing digging on it, but haven't found much.

What if the moon is in Taurus in the eighth house?

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posted April 14, 2005 09:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would need your data to be sure. Still Moon in 8 usually has some conditioning around "Mom is not-good". Now add Tarus which is a "good Mom", so sounds like some real family conflict which leaves you with a distaste for expressing feelings and/or needs. Do you have trouble asking for what you need/want?

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posted April 14, 2005 09:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got my moon in 8th house,my mom is nice,it's in cancer...here's something i found:

Moon in 8th:

This suggests an experience of extremely powerful inner energies related to issues of sexuality, death, and magical regeneration, subjects which evoke strong responses from people and which carry certain overtones of social 'taboo' and unease.

Emotions and feelings are amplified by their roots in your unconscious mind, and can erupt with great intensity and passion if provoked. You may register the presence of inner pressures which require periodic release. These may take the form of sexual and sensual desires which appear to provide a way for you to gain emotional satisfaction. Your experience of sex will be of considerable improtance; and many of your needs will revolve around intimate relationships. You may tend toward phases of compulsive or obsessive behavior, especially when emotions are attached to a lover and if passionate feelings move beyond control.

Life's subtler and less tangible dimensions will attract; and you may explore the mystical, spiritual, and magical teachings of humanity. Spiritualism and channeling may appeal, as you hope to experience the reality of these other dimensions for yourself. Experiences of ESP may be likely if you develop latent psychic ability.

You may sensitively register people's hidden underlying feelings and motivations, or environmental atmospheres. Even during childhood, this ability may have enabled you to sense your parent's inner lives, perhaps revealing that all might not be as appearances suggest. Having such a sensitivity is not always an advantage. This experience may have shaped underlying feelings and needs. Further insight, reoslution, and integration are necessary. It is also possible that childhood experiences of death or sex may have influenced you, opening a door into adult life through which you were not prepared to pass at that time.

Adult relationships may be challenging, especially if your Moon has stressful aspects, which can indicate emotional anxieties if relationships fail. Yet you can co-operate and adapt well within relationships, often being supportive and helping your partner to develop talents and potential. Your ability to modify behavior patterns for partnership harmony can have mixed results, depending on whether or not you repress your feelings, needs and desires. Through partnerships, your financial situation is highlighted. This could come through inheritances or joint business ventures, or could imply financial struggles if the relationship collapses.

The eighth house is one of transformation and rebirth, which is likely to occur through emotional experiences. Crises may happen which create an unavoidable transformation; but these should not be viewed as negative, as they are designed to be ultimately beneficial. Within any difficult periods, look for the positive potential that can be reached through crises. Hidden deep within the darkness is the ever-shining light, waiting for your arrival. It is a purification and cleansing of your deeper emotions, feelings, and instincts that is required. When this is achieved, a healing harmony will arise.

With this placement there id a deep, silent hunger for warmth, contact, and sexual response. These people are strongly attracted to women; and for both men and women, relationships with women may be the most important in their lives. They usually relate more easily to women than to men.

This location of the Moon is a partial testimony to homosexuality or bisexuality. In a woman's chart, it may draw her to another woman as a partner. In a man's chart, it may give him the female point of view to the extent that he functions more as a woman than as a man in a relationship with another man. In any case, there is much thinking and feeling about sexuality, and there probably will be at least one peculiar sex-related experience in their lives. Children with this aspect should be watched carefully so they don't become the victim of a child molester. (Check for Moon or Venus contacts with Pluto or Saturn.)

These people are intensely warm and feeling towards friends and family, and usually toward all humanity and other creatures as well, often seeing a need where others would not. They are capable of surprising sensitivity and deeds of generosity, spurred by these insights. However, they tend to suffer at other times because no-one seems to respond to their needs in the same way, not realizing that they are different in this respect from most people. Some, men especially, may wear a mask of indifference to hide their warmth and sensitivity, as well as their sexuality. This causes deep suffering because their means of contact with the warm creature life they need and the joy of give and take with others are cut off.

People with an eighth-house Moon often experience a poignant connection between love and death. Their lives are often permanently marked by the loss, or threat of loss, of a loved one in death; and they are always aware of the drama that death creates in life. Often they are drawn to the occult in an effort to see beyond the veil that separates the living and the dead, or to find an explanation for spontaneous ESP experiences.

If other aspects in the chart corroborate, there may be much suffering caused by the mother, wife, or both, whether by loss through death, by sexual affairs that destroy family unity, or by coldnes due to a subconscious fear of the possible sexual implications of ordinary maternal intimacy. Some women with this Moon spotiion will compensate for a lack of warmth in their own childhood with too great a display of feeling towards their own children, or 'smother love'. Or they may seek to fill the void left by their own mother with lesbian relationships.

This location of the Moon inclines towards what is called 'second sight' or heightened psychic awareness. Dreams are important to these people; their psyche often communicates with them through dreams. They have an uncanny ability to predict future events.

The Moon in the eighth house is a good position for writers of words or music and for actors, because these careers are ways of translating the sensuality and sympathy into widely accepted forms, and, better yet, are means for rousing the same sensitivities and responses in the hearts of others.

(Robert Pelletier)

Because you may not have been conditioned to fully exploit your creative imagination, you will have to make a greater effort to derive any benefit from your deep sensitivity and compassionate concern for others. When you finally decide to assert yourself in serving the needs of others, you may find that they will try to take advantage of you. People tend to make more demands on you because you are so vulnerable to their suggests. Your psychic ability alerts you to people's problems, and you feel a responsibility to help them. You are a soft touch to anyone with a real problem, which you see as an opportunity to provide devotion and understanding.

Knowing so much about people can be painful, because you feel obligated to help them solve their problems. If that is the case, take advantage of it by acquiring the necessary training so that you can earn a living with this talent. Try to establish your priorities so that you are not the last to benefit from your talents. Once secure in your profession, you will have the opportunity to expand your services and earn an even higher income.

You do more for others than you do for yourself. You won't receive the services you require unless you ask for them, but you would rather not do that because it embarrasses you. If you develop your creative talents, you will be more free to choose the field of activity that will give you the fulfillment you want. Don't let your feelings of responsibility to family and loved ones prevent you from fulfilling your needs. By paying more attention to your own need to grow and develop, you eliminate the danger of insecurity in your later years. You must devote as much time to satisfying your own needs as you devote to others, or you will become bitter because you have accomplished little of lasting value for yourself.

Be careful that people don't try to take advantage of your ideas for their own benefit, even to excluding you from any reward. You have an obligation to work at developing your creative imagination so that it will be one of your most important skills. Your earnings will reflect your talent in meeting the demands of your career. Don't be afraid to let others do favors for you. You will probably enjoy the attention you get, even though it may embarrass you. Sacrificing for others is commendable, but it can defeat you by leaving you with little time to indulge yourself.

You consider it an advantage that you are psychically tuned to people's real needs, which allows you to perform services for them that others cannot. You want to enrich people's lives by doing what you can for them; and you are happy when you know you've been effective. It would be a great help to get an education that would give you the credentials you need for the work you do. This would enable you to do much more with your natural talents. You may decide to accomplish your goals in one of two ways. You may dedicate yourself in a deep spiritual response to the needs of the public, or you may indulge yourself and ignore others in their moment of need, letting them find their comfort and services elsewhere. The former, more positive, direction is liekly to prevail, and is probably the one you will take.

(Howard Sasportas)

This position gives an innate openness and attunement to hidden forces operating personally or collectively, whihc might express itself as the ability to sense evolving social currents, especially subtle economic and business trends. However, those with the Moon here could, at times, be confused or 'taken over' by powerful unconscious complexes which grip and overwhelm them. As children, they would have been extremely sensitive to undercurrents in the home environment, especially the mother's deeper feelings, moods and frustrations, which they may still be 'carrying around' inside them. Present relationships will reawaken earlier emotional patterns; and there is the need to delve into the past to uncover the roots of these problems.

Early experience with sex or death may ahve strongly affected the character. Sex or intimacy could be sought primarily for emotional security or as a way of forgetting the struggles of the world. This placement is usually very responsive to the sexual or emotional needs of the partner, and will probably not find it difficult to adapt to these. Very often, there is a natural capacity to help others discover a greater sense of their own value and worth. They may literally 'care for' other people's money, or nurture others through times of trauma and transition.

If the Moon is difficultly aspected, divorces, endings or separations may be messy and fraught with more than the usual degree of anxiety, although hitherto untapped resources and strengths could be discovered through such breakdowns and crises.

On a more mundane level, there is the possibility of inheritance of land or property, most probably through the mother or the partner.


For moon in taurus:

(Sydney Omarr)

In Taurus, the Moon indicates that the native has a good idea of what he thinks he desires: he tend to become overinterested in material things and luxuries, and can become bogged down with possessions. At times he has an obsession with collecting things. He is not necessarily a self-starter - he requires stimulation. This comes in the form of an aggressive partner or friend; or it can take the form of actual stimulants, including alcohol. He is attracted to the physical, passionate - he wants to be admired, needs attention and feels there is not so great a need for action if it makes one uncomfortable. The native has the ability to bounce back, to ride with the blows of fate, and to shift and adjust until he is secure.

The Moon in Taurus paints the picture of one who can be determined to the point of obstinacy. Idealism in itself will not move him - but it will show him where he can gain, help himself or make his position more secure. He is reserved, but loves the 'good life', including parties, excellent food and drink. His intuitive intellect, finely honed, has great 'staying power'.

The Moon here takes what comes, analyzes it to suit his own needs, and then 'lives with it'. This includes relations with members of the opposite sex. Some key words are voluptuous, indolent, and self-indulgent.

On the positive side, this lunar position gives the ability to appeal to popular tastes, to adjust to changing social conditions and capture the imagination of the public. The native is romantic, appreciates what he possesses, and can make a little go a long way.

The astrologer would do well (all other factors in chart being considered) to encourage the native to look beyond the immediate to make full use of a fine sense of what people want, need and are capable of obtaining. With the Moon in Taurus, the native should be encouraged to read, to broaden his horizons, and to realize that indeed 'a house is not necessarily a home'.

(Tracy Marks)

We who have Moon in Taurus need to experience a solid base of self-esteem and internal security, to gain confidence in our internal resources and our capacity to earn what we need and utilize what we have, to experience physical and emotional warmth, to know the pleasures and pains of living within our bodies and sense, and to maintain contact with the earth. When our essential Taurean needs have not been met, we are likely to overcompensate by indulging ourselves, compulsively clinging to other bodies, food, money and external sources of satisfaction. We may become indolent, greedy, overmaterialistic, and bound by our insistence upon security to a routine, risk-free and ultimately sterile existence.

A Taurean parent figure may have influenced our security patterns. Postively, our parent may have been earthy and well-grounded; able to provide the warmth, stability and constancy we needed; to comfort us; and to help us gain confidence functioning in the physical world. Negatively, our parent may have been ensalved by his or her senses, attempting to chain us likewise to a predominantly physical leve of existence. We may have been overindulged rather than deprived; provided with excess food, money or other comforts of living without our needing to ask, so that we came to expect to be provided for; or we may have been dominated by a possessive parent and learned to resist intrusion by dawdling or by turning to possessive and clingling behaviors ourselves.

We may repeatedly give ourselves messages about our lack of value or competence; about holding on rather than letting go; about the necessity of earning more money and maintaining our job security; or about the importance of purchasing and enjoying all the comforts and physical pleasures which soothe us. We may coddle ourselves into too easy a lifestyle or defend against our needs by maintaining too rigid a self-sufficiency. To successfully reparent our Taurean inner child, we may have to reassess those internal mesages which keep us bound in unsatisfying habits and behaviors, and to develop new messages which: a) build our self-confidence, helping us to trust and discover our internal resources and internal security base; b) encourage us to experience and satisfy the most essential needs of our bodies rather than become mired in patterns of laziness, sensual gratification and physical or material greed; c) allow us to relax and surrender to our deeper beings, so that we may let go of our possessiveness or compulsive self-sufficiency and experience our capacity truly to give and receive warmth and devotion.


Well for more info goto http://groups.msn.com/interpretations2/moonintaurus1.msnw

that website is a gold mine...
( I assume that your just learning like me)

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aries-chick
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posted April 14, 2005 11:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hot_ice

My moon's in the 8th in Cap. Those descriptions were right on the money, especially the first two. My mum's nice too lol, I'm very close to her. It's so funny to me that so many things in my chart point to probs with my mum/parents when there are no probs.. very strange

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sthenri
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posted April 14, 2005 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first description is very accurate, I have it in Cancer. The boundaries just aren't there, especially with women, so I have to identify with women in the room, in order to understand them. This can create some problems, but I just remember to identify with men too, and work in fields where there are men, so I remember my own inner voice.

Otherwise I can be bombarded by images from the women I know. I can handle emotional intimacy with a man very well, but that's because they trust me off the batt.

It's a tough position for a woman, in the public eye, you see more men than women, because of those boundary issues. Money and wealth usually comes from a partner and if you are woman than it comes from a man who can restrict public life.

It's a pain for a woman because she can't be too close to one man or else he basically manages her, but the 8th wants to be close. I find the women usually have to choose between one man they dedicate themselves to, or the public.

Here's another review

If your Moon is in your 8th house, you're seen as a Steven Seagal. The toughest part will be choosing when (and what) to fight and when not to. Likewise, it's tough to avoid sounding as if you're lecturing to people. Take life more lightly.

That's true too,

Natasha
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26taurus
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posted April 14, 2005 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house Moon in Virgo here. Those interps were right on.

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Ayumi
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posted April 14, 2005 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for all that info - I guess I wasnt digging hard enough, huh.

It's not for me, actually, its for a person I have alot of trouble understanding sometimes.
This helps alot

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sthenri
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posted April 14, 2005 08:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
26Taurus, what do you do for a living, are you a waitress? I think there is a Taurus here who is a waitress that's why I ask,

I am curious about vocations these days,

Natasha

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posted April 14, 2005 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Pisces in VIII here.
Natasha, loved what you wrote!
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If your Moon is in your 8th house, you're seen as a Steven Seagal. The toughest part will be choosing when (and what) to fight and when not to. Likewise, it's tough to avoid sounding as if you're lecturing to people. Take life more lightly.

Now, Steven Seagal is not the first person I might be inclined to compare myself to...
Ah-hah, "take life more lightly." Hmmmm. There are times when life is a bowl of cherries, but mostly it seems to be a cycle of serious responsibility mingled with repetitive duty. Thank goodness for my Leo Rising!

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Rev. Alice
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posted April 16, 2005 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For sthenri

I have Venus in Taurus in the 6th of work. I spent 30 years as a waitress.

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posted April 16, 2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house moon in leo here.Interesting stuff

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Kat
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posted April 17, 2005 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon in Pisces 8th house. I'd like to think I have some psychic ability??? Interesting and L O N G explanation. Thanks

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posted April 17, 2005 02:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, that's straight! I also have an 8th House moon in virgo, but I think the scorpio moon description fits me as well as the virgo one............

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posted April 17, 2005 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another 8th house Moon here!! Mines in Gemini. Thankyou Hot Ice for the detailed description, I love the MSN astro page!!!

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posted April 17, 2005 08:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well... glad you people liked it...

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posted May 04, 2008 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

8th

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Lara
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posted May 04, 2008 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow hot ice

I have 8th house moon/venus/saturn/NN/chiron, all in Aries and house ruler is Pisces.

All of the above applied to me, especially the life/death thing. When friends of friends die, they always hang around and chat to me until the funeral. I always experienced past live dreams when l was age 7 onwards. Always saw ghosts, always communicated with my higher self since l could talk.

My mother is not nice. I love her but she is cold and was never really there for me. I haven't spoken to her for 7 years now

One thing l don't like, is being able to see instantly other's relationship dynamics and also personal lackings... makes me want to jump in and guide them but l can't

Had a really bad divorce too which crippled me financially so it's all there! WOW

Thank you. I shall cherish you post for a long time to come.

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Aries Moon in the 8th house here.. X3 What can I say.. I guess that the 8th house can make its owner really in tune with deeper psychological issues. And emotions and feelings can become really intense and deep.

So far, my life has been fine and I'm really glad about it. ^_^ I guess that having planets on the 8th house doesn't really mean that your life will be full of drama/tragedy, but it will sure bring you into deep issues of life still.

I guess that 8th house also teaches us to appreciate what we have, yet also to be able to let go and go on after a loss.

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posted May 04, 2008 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((Lara)))

My Mom was a tough cookie growing up...very closed emotionally and a bit manipulative. (Her sun and my brother's sun conj my 8th Moon in Gemini).

A spiritual "event" took place that transformed us both and we were best friends from then on. This was when I was in my mid twenties. She did pass away at a young age (61) of Cancer...so that sad part of the 8th is true in my case.

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posted May 04, 2008 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How sad, 8th.. i'm sorry. I am happy that you healed the rift though. My mother will, l fear pass away without us settling our differences

It's sad cos she is all aquarian and aquarius is my 7th house ruler.

I have such a crazy 8th house though.. all l have had is lesson after lesson after lesson. It's so draining !

I'm posting my chart so you see exactly what l mean! LOL

Nuts huh? :O

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posted May 04, 2008 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy 8th House, Woman!

We seem to have "conjunctivitis!"

My Venus is conj your moon (3 deg)
Your Venus, North Node, and Saturn are conj my DC (0/3 Deg)
Your Sun and Merc are conj my North Node and progressed sun (1 deg)
Your Chiron is conj my Saturn (0 deg)
Your MC/Mars/BML are conj my Vertex
Your Vesta is conj my sun/Chiron/Saturn (1-3 deg)

I see you're a Taurus, so Happy Birthday, whenever it may be!

I hope your 8th house gives you some rewards this year, minus the painful transformations!!!

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posted May 05, 2008 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Thanks 8th

WOW so many conjunctions between us! How interesting...

My birthday was on 26th April and thanks. I hope the transformations are good to me too.

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My mom has a scorpio moon in 8th house. She is very emotional, intense and always creates conflict. Her mom was very cold, distant, had troubles and ended up killing herself. Obviously my mom has many issues with her mom.
I know a guy with a saggitarious moon in the 8th and has a bad relationship with his mom. She is also cold, not affectionate, doesn't seem to be very caring. He is very sensitive and suffers a lot, but doesn't show it really.
I know a third person with aquarius moon in 8th and has a difficult relationship with her mom who is very controlling and dominating.
My conclusion is that 8th house moons have very difficult relationships with the mother.

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laaaaaaaaara yuhi! nice u posted ur chart, u do have a really loaded 8th house! Yet it is amazing because ur aspects look similar to mine in the sun and moon dept, ur sun is rather unaspected which apparently means males/the male figure/what it represents doesnt play that much a role, yet strongly aspected moons point to the opposite.

Agree, a heavily aspected or afflicted moon does point to trouble with the mother, certainly in my case...

Yet was wondering if any of u has their moon fairly at the end of the 8th house, i have always had trouble with that as i cant really discern where it falls....... i like the occult (8th) but am also very fond of travelling and studying(9th), so am a bit lost there.........

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My moon/NN midpoint and moon/saturn midpoint is exact my venus too... wonder what that means?

Anyone wanna swap my 8th house with something less intense? lol

Winky - interesting cos l always have men in my life. They are like coat tails... l could have a different man every week if l wanted (but l don't). I'm only into long term, faithful types.
My moon is 4/5 deg from my 9th house and actually all my men have been foreign!

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