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Secret Garden
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posted May 05, 2005 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone,

i dont know if this is jus me being paranoid, or if its really true, but im really suspecting , even to the point of being absolutely certain, that my best friend is jealous of me /resents me.

First im jus gonna share a few instances of why i think that... then ill post her chart and it would be great if any of u guys had any input?

the first thing that bothers me is that she is getting so pompous. she constantly flaunts her boyfriend in my face, 'oh he wants to buy me tiffanys for my birthday! *giggle giggle* i keep telling him no but....wow i guess , i dont know why he wants to do that? do u have any idea why?' it makes me want to tear her eyes out seriously. and when i was havin probs with this aqua of mine, she kept saying stuff like, 'you dont handle men right! u cant keep doing this....u get into online relationships THEN meet ppl....you arent talking to them right...' etc. making me feel like a total failure in relationships. now she may not have meant it that way but thats sure how it came out, and sounded, to me.

second, when i got this awesome job that totally made it for me career-wise, i called her up i was so excited, she goes like, 'oh kool', no excitement at all. then about 3 months later she calls me up telling me that she got an accounting job she really wanted, and shes like screaming with excitement. i was super happy for her, but then some things she said sent off alarms in my head, like 'now we both have cool jobs, isnt that awesome',

(does it sound like shes comparing herself to me??),

and 'now i can buy career clothes too when we go to the mall', (sounds a bit jealous).

when her other friends take a liking to me or compliment me i think she feels a little bit uncomfortable.

and then she tends to advise me regarding men like i dont know anything really. i mean if i need advice, ill ask for it....she forgets that ive been married and she hasnt been there or done that...so my situation IS different from hers.

she didnt used to react like this, but ive noticed for the past six or so months she has started doing little things like these. and i know she gossips about all her other friends with me. what she doesnt like in them, so i know she probably has these thots about me too.

this post is getting really long so continue it later:

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Secret Garden
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posted May 05, 2005 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
she says things about her friends like, i really dont like this and that about so and so. and i dont like a lot of her other friends personally so i dont hang out with them. she then says to me, 'ur too rigid, even if u dont ppl u should still be willing to be their friend.'

i say in return, 'look i dont judge them but i DO get to choose whos my friend and not. friends are a big deal for me, not just anyone who i hang with'. etc.

her body language is totally changed recently. she never seems excited or happy for me.

personally i think she liked that i was a 'step below' her in relationships and didnt have an awesome job. then i got with my aqua and got this job and now shes completely changed. i mean , just her FACIAL expressions are radically different. even once when her friends were like , to me 'wow ur bf is like the cutest guy we've seen in a LONG time!' she was quiet and said 'well mine is cute too!'
*sounds mighty fishy to me...*

anyways, my scorp moon is telling me strongly that something is going on and im not paranoid. but cant go ahead without consulting someone about it....

first of all, do you guys think there is really a problem? or am i being paranoid and assuming too much? or even, is there a problem with me instead of her?

second, if my suspicions are true....then how should i handle it? i have a lot of dirt on her and she really doesnt have much on me, so theres no problems about it getting ugly. however, in general i am not very confrontational. i have kept all this inside me for the past few months, and not discussed it with anyone.... coz i didnt want to be gossipping, and coz i thot it would go away or i was being silly....

i think i would rather back off from her slowly....keep my distance, instead of confronting. she is smart enough to get the point.

heres her chart:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Gemini 10°12'16 08 direct
Moon Gemini 20°00'19 08 direct
Mercury Taurus 18°08'05 07 direct
Venus Gemini 06°00'24 08 direct
Mars Scorpio 14°12'33 01 retrograde
Jupiter Capricorn 11°26'37 03 retrograde
Saturn Scorpio 11°05'46 01 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 11°37'29 02 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 00°35'35 03 retrograde
Pluto Libra 29°43'00 12/1 retrograde
Pluto is technically near the end of house 12 and is interpreted in house 1.
True Node Gemini 06°35'58 08 retrograde


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Secret Garden
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posted May 05, 2005 08:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not sure of her birthtime, but heres my GUESSTIMATE (not exactly accurate) about her house placements and the rest of her chart:

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 00°55'47
2nd House Scorpio 29°59'21
3rd House Capricorn 00°28'49
Imum Coeli Aquarius 02°12'03
5th House Pisces 04°10'24
6th House Aries 04°16'54
Descendant Taurus 00°55'47
8th House Taurus 29°59'21
9th House Cancer 00°28'49
Medium Coeli Leo 02°12'03
11th House Virgo 04°10'24
12th House Libra 04°16'54


**In any case, the aspects are still valid (except ones to AC, DC, MC, IC): **

Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Venus 4°12
Sun Quincunx Jupiter 1°14
Sun Quincunx Saturn 0°54
Sun Opposition Uranus 1°25
Mercury Opposition Mars 3°56
Venus Opposition Uranus 5°37
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°46
Mars Conjunction Saturn 3°07
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 0°21
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°53
Neptune Sextile Ascendant 0°20
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 1°13


Any observations, or things that pop out?

Love
SG

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scorpiongal
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posted May 06, 2005 02:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret Garden :

First I would try to understand why she is doing this.

She is completely jealous of you or maybe she had a past expereince where she got really bullied.

I would say that she is having inferior complex and well maybe you also can't be sure that in the past you have been a little show off...well unknowingly.( It has happened to me,people just getting jealous when I don't even try to do anything to make them jealous.)

I think what I do when my friends don't get any compliments and I get.I share them or try to under play so that they don't feel that I am taking their spotlight.Sometimes I do this things just to make that person happy and so that there is no jealousy.

If you used to talk to your friend about all the problems you had and now if you are talking about all the exciting things maybe she would start seeing herself and get disapponted.

Other than that if she told you that you don't know how to handle man maybe she wants to also see you successful in your relationship or maybe still want to share your sorrows.

I would say part of this sounds that you are taking it little personally too and trying to understand her hiden motives... well I won't say you are getting paranoid...scorpio moon thing... I guess

If I were you I would do something like this.

Don't tell her what she did in the past or what you did in the past because there where it would get really ugly and she would start accussing of things maybe you had never done.

Just try to explain her that you aren't up for the comparison and don't say that she was comparing.In extra nice friendly manner try to explain her that you don't care about her status related to job or boyfriend.You would never compare with another person especially a friend.Your and her friendship is more than each other status and compliments somebody get.

Sometimes people are bad to you be extra good and explain your point.Don't make it ugly by accusing her. If she understands what you wanted good for her if she doesn't keep your distnce or atleast ignore her comments which make you feel that they are just coming because she is getting jealous.

We all know good friends stay in happiness and sorrow.Now a days some friends are there only in happiness and some only during sorrows.I have same kind of friend and I just talk to her when I am really sad not when I am happy.Irony...

GAL

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cancerrg
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posted May 06, 2005 05:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the way u have interpreted it , it means she has a inferiority complex and s-gal is right to say , u might have unknowingly made her feel so , remember u say you are extrovert and ambitious . so it has a strong chnce that she feels inferior
i would suggest , u better try to check her intentions and do u have any benefit staying with her , then talk stright . if she understands ok , nahi to dheere dheere , walk out of it . i usually dont want to give someone a chance to say that i ditched him because with all goodfriends there are some good memories ,so see to it that u dont have face a situation where u have to ignore her . just try not to create such a situation , it really is the worst thing that can happen among best friends . jo bhi karo aaram se , because loosing the best friend is not very done thing . give her ample cance before u put the the end board. ok.
best of luck.

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Secret Garden
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posted May 06, 2005 08:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks cancerrg, i will try,

i am trying to be nicer and nicer to her, and not share any of my newer secrets, or newer developments about my love life/ career etc. with her.

i dont want to make her jealous,

and i thot alot about it, even if she is so, i dont feel she is rightfully so, but i am biased of course and maybe i did make her feel bad in the past, knowingly or unknowingly, we are all human and err, just like i may have, she may have also,

im going to try to be the bigger person here, and just make the friendship lighter in nature....less emotional drama leads to less emotional trauma , and let her know i am always here for her. she always tells me what happens between herself and her bf anyhow, but i wont share as much, slowly, back away in that aspect,

hope it works out for the best,

Love
SG

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zoso
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posted May 06, 2005 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You deserve a friend who will be happy for you when things are going good (because she loves you) and who is sympathetic and strong for you when things aren't going so well.

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cancerrg
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posted May 07, 2005 02:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
less emotional drama leads to less emotional trauma .
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sg :: thats why i told u , u look smart , u understood what i wanted to tell u .
actually i am also going through a similar situation but here the guy is a cap , there were no problemswith me but someone else ( that guy was no friend of mine either) but its just that i have lost the faith and he knows some of my family secrets that i dont really share with anyone except a few .so i just had feeling if he divulged it , it would be a problem( he had used that cappy tactic with that guy, though i am sure he wont do anything stright with me because he doesn't have the guts to touch me but then why createe a nasty scence) , thats why slowly and slowly i am chaning my tracks ( he is in the new pics that i have posted) i dont want to do it outright , that way he will have a chance to b!tch and why give him chance right!
well i know ur smarter than i am and will handle the thinmgs well.

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cancerrg
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posted May 07, 2005 02:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am trying to be nicer and nicer to her
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i dont think that really is needed, just be normal , it would be better and after a point show subtly that u are avoiding her , bas simple(LOL)

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astro junkie
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posted May 11, 2005 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She seems more insecure than anything, but I feel sorry for her. I bet you anything she wishes she wasn't such a blabber mouth. Her Gemini influences makes her test, test, test ... but her Scorpio influences wishes she'd just calm down for enough time to see what's really going on around her.

I think she's a compulsive talker, and in order to get past her insecurities, she's gotta know them herself, and I don't think she knows yet. Gemini's take a long time to mature.

Her Jupiter in Capricorn (like mine) sucks the optimism out of her. Mars in Scorpio & Mercury in Taurus makes her comes across that much forceful and "sure" of herself, although she's not. Those with Saturn in Scorpio have struggles with insecurity and feel the compulsion to control what's going on around them.

She needs a good spanking, maybe from a Scorpio or Taurus, believe it or not. Anyone else will just give her lip service, unable to see any deeper into her, and/or, unsure what to do about it.

Think of her more as a runaway train heading down tracks she did not choose in the first place, with no clue how she got there in the first place. Remember, she's struggling with her Natal Chart!!! She's doing one thing, and immediately wishes she was doing something different.

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cancerrg
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posted May 13, 2005 02:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think of her more as a runaway train heading down tracks she did not choose in the first place, with no clue how she got there in the first place. Remember, she's struggling with her Natal Chart!!! She's doing one thing, and immediately wishes she was doing something different.

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aj: want us to empathise with her?

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astro junkie
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posted May 14, 2005 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, to empathize is what we should ALL be doing for each other! She's got her challenges, and she's got that Mars in Scorpio like me too, so she's probably TRYING. Unless her Mars is in a very early Degree, (like mine), which can at times put a damper on choosing one's direction, as well as hampering motivation at times, lacking in action. She may be one of those people who (like me) is struggling MOST of the time, and when she feels those rare moments of harmony, really needs to enjoy it "while it lasts" - why? What are you thinking?

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cancerrg
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posted May 16, 2005 04:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, i wasn't thinking something great but just this that only the natal chart that we are born with is not important ,something as important is how we can change ourselves or how we do the things !

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CharmedForever2431
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posted May 17, 2005 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Secret Garden about what may be going on with your best friend. Believe me I am going through the same b******* with my own close friend(she should start writing a f***ing autobiography on how the whole world hates her..yada, yada, yada) and I finally let her know about it through email last week. Therefore, I saw that she already recieved the email through the status section, whatsoever, and never repsonded. Oh well life sucks then you die j/k.

Who wants to put up with jealous, resentful, and selfish F**** who can't prove anything to themselves and others then take it out on you. If I were you I say to dump her jealous a** once and for all. You deserve better. Thats my opinion on all this. Take care

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astro junkie
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posted May 20, 2005 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CharmedForever2431 -

When you learn the tools to deal with such behavior, please do share it with your f*****d up friend!

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CharmedForever2431
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posted May 20, 2005 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks for the advice. I did expressed how I felt about her behavior but she didn't take it to well. But I did wish her the best of luck at the end of that email. It was best for the 2 of us to split and we must be careful on who we choose as a friend.

Who needs to live life with someone who gives you alot of grief. I don't put up with anyones s*** whatsoever.

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astro junkie
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posted June 01, 2005 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like you made the right decision.

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