posted May 08, 2005 02:21 PM              

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I say Pluto wins.

Even though in Relationship Signs Linda says that its a draw. I still think that Pluto will come out the victor just because IMO Pluto is 10x badder than Mars.
...But maybe that's because tough transits from Pluto have always royally kicked my a$$ far FAR worse than Mars ever has.

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posted May 08, 2005 06:50 PM              

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I consider Pluto to be the strongest..
Mars is sorta superficial..
And after all,Pluto was the King of the Underworld

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posted May 08, 2005 09:32 PM            

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Hmmmmm....Pluto and Mars...I accept what Ms. Goodman says...it is a draw...and it is evil when it comes to trying to find out.

I am very Plutonian..with Pluto conjunct my Ascendant in the 1st house and my Sun's ruler, Jupiter, in Scorpio (my 7th house Ruler - Neptune is also in Scorpio. My Fiance is a Bull...he has Mars in Pisces opposing my Pluto. When our anger flares up..it is better for us to be away from each other as we can both bring out the worst in a fight. Even with my Sun / Venus conjuncting his Neptune and our other soft aspects..that Mars / Pluto problem is a killer.

It is better NOT to mess with that energy NOR try to test it..because you will BOTH lose.

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posted May 09, 2005 01:01 PM              

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Here's the situation as to why I started this thread ~ I have an exact Square aspect involving these planets with someone who is a friend, yet there is this underlying competition between us. I am the Pluto person and she is the Mars person. We are cordial toward each other, having never actually fought, or even said an unkind word to each other. Our Mercurys trine exactly, so maybe that helps with the communication part. But I am still very aware of a mental and emotional war between us underneath the cordial surface relationship, and it really sucks.
Interestingly, the two of us also share another exact Mars-Pluto aspect. Only she is the Pluto person Sextiling my Mars exactly. So she and I have this double dose of powerful exact Mars-Pluto energy going on, and I'm kind of worried about how it may manifest.

So I want to know:
Does anyone else have an aspect, specifically a hard aspect (square or opposition) with friends? And how did it play out? Did it ultimately destroy the friendship?

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posted May 09, 2005 02:47 PM              

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posted May 11, 2005 11:45 AM              

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Mars wins the battle, Pluto wins the war? I think someone here said that once, it it may be true. Mars wins in shortterm, Pluto in the longrun.

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posted May 11, 2005 03:47 PM              

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Try two people with Mars square Pluto, what a challenge. I have Mars square Pluto and yes I would say Pluto wins,

I have more Mars aspects and I would rather lose than go on arguing,
Like the song says, I know I'm losing when I'm winning again!

Natasha

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posted May 11, 2005 04:23 PM              

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What if it's a double cross aspect? Is it a tie?

I have Mars conjunct his Pluto, Sun, Saturn (Libra)
He has Mars conjunct my Pluto, Sun, Merc, Sat (Scorp)

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posted May 11, 2005 11:30 PM              

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I think scorpbaby, that he must be very attracted to you, are there sparks honestly?

Natasha

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posted May 12, 2005 12:21 AM              

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Hi Natasha,
Yes there are a lot of sparks, it's almost too much, and I think that is why I've shyed away from him so much. There's a lot of intensity and sexual chemistry, but also genuine affection. Even thought the attraction is strong we both are very stubborn, and we bring this out of eachother. Its always a face off, and neither of us wants to back down. But with just a display of affection it seems that a lot is forgiven and forgotten.

I just saw that you replied back to me a while ago in soul unions about the Libra I've been talking about. My computer had been broken for almost a month so I didn't get to read it and I just came across it now. But thankyou for your words.

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