posted May 16, 2005 07:18 PM              

Thanks, looking for anything positive,
the good news is that my Saturn is sextile the Sun,

posted May 17, 2005 01:25 PM              

Can't comment on progressions, but transiting Saturn square natal Moon/Pluto conj. was devastating experience.

I completely lost my safety-net of people who were closest to me and I had to mange in complete isolation and handle emotional deprivation and loneliness. When the dust had settled and I finally crawled out from depression, the outcome was way more emotionally stronger me. Much better with boundaries and solid inner structure. Wonderful sense that I'm free to move without strings or without extra baggage. Not easy to learn for 12th hs Moon.

Strenght to you & lots of light.

posted May 17, 2005 09:05 PM              

Can anyone guess if this is similar to Moon in Capricorn? What is the difference between Saturn trine Moon and Saturn opposite Moon really? How do each feel, is there a difference? Saturn trine Moon seems shy to me too,

posted May 17, 2005 10:12 PM              

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Moon square Saturn

This is perhaps the most powerful single aspect you can have in a horoscope. It gives both ambition and the ability to concentrate on it. You are serious-minded, at times changing to moody, depressed, and dejected; but as you grow older an early tendency to fall into the doldrums gradually disappears as your mind becomes organized into a smooth-running unit driving always toward a well-defined goal. Whatever your physical energy may or may not be, your mental and psychic energy is high and well directed. You do not waste yourself in profitless ventures or very much in nerves, anger, or displays of tempermant; tese belonged to your early years, and you learned as you grew older the futility and waste which such displays involve. Your greatest asset is your ability to learn by experience, for though you have made many, and probably great, mistakes, your self-knowledge is your salvation, At the bottom of the pit of depression or despair or error, you are able to look yourself squarley in the face and start building your way back to where you want to be. You have an inner drive and a sense of your own worth amounting almost to a neurosis, which you are able to express on the constructive side. Psychologically this marks you as somehow extraordinarily influenced by one or both parents. Thus, in whatever field you choose to operate- business, the professions, or the arts- you have the jump on competitors who are not assisted by the mental energy and the psychological drive of this aspect. Although determined and apparently ardent in emotional matters, you are capable of being pretty cold when it suits your purposes. Nothing personal is allowed to interfere with the main stream of your intentions once youth is past and your purposes are set. Prior to this, in youth, this aspect gives a hectic emotional life, and you may be the despair of yourself and your friends and relatives. Through excessive independence you hurt your parents; through erratic action, your sweethearts. But as you mature, these tempermental qualities fall away. What has happened goes deeply into your consciousness; and your fund of experience, falling under the scrutiny of an analytical mentality, contributes to that knowledge of the world, of people, and of yourself which becomes the cornerstone of your success. If your horoscope has a negative (non-executive) combination of the Sun and Moon and shows none of the other major aspects, then this aspect may lead merely to depression of the spirits, dejection, and a sense of frustration. But the power of it is so great that with any encouragement from any other aspect, it will produce success along some line or other. Its genius varies according to other indications as follows:

If with Sun conjunction Jupiter, Sun trine Jupiter, Sun square Jupiter, or Mercury trine Saturn, business;

Sun conjunction Mars or Sun trine Mars, military, government, political;

Sun square Saturn, business or government;

Mars conjunction Jupiter, financial (if also with Mars conjunction Neptune, highly creative);

Mercury conjunction Venus, Mercury conjunction Neptune, or Mercury trine Venus, creative, dramatic, poetic.

If with Moon conjunction Jupiter, Moon trine Jupiter, Mercury conjunction Jupiter, or Mercury conjunction Saturn, legal, judicial;

Mercury conjunction Mars or Mercury conjunction Saturn scientific, analytic;

Mercury conjunction Uranus, creative-critical; scientific or artisitic; versatile.

This is a more powerful position in a male than in a female horoscope, though in either case its significance is marked. The psychological bias is toward the mother and thus operates more constructively in men than in women. In men this aspect tends to some unhappiness in marriage, less the fault of the wife (who usually proves an admirable balance wheel) than of the psychological complexity of the man. Maturity brings more happiness, as this aspect steadies down. In women, in addition to producing the admirable mental qualities indicated, it may also tend to poor health, self-pity, and, in extreme cases hypochondria.

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posted May 19, 2005 12:08 AM              

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What is the difference between Saturn trine Moon and Saturn opposite Moon really? How do each feel, is there a difference?

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I would really like to know about this too.

I don’t fully understand the implications of having a Saturn opposite Moon. I know this has something to do with my relationship with my mother, which is non-existent. I guess we never connected, even from birth. I don't know her even though her physical presence was always there.

posted May 19, 2005 12:16 AM              

but i have natal moon conjunct natal saturn, is there a particular connection between that and the square/opposition aspects? because my natal interpretation reads along the lines of this also being a bad aspect, one that brings seriousness, gloom, depression, and resentment towards ones mother (thats what ive read in various places). however ive also read that it gives the person (me) a STEEL discipline and a guaranteed path to success because these people tend to be hardest on themselves. (thats all true for me, how about the rest of you all?)

do you guys have any info on the conjunct, or do you think it would have any similar affects?

posted May 19, 2005 12:21 AM              

I have a question for you...

posted May 19, 2005 04:26 AM              

When I was a kid my parents fought like crazy all the time, my mom made megabucks and tried her best to give us her time (housewife for seven years and spent like crazy on us even sold her jewelry to get us what we wanted).

Then when i was 13 my parents got divorced and since then, my mom has been single and working and supporting us. Shes turned into this depressed, maniacal person who has to have their way otherwise they go into depression and throw fits. ITs been more than seven yrs now even and instead of building mutual support, so we could all get through the divorce together, I felt she drained my emotional energy. She made these strict rules and regulations that I could never follow (no mingling with boys no boy friends, curfew was 6 pm, this and that), that made me resentful of her. Then she hit me a couple of times and pressured me into marriage , an arranged marriage that was more of a deranged marriage and failed completely. I was divorced at the age of 18.5, and me and my mom were driven farther apart than anything

even now she releases all her frustrations and yells at me because everyone else (my bro and sis) left her. I am the only one who supports her and puts up with her , although for my own sanity it would be better if i packed my stuff and left. but i didnt i stayed with her, although it drives me crazy every day, still she fails to see the good in me. Every day its whine whine whine nag nag nag, you need to lose weight you need to get married you dont care about me no one cares about me, why did i ever have children why wasi born etc.

Pain in the

yeah

posted May 19, 2005 06:03 PM              

We always attract what we need, so I imagine I will meet a lot of trines and conjuncts, this year. I work p/t in a cemetary right now, and I actually find it peaceful. I don't think the trine or conjunct would find that peaceful, I think it's more into getting away from that, needing to be in the spotlight more, and working out front, but right now I prefer to be behind the scenes.

My ex b/f has the trine and he has to know everything that is happening around him, I am driving him nuts right now as he has no idea where I live or work anymore, and I do not want to buy into this idea that I must be seen and account for my actions to anyone.