posted June 20, 2005 02:03 PM              

.. couple of links related to calculating TIME ..
.. daylight saving ... dates ... time zones ...
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/bst.htm

posted June 21, 2005 08:45 PM              

ive known this guy since i was a kid, and hes always loved me, and we've both known that,

he is an aries (my venus is in aries), with gemini moon (my sun gemi, and mars too), and he has a lotta air in his chart.

he proposed to me twice in the past that was when he loved me only and i was not with him and he got turned down both times .

he has only been with one girl in his life , that was for five yrs, it seems strange from his chart which is almost all fire and air, but its true, and hes not at all promiscuous. in fact hes deeply, deeply religious

our religion is the same and we do connect on many levels, but our culture is diff....language etc. we're trying to overcome those barriers (i am learning his language, he is trying to move to where i am and switch jobs) . there are a lotta probs but we get along great and have for yrs, and we will have a LOT of family opposition to face if we decide to get married, which i know is on his mind but i am trying to take it slow as we've just gotten together officially about a month back!

if you could take a look at his chart, our our composite? i dont want to see if this relationship is 'doomed', coz i dont think i believe a relationship can be doomed simply coz of astrology, but i want to see what its strengths and weaknesses are? do u see the connection in our charts? does it seem to be a long term connection?

my birth data u already have i believe, its 1 June 1985 in Hollywood CA at 2:45 pm

his is 31 March 1982 in Cairo, Egypt, im not sure of the time, but he seems like a leo or cancer rising? if you want i could post a pic of him and u could try to guess. hehehe but i really dont know his time. take a stab at any time u feel, i think id be more interested in the planetary aspects and stuff than the houses becoz its not going to be accurate anyways (dont have his birthtime! )

thanks so much HD, i would really appreciate it,

posted June 21, 2005 09:58 PM              

***oh HD ive been looking for u,*** ( ohhhhhh .. yeah .. ;-)
ain't too hard to find Again .. worse comes to worse .. be an 'e' adrs
in my profile .. i only eliminate folk who send me spam mail .. :-))

.. mmmm .. wonder what the apple of yer eye would think of
an israeli astrolger messing with his data ........
.. sorta wondered about starting a mid east thread re: the astrology
behind it .. .. ..

yeah .. will check it out .. 'n reread what u've wrote .. sounds nice ..
except for the religious culture bit .. ( thats just me sayin that .. not judging or nothing .. when it comes to religion .. i be out the back door in a hurry .. like one song writer wrote .. '.. how many people have died in the name of christ?')

but in the meanwhile .
SecretGardenAgain .. 'n 26Taur .. et al ..
have some music .. ( about 3 to 4 meg each )

... todays menu .. ... cw/bluegrass flavour

Willie Nelson 'n Waylon Jennings .. 'good hearted woman' .. live http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/goodhw.mp3

commander cody .. 'hot rod lincoln' ... http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/hrlncn.mp3

jerry douglas plays 'hey joe' on dobro and mandolin .. http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/jdhyjo.mp3

steve earl .. sounds like someone went toooooo far on bolivian marching powder ...
... and the 'engineers just don't care' ... sounds familiar somehow .. http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/rails.mp3

posted June 22, 2005 01:23 AM              

i dont hold animosities from religion but i am v spiritual in terms of religion and so is he, and understand each other well on that plane. i always thot 'v religious' was a scary thing. but i was wrong coz i was looking at people advancing nonreligious agendas with the false label of 'religion'. now that ive met someone who has the same spirituality and love for god, love for mankind that i have, i am not scared of the word religion anymore.

again i give and take of all things, honestly i like ur interpretations but i dont take all things away from them. i read every interpretation that comes my way then i see what seems right, i filter out what i think i need.

hd it wud be interesting to see u i think. are u in the LL photoshop? i think itd be interesting to chat

posted June 23, 2005 10:33 PM            

You ARE a shameless hussy - LOL!! (J/K) Here's something from Dragon-Man for now -- he's working on a project and said he won't be around for a few days.....

".. yeah, SG .. she has at moment 3 Big type transits close to exact orb ..
reoccuring for second 'hit' .. Chiron square Pluto .. Uranus square Sun ..
and now Saturn square Venus .. so i must take into account how she might be
feeling .. e.g does she feel in anyway 'romanticly unwanted' .. and therefore
seeking a solution .. its the Sat/Ven transit .. she could feel under pressure to make a hasty decision
.. feel free to pass that on to her ..

but .. yeah interesting that she be visting israel .. so when i do reply would like to type a bit on that subject .. i'm 100% sure that SG will probably get a real 'buzz' when she visits the city of Jerusalem .. that place has an incredible 'feel' to it .. very spiritual .. religious or not .. one feels like one is in a very special place when there ..

i suppose meanwhile i could paste a mug shot of me in israel .. civi clothes .."

So anyway Secret, Madame Z would like to have a look at your young suitor to do some Ascendent-guessing, were you able to get a pic posted?

posted June 24, 2005 12:13 AM              

( just read yer post 'Z .. cheers .. been tooo hot here in day .. so took advantage of the dark hours .. my favourite timezone ;-))

S.GARDEN agggain ...

****hd, ur right about the israeli bit, but none of us 2 are biased,****
well .. if all the folk were unbiased in that part of the world .. i beleive .. it could be a paradise on earth .. that is the saddest bit about the conflict .. well its the thing that made the strongest impression on me ..i wasn't born there .. lived there for about 10 yrs .. .. to be honest .. not quite sure why i mentioned it in the first place

**** in fact i have an israeli prof and a friend , and they the professor calls me his darling, he says hes in love with my brain**** .. .. a chat up line traditionaly used by israeli professors .. .. regardless of age or morality .. .. or maybe he's a Steve Martin fan .. :-))

ok .. the astrology stuff .. just a couple of notes for now .. because my comp. is a 'work' tool for me .. and at moment it be in 'project time' .. so any astro stuff has to be done in comp.free time .... and maybe .. if it be ok with you .. i shall post the chart pics .. 'cause what i won't see re the relationship aspect .. others here may .. and post some feedback for you ..

YOU have 4 major 'outer planetary' transits on at moment by Chiron / Neptune / Uranus and Saturn
one of your current 'outer transits' .. that of Saturn squaring your natal Venus ... MAY have you feeling somewhat unloved .. you might have experienced what u perceived to be rejection .. you just might feel like reaching out for a relationship to make up for those feelings .. .. if that makes any sense .. I do not know if that be the case with yourself .. but must mention it in light of that transit to your natal Venus ... re check on Saturn's movements .. dot dash zdot dot ....

OK .. I wont redit that BUT THAT TRANSIT IS MOVING OFF .. IS OUT OF THE WAY .. but if u want to think back on that .. so as to maybe understand by reflection somewhat .. it mainly occured Oct '04 ... Dec 04 .. and again peaked on the 18th of this month ( june 05 )

For now will post a GRID of YOUR current transits .. IF u don't understand how to read it .. post a note to that effect .. but in main if u count 8 from bottom right .. that is the symbol for Uranus (transiting) .. follow that column up till it connects to the row of your Sun ( top right ) .. you will see a square symbol with some numbers ( 0.38) .. the numbers represent the degree/minutes of orb .. of the transit aspect .. ( minutes are a subdivision of degrees .. 60 min to 1 deg )
the smaller the orb .. the stronger the effect .. .,. .. also .. the futher away the planet is .. it is normaly the case that the orb of influence ( in degrees ) .. be wider and stronger .. .. .. also the very outer planets .. by transit .. often have a 'backdrop' influence .. and be felt in the short term thru the shorter more frequent transits of moon/merc/ven/mars ..

.. check the Chiron and Neptune columns as well to see what natal planets they are aspecting ......

ok .. you freinds chart .. have done it but not realy checked it out as yet ... .. He has been having by transit Sat square natal Pluto .. time wise coinciding with your Sat to natal Venus transit ( conclusion .. your venus and his pluto be cojunct or opposite in the synastry .. .. )

currently in the mid term ( a few weeks ) .. i would say that his 'romantic' drives be pretty strong .. his libido on the rise as it were .. his passions aroused .. ( there are a couple of short term transits ,, plus a jup transit to his mars ) ...
he will be dealing with a Pluto transit ( and has been ) untill 2008 .. which will effect his Merc square Neptune natal aspect ..

ok the composite chart transits for now .. ( as in i've not had time to look at details ) ...
.. it may the relationship has a bit of a hurdle/challenge to get thru .. a test if u like ( well it's Saturn again .. but don't be blue ... ) but untill July 2006 .. transiting Saturn will be squaring composite Pluto then composite Saturn .. after which it wiil continue on to square composite Sun ..
during the same time period .. transiting chiron will square composite Pluto then composite Saturn ..

Uranus by transit will conjoin composite Venus in 2009 .. with Chiron starting to square composite Chiron ..

Secret .. they just be the main 'challenging' aspects i can see for now .. time wise I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ANY OTHER ASPECT TYPES or any other potential energies as in signs .. elements etc etc .. i should check your progressions .. remind me ..
... understand that many relationships start when one or both parties are influenced by major transits .. these types of transits to the natal and/or composite are often felt as a crisis .. i think the word crisis comes from the greek word for 'decision' .. so often ppl can feel under pressure to make some big decision / choice in their lives ...

AND just be aware that that the above type aspects will effect most ppl and relationships at some time or another ..
the outer transits are sometimes refered to as 'Cycles of Growth' ...

what i have noted above does not mean anything .. one way or another ... as to whether the relationship will work/or not .. that could depend how both of you deal with any challenges put forward by Saturn .. it may come in the form of an oportunity type 'test' .. it may come in the form of opposition from your respective families .. i canna realy say ..
.. with Chiron involved there may be some 'wounding and healing' to go thru ( i.e. for the composite 'relationship' chart )

as to compatibility thru astrology i.e. the signs / placements / synastry etc .. i don't know much about it .. and i think the couple involved would know how or how not they might get along ... ... i mean in this case youv'e known the guy for a long time .. so you don't need astrology to tell you about that .. but for one reason or another .. u have said no twice in the past .. to a serious type commitment to him .. i.e. marriage ( dddddon't rush it ... )

BTW: ... i gotta tell ya .. i don't listen to my own advice when it comes to relationship stuff in astrology .. i basicly go by what my heart sais ( or dictates .. mmmmm ..) .. i may look at the astrology and make a detached observation .. but take any heed .. not realy ( ha .. Venus in Aries takes heed .. never .. just doesn't want to .. its ' chaaaarge .. full steam ahead ) .. i mean i once 'steamed' in .. fully knowing i was under a tPluto opposite natal Mars transit for about 2 years .. i could just have easly walked away .. but Pluto facinates and draws one in .. and potentialy down .. to the abyss ..
.. but i did know the potential behind that transit .. but realy chose to ignore the risks .. and if i weren't quite sure about said transit .. after it had passed i can assure you i had learnt one big painful astrology lesson .. that shall not be forgotten .. but i do not regret the experience as much life knowledge was gained ..

i would suggest for now .. think LOTS prior to making any major romantic commitments .. but realy .. any relationship astrology ( or other type ) type advice .. i would leave up to other KnowFlakes with experience ..

ok it be late ( 04:30 gmt ) 'n cant write no more for now ... shall post this with Your natal Transit grid thingy .. date be on pic ..
***again i give and take of all things, honestly i like ur interpretations but i dont take all things away from them. i read every interpretation that comes my way then i see what seems right, i filter out what i think i need. ***** Those on my website are only superficial guides of an old astrology computer programme .. personaly i have never come accross a 'transit explanation' or aspect 'explanation' that has hit the nail squarly on the head .. they are just guides ..
be what i do .. filter out what ain't relevant.. and ones reaction to the Big type transits does change in time .. i've just had a few years of so called 'heavies' and under a Sat to Sat square for sometime .. it's just meant getting down to some extensive work for a while .. however the Chiron transit was a bit of an emmotional nightmare ..

*****hd it wud be interesting to see u i think. are u in the LL photoshop? i think itd be interesting to chat*****
ummmmmmm ..
i be very very camera shy .. and to be honest have no pics more recent that 1993 .. however i have made a commitment to freinds and family to supply them with a recent mug shot .. actualy took new camera out of box .. after 5 year .. just figured it has a self timer .. so i guess i've no more excuses .. except i gotta sort my hair out y'see :-)) .. it's a little decision that may get drawn out a few months for my own convenience .. on the other hand ..

.. ok .. i'm realy not one to post pics of moi .. but curiosity rules with Gemini so ... under your transit grid pic will post a couple of pics from israel ( 1983) .. 'n maybe one from ..... mmmmm ...zog ?? ( 1993) .. be aware that they are likely to vanish off the originating server at any time .. i actualy not be tooo comfortable with my pics on public veiw ... :-))

... Oh .. and good to hear u both feel the same on the religion subject .. i am SURE you wiil LOVE Jerusalem when you visit .. it be a very special place .. you will feel the spiritual vibe .. of that i have no doubt ..

posted June 25, 2005 02:05 PM              

regarding synastry : .. there is part1 of a chapter on the subject here ..
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/synastry.a.gif

there are a few more pages to scan and upload .. they have the various contacts and a short explanation for them . .. from experience i would say the jupiter/saturn contacts should ensure a long term bond of friendship .. almost regardless of what problems you may face as a couple. It would be a good idea to be aware of and understand the Saturn/Moon square Venus contact .. it does have a rather close orb .

will get the rest of the info uploaded as and when i can ..

posted June 25, 2005 04:22 PM              

you guys are the best. Im about to start a thread inviting all the aries of the world to come talk about how far they would go in love and how loyal they consider themselves. hehe. Although I Have venus in aries and sun in gem (his sun in aries and moon in gem), I feel like I understand him very well, yet I still want to know if I should be prepared about something completely unusual here. For a Gem im not big on surprises or change !

I will take a look at that synastry HD and much love to you

posted June 26, 2005 11:33 AM              

image scans .. ( largest is 318k ) ..

Intro 1 http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/synastry.a.gif

Intro 2 http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.b.jpg

Sun contacts http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.c.jpg

Moon contacts http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.d.jpg

Mercury contacts http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.e.jpg

Intro 3 http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.f.jpg

Venus contacts http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.g.jpg

Mars contacts http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.h.jpg

Contacts with the Outer Planets http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/syn.i.jpg