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Almost An Angel
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posted June 25, 2005 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the following enough to be considered a 'yod'?:

Moon Quincunx Neptune 2'26'
Moon Quincunx Pluto 2'29'

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Azalaksh
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posted June 25, 2005 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AAA ~

My Moon is also the apex of a Moon/Neptune/Pluto Yod -- spooky!!
But the 4th planet (in oppo to apex) is Mars for me, Saturn for you.....and interesting that the Yod for both of us pulls in all four elements. I would allow the orb you state for the quincunxes, although the semi-sextiles of the base should be allowed only a very small orb being minor aspects.....there are different schools of thought on that, dunno what the highest authorities say -- maybe someone else with more astro-savvy will come in here and help!

Here's a good aspects link with brief explanations: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

'Zala

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Almost An Angel
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posted June 26, 2005 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the configuration supposed to mean? I thought the Moon was considered my 'focal' planet? I'm new at major configurations, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about when you start gettin' into the whole Saturn bit.

My Moon's in the 4th house. My Neptune's in th 12th, and Pluto's in the 9th. Saturn's in the 11th (end of the 10th). How's these placements going to effect the formation?

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 26, 2005 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Finger of Fate .. Yod .. is a rare pattern in which two planets in sextile ( 60 deg. ) to one another are both quincunx ( 150 deg. ) to a third. The Yod is reputed to have a quality of fate about it .. in other words .. the planets and houses involved point to a certain direction in life. This is not an easy pattern to work with .. but if the tensions it shows can be resolved .. great achievments are possible. ... end quote ...

almost .. i've got your chart .. 'n will check it out ..

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Azalaksh
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posted June 26, 2005 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon ~

This is from the site link above:

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Also known as the Finger of Fate or the Finger of God, Yod is the name given to two planets in opposition connected to two other planets, one by semi-sextiles and the other by quincunxes. There is a consensus that this pattern is important, but few astrologers make much use of it. The two additional planets provide a choice of paths for the individual to express or discharge the tension of the opposition.
What kind of info do you have on the energies here? There are several more people here at LL with this config so methinks it's not all that rare.....

Very interesting that Angel & I have the same major planets in the config and the same apex!

'Z

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 26, 2005 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I shall have a go at drawing them out .. 'n see what the result is .. and post the pics .. as there are a few oddball configerations ... i mean from reading your description i can't visualize the shape .. so its dragon's drawing board first ..
'till later

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Almost An Angel
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posted June 26, 2005 02:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This should be interesting...

Thanks for your reponses guys!

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 26, 2005 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost.. i had i very quick glance at your chart before .. been rushing about today .. so must recheck this .. and it is by the zodiac deg i've seen in this book ( zala i've yet to check that configuration you wrote about ) ... but it looks to me that Pluto and Neptune are sextile with the Moon and Lillith forming the Point .. in other words that top point to a Yod is halfway between natal Moon and natal Lillith ( which are pretty close to each other ) .. what that might mean i do not know .. but i will recheck and either re-edit this reply or .. post your chart pic

pluto 05.35 scorp / neptune 05.32 cap ... mid moon 03.33 gem / lillith 07.58 gem ...

two others apart from the Yod .. are the 'mystic rectangle' and the 'kite' .. and there are also 'dissociate' patterns ..

..you could try and follow your short term transits and see how you feel when you get a transit energizing those points ..


'till later

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Almost An Angel
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posted June 27, 2005 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD what's a 'Mystic Rectangle' and 'Kite'? They're present in my chart?

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 28, 2005 09:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost ...

**HD what's a 'Mystic Rectangle' and 'Kite'?****
i will do a scan of the page in question .. 'n post it here ( within 48hr )
***They're present in my chart?***
i don't think so .. but when i do the scan .. shall double check .. but they are rare
and depend on minor aspects with narrow orbs of influence ....

bbbbbb'ack later

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Happy Dragon
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posted June 29, 2005 09:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A.Angel

1 .. minor aspect patterns .. 'yod' etc.
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/miasppt.jpg

2 .. minor aspects .. 'disassociation'
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/mas.disa.jpg

2 may be a bit hard to read .. be the nature of the original ( except that it be color with black text ) .. keeping the scans at b/w cuts down on data size ...

'later

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Neptune's Muse
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posted June 29, 2005 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spooky indeed! I have the same YOD. Moon as the apex, Pluto and Neptune, the planet in the middle is Uranus. Moon is part of a stellium (Mars, Venus, Moon) ALL opposing Uranus (lucky me!)

Moon in the 10th, Pluto 3rd, Neptune 5th with Uranus in the 4th!

We are all YOD twins/triplets!

So how does this work for/against us guys?

I am intrigued...

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posted June 29, 2005 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD ~

Thanks for your scans!

NM ~

Where's yours point (apex) ?? My Moon's in the 8th, Angel was yours in the 5th? (don't have your chart handy).....

'Zala

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Neptune's Muse
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posted June 29, 2005 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala, you mean which house? Moon (Apex) in the 10th.

Did I get you right or do you mean something else?

I noticed that T-Squares do not get good reviews, and I just discovered I have some, what's so special about them? What about Cradles?

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posted June 29, 2005 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NM ~

Yep, that's what I was looking for (missed your stellium list above).....your focal point (where all the energies are pointing) is going to be your 10th House, mine's pointing to my 8th. I have some intriguing speculations to share, but am at work, back in a couple hours.....

'Zala

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Neptune's Muse
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posted June 29, 2005 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uh-huh. Looking forward to reading the intriguing speculations....

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posted July 26, 2005 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angel and Neptune's Muse ~

I found some fascinating stuff on the Yod in a book called "Chiron-Transforming Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets" by Barbara Hand Clow, thought I'd copy it in here for ya. You and I don't have Chiron as part of our Yods, but it's interesting anyway.....

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150 DEGREES: THE QUINCUNX AND THE YOD
The quincunx is considered to be a minor aspect by many astrologers, and the Yod, "The Finger of God," is not well understood. In my work, the quincunx represents a dynamic in consciousness which is as critical as the conjunction, sextile, square, trine, and opposition. The trine point in the wheel represents a high level ofharmonic attunement, and as the energy moves out of it and into the quincunx, the energy is moving from extreme attunement to another level of stress which activates the consciousness necessary for full manifestation at the opposition. Thus, the quincunx contains all the awareness and attunement of the trine, and it activates that balance even further so that complete visionary awareness and non-avoidance of structural tension is possible at the opposition.
Quincunxes need to be understood as process more than the other aspects, because they are either waxing—moving into opposition, or waning—moving out of the opposition. To determine which planet is waxing or waning in quincunx, identify the heaviest planet in the aspect and then decide whether the other planet is moving into or out of opposition. Aspecting always moves clockwise. And when this process is understood, then the Yod is easily grasped. The opposition between Chiron and a planet indicates a high level of structural tension about the issue in question and a high consciousness about it after age 40. The process is the same as described for the square, but the end result with the opposition is full blown polarity awareness. The image for this awareness is the Full Moon, when all issues of the lunar seed planted at the New Moon are resolved. Quincunxes need to be decoded by identifying the opposition they are moving into or out of. The issue of the opposition is the problem being manifested, and the quincunx pushing into it is working to resolve it in this lifetime. This waxing, or 150 degree quincunx, is inherently Chirotic because it is moving trine formation into opposition manifestation. It is moving harmony to at-one-ment. These are the parts of your consciousness which never stop pushing at you for more resolution, and the native often develops highly here due to the incessant pressure.
The quincunx moving out of opposition, or the 210 degree quincunx, represents energy which is pushing toward more realization about an opposition which was highly resolved in a significant life before this one. It merges the subtle realms with this lifetime. This energy is a little unnerving, but it is a safety valve, making sure the native continues to manifest the power of the opposition that he or she worked so hard to develop a long time ago. It is inherently Plutonic, driving full awareness even deeper into the subconscious. Obviously, the quincunxes are fantastic clues about past life information in the natal chart, but that is the subject of another book This is the kind of energy you have observed in an individual who is really well developed in some area and yet still keeps pushing further.
With the understanding of quincunxes in process, the power of the Yod becomes more obvious. It is, indeed, the Finger of God, and it is also the revelation of the power of Pluto and Chiron working together. Yods are empowered naturally, and they become totally empowered from the following point of view. The waxing quincunx is Chirotic, the waning quincunx is Plutonic, and the Yod point formed from the Chirotic and Plutonic sextile is to be felt like a dowsing rod. If you image it from the sixth/eighth house sextile shooting to the self-knowledge of the first house, you can see the Yod better. You hold Pluto in your right hand and Chiron in your left in sextile, and you shoot all the power of Chiron and Pluto down through the rods to the dowsing end, the planet which is the Finger of God. If Chiron is the planet at the Finger of God in the Yod, then Chiron is the dowsing energy triggered by the two planets in sextile.
This aspect is the most immediately empowered and useful in the natal chart. It is a gift from God to be revealed to the native. However, the Yod can also backfire because it can function like the trine in one's twenties since it is harmonically balanced. However, in the thirties, a native with a Yod to Chiron will become obsessively restless. Unlike the trine the Yod does not dissolve when not activated. It will finally activate in one's forties. This is a person who is unnoticed until forty and then surprises everyone. Also, looking at Chiron from a point of view of the waxing quincunx reveals Chiron's pushy initiatory nature. And looking at Pluto from the point of view of the waning quincunx offers fresh insight about how Pluto drives us deeper into essence just as soon as we have seen the light of the opposition insight. Chiron rules waxing quincunxes, and Pluto rules waning quincunxes, a major key to utilizing the opposition.

'Zala

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posted July 28, 2005 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Example of what a Yod looks like. The Planets at each point do not have to be the same :::



"The Yod being its astrological name, it is also known as the Finger of God or the Finger of Fate. By its configuration it points to and therefore emphasises one particular planet. It is formed by two planets making a sextile aspect to each other and both of these planets making a quincunx aspect to a third planet. Yod is the Hebrew meaning "blessed" and is said to have a kind of fate about it. At once easy by the sextile, yet made difficult by the quincunx aspects, the Yod points to the ultimate challenge and goal."

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posted July 28, 2005 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is this considered a Yod ??

Jupiter Quincunx Saturn
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus
Jupiter Quincunx Neptune
Jupiter Quincunx Pluto
Mercury Quincunx Ascendant

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Azalaksh
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posted July 28, 2005 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, sweet_face! What house is your Jupiter in? What an incredible focus and tension you possess! What are the degrees/signs of Jupiter and the sextiling planets at the base (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)?

'Zala

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posted July 28, 2005 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Azal,

My jupiter is in gemini in the 6th house,I dont know the degrees , the report i ordered didnt show the degrees, weird huh???
(Saturn,Uranus,Neptune is in Cappi),(Pluto in Scorpio)

Mercury in critcal degree taurus in 5th house and Ascendant in crittical degree sagg.

is focus and tension a bad thing??

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posted August 03, 2005 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweet_face ~

Are your birth stats here at LL somewhere, or would you be willing to pass them on so I can take a look? Or, see the following.....

Angel & Neptune's Muse ~

Hey ladies, Secret Garden did an interp of our Moon/Neptune/Pluto Yod over here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006182.html . Since she's already got the basic quincunx/sextile energies scoped out, all she'd need to do is zero in on the houses of your apex foci.....

'Zala

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Kyra
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posted August 04, 2005 12:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey... sorry to just butt up into this thread, but is Mars quincunx Neptune, Jupiter Quincunx Neptune, and Mars sextile Jupiter a yod? I thought it looked like one, but I couold be wrong.

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posted August 04, 2005 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to the forum, Kyra!

Yep, it sure sounds like it! But what are the degrees -- how tight is the orb?

'Zala

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Kyra
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posted August 04, 2005 12:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°35
Mars Quincunx Neptune 1°56
Jupiter Quincunx Neptune 0°39

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