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Topic: id/ego/superego...moon/sun/rising
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whiterabbit
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posted July 22, 2005 02:30 PM
  
ok, I have a theory (I'm sure I'm not the first..) about the typical course of development and astrology.
I was looking at old family photos and I noticed what a show-off I was when I was little. In pretty much every photo I'm totally posing. I was even heavily into acting- theatre and TV. I was never caught off guard if there was a camera around. Which is very diferent from my teenage photos where I usually tried to look goofy or I wasn't even paying attention.
I'm thinking that when we're children we exhibit a lot of our moon sign- which is closest to our insticts, our uninhibited, pure selves (moon in Leo here- makes so much sense in my case). As we enter our teenage years and into our twenties- we're trying to be unique, to carve out our identities, find out who we are. I read somewhere the 20s are the "age of individuality". This is when we're most like our Sun sign- the sign of the ego and identity. And as we mature into our 30's (roughly) and beyond, we turn more to the outside world- through our families and careers, and just simply having been inwardly focused through our younger years, we have learned those lessons and we turn to the world. And our rising signs become most prominent here. This also roughly corresponds to the id/ego/superego concepts. Sorta.
Of course some people choose a different way to go about it, or get stuck in one phase, or begin with the ending..this is just a rough, hypothetical outline. Do you think it makes sense? IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 22, 2005 02:59 PM
I don't know. I know I was a show-off when I was little, but I don't know whether that would come from my Sag. Moon or Aries Sun. I'm 15 now, and I'm definitely most like my Rising sign (Virgo).IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted July 22, 2005 05:56 PM
Hey whiterabbit this is an interesting theory...I think I read something like this before. When I was a child I think I identified with my Pisces Moon...read others thoughts very easily and extremely sensitive to other motives. When I look back at my nursery school, kindergarten and grade one pictures I stood out like a shining star...biggest most confident smile...perfect posture and stood at the top middle. But the negative aspects of my Pisces Moon...opposite Saturn, Square Neptune were due to have an effect in my childhood....and that was expressed as soon as my family moved and started having problems. I became shy and more withdrawn and it didnt' matter how many compliments and how much praise I received. I was my own worst critic and my parents had a lot to do with my poor mentality. I didn't really identify with my sun or ascendant at those times. As I entered my teens I still had this false image in my head with the negative aspects of my moon. In my mid teens I became more of my Sun in Aquarius, and by my late teens and in my twenties I began to identify more and more with my Ascendant and more of the positive aspects in my chart. When I look back at all the mental, emotional and psychological trauma of the past...I think it was in my best interest  IP: Logged |
whiterabbit
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posted July 22, 2005 07:24 PM
well, I figured it wouldn't apply to everyone. And then I'm also certain your whole chart it always affecting you, it's just that certain aspects may be heightened at times.
nove- were you more of a bossy show-off or a friendly, goofy sort?
DD- interesting! you seem to have followed this pattern.
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When I look back at all the mental, emotional and psychological trauma of the past...I think it was in my best interest
whoa!  that's quite a statement. Definitely very inspiring for me (suffering from a fair share of bitterness). What's your ascendant, by the way? IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 22, 2005 08:03 PM
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nove- were you more of a bossy show-off or a friendly, goofy sort?
Haha, both, really. But I conveniently had the little Sagittarian trait of "fibbing" when I was little.  IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted July 23, 2005 09:16 AM
yeah , the theory works perfectly for me .me the taurus- moon
i was the silent , a few friends , a bit of inferiority complex . cancer-sun
i am still the shy , moody but intimidating at times , fiery speaker , family oriented , money maker . IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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posted July 23, 2005 11:38 AM
nove, I thought Saggies were reknowned for telling the truth!  And wow, whiterabbit! This pattern is definately panning out for me! As a kid, with an Aries Moon-
I was pretty much bossy, obnoxious, LOUD, a drama queen, and had no inhibitions. At the age of about 11 onwards my Virgo Sun reallly kicked into play! All through the age of 11 I wished I was 10 again because I didn't want to grow up. 12 was probably the worst year.
I became totally self-consious, very reserved, more intellectual  , I got embarassed by nearly everything and over-analysed EVERYTHING! So, good call WR! Wonder what my Capricorn rising will do to me in later years..... IP: Logged |
suzyque
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posted July 23, 2005 02:28 PM
Wow that description of the how the sun, moon, asc works was really insightful!!! That pattern totally fits me to a tee. My mom said that when i was a kid i was always calm, relaxed, content nothing really got me rattled(taurus moon). My teenage years i was definetly influenced by my virgo sun, i was a typical virgo type through to i hit about 30 then i my ascendant started to influence my a great deal(asc aquarius). My sun still has a strong influence but not as much as it did, i defintely am identifying with my ascendant a great deal now. And it wasn't a concious thing it how i look at life and other people now is very different. I really think there is some creedance to this theory. IP: Logged |
whiterabbit
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posted July 23, 2005 02:33 PM
woo hoo! I'm glad that this is making sense to people. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted July 23, 2005 02:40 PM
Hey Whiterabbit, my ascendant is in Gemini. I think the upsets I encountered in my childhood made me out to be less egotistical, and much stronger mentally and in faith. And if I didn't go through this I most likely would've taken a less favourable path for my soul. Hope things get brighter for you IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 23, 2005 03:07 PM
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nove, I thought Saggies were reknowned for telling the truth!
LOL, I've read so many interps. for the moon that say stuff like "must control urge to lie and/or exaggerate". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted July 23, 2005 03:17 PM
Hmmmm...I'm not sure that it works for me. I've already written this post once, but it was so long in trying to demonstrate what my life has beem like. I'm not sure how a Virgo Moon kid would act, but I can say that I felt my old-man Capricorn brain at work quite a bit. I often felt like the other kids were acting instinctively whereas I felt a certain detachment and spent time contemplating what was going on. I had fun as well, though. I'm not sure what sign's version of fun that I had, though. My Cap Sun probably came out in my drawing all the time. In interactions with other kids, though, I'm sure you could get a mix of Cap, Gem, and possibly Virgo. Junior High and High School, same thing. At the times I was outgoing it may have been my Gemini ascendant. At times when I was depressed it was probably my Capricorn Sun. Maybe the times I was playfully made fun of for my constanting changing hairstyles (it was the 80's) could be attributed to my Virgo Moon. lol As an adult I feel the same things. I'm a mix. Maybe it's because my ascendant is so different from my Sun. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted July 23, 2005 03:18 PM
Yes Sags can exaggerate but it's usually done in optimism. I can't picture them intentionally lying in a deceitful manner though. IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 23, 2005 03:21 PM
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Yes Sags can exaggerate but it's usually done in optimism. I can't picture them intentionally lying in a deceitful manner though.
Lol. Haha, when I was little, when my grandmother would read me a story or something, haha, the next day I'd do something like put reindeer ears on the dog and say say something like "I saw a reindeer!" hahahaha, I was such a weird little kid. That, or at school, after Christmas break, someone would say they got something awesome, and I'd constantly try to outdo them, even though I didn't actually get what I was saying I did. Lmfao. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted July 23, 2005 03:42 PM
Nove, I have a bit of that goofy and jovial side to me. I still do and say goofy things...which I'm too embarassed to say on LL.  And trying to outdo other kids isn't only common to Sagittarius...evey kid does it, at least at some point. IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 23, 2005 03:43 PM
Haha, I was little. I think the last time I cared enough to do that was......maybe 7th grade? Haha, then the special-ness of it all wore off, and it was like "okay, time to grow up a bit". IP: Logged |
steelrose
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posted July 24, 2005 07:56 AM
BRILLIANT whiterabit… I never looked at it that way… But your theory has a lot of truth in it…Well... I’m a Saggi Moon/Virgo Sun/Saggi Asc... When I was a child I was firey, a born leader… I was a sunny flower, I wanted to stand out, to be taken into account, to be seen…
Inquisitive… My mum says I was constantly and annoyingly asking ‘Why?’… Twice every time… It was a fixed pattern: ‘Mum… Why is the sea blue? Why, Mum, why?’ Linda says that Saggittarian kids’s curiosity never ends… Sun Signs states that their day begins with a question and they fall sleep with a question on their lips…
I had a sparkling childhood, a lovely and magical time where luck held my hand. A popular little kid with tons of friends who followed me… Then trouble started in my teens… Virgo influence… I became withdrawn, emotionally repressed, reserved, naive… A purist… Self-tortured out of my own critics… Misunderstood by the world… I usually hid quietly in a corner, invisible, secretly craving attention… I spent my time trying to serve others, doing favours, trying to feel loved through the need I created in other people… I was academically very bright, envied. Those were my dark ages, where I lost the angel within me, disappointed to the root of the cruelty of the world, of its misery… A figurative personal version of Nicole Kidman’s Dogville (Have you watched that film… Those were my spiritual teens and early years of youth). But then in my mid-twenties, the Saggitarian warrior came back… And the light came back to my life. I started to feel powerful and lucky again. I have so much energy and optimism now that I could light up the world. I’m strong and sunny again… I speak the truth aloud, sometimes I’m blunt and unintentionally hurt people… That’s the drawback… But I’m not going to repress my light anymore… I’ve become a more mature, nicer, jovial and less resentful individual. Travelling is my life, freedom is the key for happiness… I love anything foreign and different. Somehow I came back full circle, to be that child again, that spirit I loved to be, with the strength of experience… Curious that my moon conjuncts my Ascendant…
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Sun_Scorpion
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posted July 24, 2005 08:26 AM
Hmm, interesting theory WhiteRabbit! 
I seemed to be a very grounded, stable, secure child, more like a Taurus or Cappy than an emotional Scorp! I loved reading (Gemini moon) socialising and playing (Libra asc) and being active.
Then I read about being a Scorp at 10 and started to look more at my personality to see if I fitted in with the traditional Scorpion... some things were right on but others- jealously, insecurity, manipulating weren't so me back then, Ive found as I got older I became more introverted and like a Scorp!
Though I display my Gemini Moon and Libra Ascendant all the time to ppl, I think Im most like a Scorp when alone!! Im very independant and love reading by myself or doing artistic things, which I think is less like a Libra and maybe the flip side of Gemini, or just Scorpio.
I think now Im an older teenager Im more like I was when I was younger, more grounded, but dont know what Ill be like when Im older!!
Cool topic! 
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hot_ice
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posted July 24, 2005 09:02 AM
I was a pretty cancerian guy when i was a kid,my teens were pretty weird,i had to go thru an operation,was in bed for bout 2 months,became very shy after that,became introverted,but then i thinned down,felt a lot better,towards my late teens became more normal,and became me own silly gemini self,hmm good theory...IP: Logged |
MysticScorpio
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posted July 24, 2005 09:06 AM
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I think Im most like a Scorp when alone!! Im very independant and love reading by myself or doing artistic things
Sun_Scorpion I can totally relate to tht.
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Sun_Scorpion
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posted July 24, 2005 09:39 AM
Hey Mystic!
Do you by any chance have Merc in Scorp 1st house too? (Mine is retro as well..) I think definatly Merc in Scorp leads to that sort of solitude. IP: Logged | |
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