posted August 01, 2005 03:57 AM              

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I have a Virgo Asc, Mars & Saturn in Gemini, Neptune in Sagittarius, and Moon, Venus and Jupiter in Pisces. (DOB: 18/4/74, Bristol, England.). Does the Asc "count" towards making the configuration a T-square or Grand Cross? What are the associated energies? (particularly as all signs involved are Mutable?) I have read that a Grand Cross diffuses energy somewhat, but that in a T-square the energy is more directed.

Speaking of a Grand Cross, what's with the planetary line-up at the end of this year? (Sun & Jupiter in Scorpio, Neptune in Aquarius, Saturn in Leo, Mars in Taurus) Astrology on the Web's astrologer seems to be predicting doom and gloom and a very difficult time for all. What's your take on this configuration, with the Grand Cross in Fixed signs?

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posted August 01, 2005 07:16 AM              

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**Does the Asc "count" towards making the configuration a T-square or Grand Cross?**
... i would have thought so

** sorry .. edited due to birth time ( as u posted it before ) .. daylight saving mix up**
explanation: i have a b/t for your chart .. with summer time included the asc be
at 19 deg Virgo .. which be square the North Node ..
Mc be at 16 deg Gemini .. so Asc/Mc would form a GCross .. 3 deg orb
Mc be square ( within 4 deg ) to Moon and Venus

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posted August 01, 2005 11:09 AM              

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Thanks Happy Dragon! (Don't worry abt. the mix-up.)

Wow! I don't know anyone else with this configuration. It's true my energies tend to be diffuse. Are there any good Web links to this subject, as I can't find much info on it?

Anyone else have similar placements in their chart?

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posted August 02, 2005 12:54 AM            

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"Anyone else have similar placements in their chart?"

I have a T-square in my chart, Pluto (Scorpio in the 2nd) opposes Jupiter (Taurus in the 8th) and Mars (Aquarius in the 4th) squares both of them. I've been told that my configuration means I have some sort of anger problem, but I'm not too sure exactly.

(And hello I'm new here!)

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posted August 02, 2005 03:25 AM              

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Alterna, I wonder whether this has to do w. Fixed signs? My mother and husband both have T-squares in Fixed signs, if you count the Asc - mother has a Leo/Scorpio/Taurus and hubbie has an Aqua/Scorpio/Leo. I suppose I must attract them. Don't know anyone else w. a Grand Cross though.

I find I am (almost) interminably flexible - two sides to that coin, as w. everything.

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posted August 02, 2005 08:03 AM              

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Hi AT, I have a Grand Cross - Sun in Leo, Moon in Aqua, Uranus in Scorpio and Chiron in Taurus. I am so looking forward to the next few months.

SunShyne

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posted August 02, 2005 09:48 AM              

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posted August 02, 2005 12:41 PM            

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posted August 02, 2005 02:03 PM              

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Hi guys - I have 2 T-squares in my chart:

T-Square from Ven: 8Sco39'29" to Moo:14Aqu05'06" and Sat:14Leo11'03"

T-Square from Ura: 5Sco47'49" to Moo: 14Aqu05'06" and Sat: 14Leo11'03"

someone told me that to "relieve pressure" from these aspects was to look at the house opposite the 1 sign that isn't in the opposition. for example, my leo in 2nd is opposed (check out that orb of opposition!!) my moon in 8th and they both square scorpio in the 5th so i look to the 11th house for an outlet to this energy.

alterna you can look at your 10th house as the key on how to release your "anger problem" or what have you.

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posted August 02, 2005 02:19 PM              

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I suppose a Grand Cross makes all kinds of T-squares? Where is the pressure relieved...or is it concentratd down each right-angle?

What do you think?

Still can't come up w. any decent info on the subject though, even through Googling.

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posted August 02, 2005 03:08 PM              

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.. lost a good LL thread bookmark on the subject ..
.. it had some good info on both T.sqr and G.crosses ..
.. went searching thru previous threads ..
.. found this posted by 'Zala
http://www.indigoray.net/grandcross.html

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posted August 02, 2005 03:22 PM              

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ariestiger

.. these be a couple of magz from uk shops ..
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/hs.feb01.jpg
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/pd.feb01.jpg

.. here's the astro magazine online ..
http://www.horoscope.co.uk

.. interesting articles .. info .. and more ..

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posted August 02, 2005 03:30 PM              

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here we go. someone posted this somewhere and i saved it!

skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.htm

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posted August 02, 2005 03:30 PM              

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***Speaking of a Grand Cross, what's with the planetary line-up at the end of this year? (Sun & Jupiter in Scorpio, Neptune in Aquarius, Saturn in Leo, Mars in Taurus) Astrology on the Web's astrologer seems to be predicting doom and gloom and a very difficult time for all. What's your take on this configuration, with the Grand Cross in Fixed signs? ***

.. got a feeling that Iranian nuclear ambitions will be spotlighted ..
.. that .. and the spread of bird-flu ..

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posted August 02, 2005 05:15 PM              

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Ugh, don't tell me...

Thanks for the links, HD - liked the link from 'Zala. Prediction's also a good magazine.
"Master juggler" (Mutable GC)...that's me all right...has its uses though.

According to the Nick Campion link...I not only have a Grand Cross, but ALSO a Mystic Rectangle!!! This apparently enables me to use my natural talents to the full!

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posted August 07, 2005 06:35 AM            

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T-Square from Sun: 2Sco43'08" to Moo: 8Leo25'44" and Mar: 10Aqu07'28"
T-Square from Ven: 18Sco05'52" to Moo: 8Leo25'44" and Mar: 10Aqu07'28"
T-Square from Plu: 7Sco06'28" to Moo: 8Leo25'44" and Mar: 10Aqu07'28"

3 t-squares here

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posted August 08, 2005 02:01 AM              

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Hi Ariestiger
i have sun in pisces
moon in aquarius
mercury in pisces
venus in capricorn
mars in taurus
jupiter in aquarius
saturn in gemini
my ascendant is virgo
so i guess sort of similar

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posted August 08, 2005 02:02 AM              

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oh and my date of birth is 21/02/1974

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posted August 08, 2005 02:03 AM              

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Neptune in sagittarius

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posted August 08, 2005 02:23 AM              

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http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/GlastonburyArchive/time/lit12.html

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