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Cardinalgal
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posted August 02, 2005 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4737647.stm

Just wondered what everyone's thoughts are on this?

Do existing planet's influences diminish as we discover new planets or are they still as potent? Particularly such a powerful planetry influence as Pluto?

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Planet_Soul
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posted August 02, 2005 09:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The discovery will likely modify things, it will be interesting to see what happens. I don't like the name they gave this planet, I was hoping for a more classical name like the other nine. Personally, I will always see the Lord of the Underworld as a planet. Hades/Pluto doesn't need to be big to prove anything to anyone. His discovery is linked to the discovery of Atomic power, and destruction and reconstruction. Yes, Pluto is definatly not on the sidelines. What do you Scorpio's out there think? Is your traditional ruler still alive or what?

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 02, 2005 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For astrology, I don't think it'll change Pluto's significance - there's been so much discernnment on it's influence that it won't be pushed aside if astronomers decided to call Pluto a comet or asteriod or a moon or whatever. Most astrologer today recognize Chiron as very signifiacant, and that'll never be deemed a planet by astronomers. So hey.

The debate over whether Pluto is or is not a planet has been ragin since its discovery, and it's never been truly resolved in the minds of most astronomers anyhow. However, they not fighting over Pluto's relevency to the nature of our solar system - they are fignthing over what should and should not be called a planet (there's no set, universally accepted definition of what a planet is). Whatever the astronomers decide to label Pluto in the end, astrologers ought not be that concerned - we already know Pluto's important, and that's really what matters to us.

BTW, I have Pluto rising. LOL.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 02, 2005 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I agree...pluto can never eliminated. Just ask all those scorpios Plus my sister has a scorpio rising w/ pluto on the rising(double the power)...lets just say if she says something gonna happen, it usually does...just a little clairvoyant...just a little

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WaterNymph
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posted August 03, 2005 04:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn’t know Pluto wasn’t from our solar system. And I didn’t know Pluto was the only planet the Americans discovered.

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Cardinalgal
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posted August 03, 2005 05:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Jonathan Cainer's website re the new planet...

"Some people think the newly discovered planet is too small to 'count'. But it is bigger (and arguably more important) than Pluto. Some people think it cannot possibly be named after a fictional TV star. But Xena is a name that is going to stick. Though it seems as strange as calling a planet Tarzan or Popeye, it's really no more peculiar than using another name from the pantheon of ancient Greece. Mercury, Venus and Jupiter were 'fantasy figures' too. A leather-clad warrior goddess with distinctly sapphic overtones is precisely the stuff that modern myths are made of."

Xena! For heaven's sake!!

Yep I agree with all said here - don't think that something so powerful and pivotal as Pluto can be sidelined or forgotten even if it's not a real planet. Has anyone ever tried to sideline a Scorpio?! Enough said!!

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WaterNymph
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posted August 03, 2005 05:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmao @ Xena
Perhaps it’s a good idea to not confuse astrology with astronomy. For some reason saying that makes me feel uneasy

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whalewasp78
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posted August 03, 2005 09:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are kidding right? Xena? So they're naming planets after TV characters? Are they going to name the next one 'Fonzie'?

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2005 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we have to build on what we have, not eliminate or replace. We've got a great foundation! It's working!

As far as "size", I know the Planets have gravitational or even chemical effects on us, but I'm also careful not to forget that a lot of astrology has to do with cyclical seasons. The planetary objects out there help us keep track of time, per se. Astrological time, if you will. Behavioral seasons. The universe is like a big clock.

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lalalinda
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posted August 12, 2005 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any one who has been "whammied" by a Pluto transit knows dynamite comes in small packages.

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teaselbaby
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posted August 13, 2005 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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any one who has been "whammied" by a Pluto transit knows dynamite comes in small packages.

I thought the same thing when I heard about this. I've been through my share of heavy Pluto transits, and it was looking back and seeing these transits when I first started to study astrology, that explained so much for me.

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proxieme
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posted August 13, 2005 11:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that this says it all:

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"From now on, everyone should ignore the distracting debates of the scientists. Planets in our solar system should be defined not by some attempt at forcing a scientific definition on a thousands-of-years-old cultural term, but by simply embracing culture. Pluto is a planet because culture says it is."

He considers 2003 UB313 to be a planet in a "cultural" and "historical" sense, adding: "I will not argue that it is a scientific planet because there is no good scientific definition which fits our solar system and our culture and I have decided to let culture win this one.

"We scientists can continue our debates, but I hope we are generally ignored."


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pixelpixie
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posted August 14, 2005 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"fonzie"
ROFL


*Does wild Xena yell~ ieieiieieieieieieieieieieieeieeeeeeeeee

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