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LILYGIRL
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posted August 02, 2005 06:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, that's it. Since before my birthday, I have felt like I am on a rollercoast ride. Between my business, my marriage, the kids and beating this cancer, I do not know if I am coming on going. The cancer exacerbated these feelings. I simply keeping asking myself, is this where I want to be the rest of my fricking life. I am trying to learn something from these two bouts.

I finally figure out I can get a solar return chart. Here it it. I have imputed it to form a regular chart. What guidance can I get from this? The first things I notice are that my Ascendant and Moon are conjunct in SCORPIO and the Moon is in the 12 House! So that seems to explain all my emotional intensity, and secrecy. I also see Uranus and MARS conjunct in the 4th so does this mean I am going to be taking my household through radical blow everything up changes this year? I also see An Air Trine though I am not certain what that bodes exactly.

This under the name REDUX:

http://www.astro.com/ cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=2&smon=8&syr=2005&rs=&orbp=&cid=jubfile0TIv0c-u1123017773&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Gemini 00°57'21 07 direct
Moon Scorpio 06°07'32 12 direct
Mercury Taurus 16°49'24 07 direct
Venus Gemini 14°27'16 08 direct
Mars Pisces 15°01'19 04 direct
Jupiter Libra 09°14'25 11 retrograde
Saturn Cancer 23°31'43 09 direct
Uranus Pisces 10°31'51 04 direct
Neptune Aquarius 17°36'09 03/4 stationary (R)
Neptune is technically near the end of house 3 and is interpreted in house 4.
Pluto Sagittarius 23°46'09 02 retrograde
True Node Aries 22°19'18 06 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 11°57'27
2nd House Sagittarius 11°10'37
3rd House Capricorn 14°34'35
Imum Coeli Aquarius 19°58'17
5th House Pisces 22°34'05
6th House Aries 19°42'52
Descendant Taurus 11°57'27
8th House Gemini 11°10'37
9th House Cancer 14°34'35
Medium Coeli Leo 19°58'17
11th House Virgo 22°34'05
12th House Libra 19°42'52

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Saturn 7°26
Moon Trine Uranus 4°24
Moon Conjunction Ascendant 5°50
Mercury Sextile Mars 1°48
Mercury Square Neptune 0°47
Mercury Opposition Ascendant 4°52
Mercury Square Medium Coeli 3°09
Venus Square Mars 0°34
Venus Trine Jupiter 5°13
Venus Square Uranus 3°55
Venus Trine Neptune 3°09
Venus Quincunx Ascendant 2°30
Venus Sextile Medium Coeli 5°31
Mars Conjunction Uranus 4°29
Mars Trine Ascendant 3°04
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 1°17
Saturn Quincunx Pluto 0°14
Uranus Trine Ascendant 1°26
Neptune Square Ascendant 5°39
Neptune Opposition Medium Coeli 2°22
Pluto Trine Medium Coeli 3°48

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 02, 2005 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.. Oh and I see a T square venus, mars and pluto... yikes

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 02, 2005 10:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump....

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wilsontc
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posted August 03, 2005 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lily,

The only thing I would add to your list of stressful energies is Neptune (spirituality, also confusion) conjunct (energy is combined with) Nadir (inner world). When Neptune is conjunct the Nadir we may tend to get confused about who we are and our place in the world. It may be helpful to find a place to "disconnect" from the pressures of the world and explore your spirituality, perhaps through meditation practices.

Suggesting,

Tim

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 03, 2005 09:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tim. Good, good. Gosh. Someone just told me when they look at my solar return they see turmoil--- namely sex and secrets (Venus in 8th, trine Mars and Uran Conjunct ? Anyway...), a sudden affair and me leaving my husband. A bit overwhelming to say the least.

Gulping hard AND meditating!!!, (lol)

LilyGirl

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elemiah
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posted August 03, 2005 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silly question first, sorry lilygirl, but how did you get your solar return calculated? I read natal chart at the bottom of your chart. I may be wrong ( very likely,lol) but if you go to astro.com, you fill in your birth data and then you can get a solar return from there. Are you sure that´s your return chart?

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 03, 2005 09:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. Yes its a solar return. I took the date and time of the solar return and plugged it in to make a regular chart. I wanted to see the Pullen profile on the solar return's personality which is why I did that. Then I saw I can also see the aspects too...like the t squares etc...Makes it easier for me to learn quickly...

Always a Gemini doing crazy things,

lol,

Lilygirl

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elemiah
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posted August 03, 2005 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It takes me forever to analyze a chart, esp a solar one, but I´ll give it a try in small doses!
You´re indeed going to be very emotional this year, that moon conj asc and in scorpio is very powerful, and it´s not too afflicted. I would say you´re going to feel pretty misunderstood ( square chiron) and resort to manipulative behaviour at home, mars conj uranus is the typical aspect for manipulative people, at least in natal charts. I´d say you´ll do it subtly ( both trine moon).
I´ll write sth else later, I don´t want to rush it cause I´m not an expert. A friend of mine is helping me looking at your chart ( she´s almost a pro) and she wont be back till later. I don´t want to say anything until she hears it first to check it out, just in case, she´s my teacher, lol.
Talk soon!

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 03, 2005 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks alot Elemiah. I appreciate it. Mainipulative...yuk, bleech!! I try to be so direct normally (that aries in moon and sag rising) but with that SR moon and ascendant in scorpio, I swear I have been much more quiet, secretive and to myself. I need to thinkkkkkk!!!!, to decide what to do about my life without destroying everyone else's. I already know what everyone else wants. Anyway, I am happy you will look at it.

The person who saw me poring over my SR chart joked that I was going to have an affair and run away and that Uranus meant sudden and unexpected (that it has to be a new person) so I have been fighting her on that. Other than my college love, I've been with one guy, my husband. So who's it going to be my UPS guy? Lovely brown socks with emblems. LOL.

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 03, 2005 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like you're on to something Elemiah... I found this. I have to say that's how I feel right now...ALOT!!

Astrological Interpretations:
Mars-Uranus Aspects

Aspects of Mars and Uranus ... The Conjunction


Will-power, courage, an dogged persistence characterize this aspect ... Often the character shows best in moments of danger but it has little patience under stress and strain. - C.E.O. Carter in Astrological aspects

The executive ability and energy of Mars is placed under high tension by a conjunction with Uranus. With two impatient active factors in such close contact, we feel the urge, even when very young, to go our own way as unconventionally as possible. There is something provocative and defiant about our behavior whenever we stand up for ourselves. Our patient is not great: we have too much need of action, change and renewal ... But the same swiftness of action makes us extremely adroit at handling difficult situations where snap decisions have to be taken. - Karen Hamaker-Zondag in Aspects and Personality

The power of this conjunction [Mars conjunct Uranus] gives great vitality, honesty, persistence, and courage. They are strongly freedom-oriented, which makes it very difficult for them to take instruction from anyone else since they interpret it as an infringement on their freedom. ... They seem to have a need to shock people... - Myrna Lofthus

Mars conjunct Uranus. The natives cannot bear a dull life and constantly seek excitement through danger and unusual action. Courage and decisiveness are prominent .... Natives gain emotional satisfaction from dramatic manifestations of energy: sport car racing, jet planes, rockets, firearms, or the explosive human situations found in large crowds. Mechanical and scientific bents are indicated ... It is more of a technician's than a scientist's aspect, unless both a strong Mercury and a strong Saturn are in the horoscope... - Frances Sakoian - Louis S. Acker

With Mars-Uranus there are strong individualistic tendencies - not only do these types have to establish themselves as separate entities, but they have to do it in their own way. There is a need to produce or express (Mars) something which is original or unique (Uranus). If those with this aspect don't have outlets for creative energies, they stay highly strung: there is too much energy and nowhere for it to go. - Howard Sasportas, in Liz Greene & Howard Sasportas: Dynamics of the Unconscious

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elemiah
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posted August 04, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune square ascendant
Saturn square node

I just had a look at those 2 aspects because, IMHO, they may have sth to do with your restlessness. Both harsh asp are related to lack of freedom in a way. In fact, the first one tells us about living somehow in a dream world and very sensitive to criticism, and saturn squaring your node could very well imply the fact that you would like to break away from sth, but you won´t because it would not be socially accepted ( esp with saturn in the 9th, you know, among other things meaning social values). However, it would be careless to jump to a conclusion if you don´t pay attention to the comparison bt your natal chart and the solar return, so that you can have a clearer picture of the real implications...

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 04, 2005 01:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey E.

That's fascinating about Saturn in 9th. Unfortunately I have always follwoed the good girl social contract so having in 9th now seems typical. LOL. Frankly I am not doing anything about my situation right now because I wonder if I have the heart to upset everyone's life and the social construct that I have 14 years in. GRRR.

My natal shows Saturn in House 2 and I have always been fairly astute with finances but never flush in cash...careful. That natal Saturn House 2 for me often has to do with self esteem issues left over from childhood.

Saturn in May 2006 solar return will actually be in the 7th House, makes me wonder if this poor communication with my spouse will simply continue? Well that's a little irksome. LOL.

So you don't see a hot affair with the UPS delivery guy and me running off into the sunset with his shiny polished brown truck? LOL.

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2005 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LILYGIRL -

My alternative take is this ...

You have strong Mutable's dueling it out with strong Fixed energies. So you're not quite sure when to ACT on things. This is further complicated with a Saturn in Cancer, which makes you a little suspicious.

I don't think that there is a "problem" with being emotional or secretive. That's just indicative of your processing style.

Your tendency is actually probably more to do with shooting from the hip, but then something makes you hesitate, which causes you to second-guess yourself. It's the actual stage of hesitation which confuses you. You'd like things to flow, but don't get too caught up in your "style" according to what others think. Accept the way you naturally need to process things. Give yourself ample room to hesitate. Don't be so hard on yourself, is a simple solution to that trap. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!

Know that your destiny is pulling you towards that North Node in Aries. Towards that MC in Leo. You WANT to shoot from the hip, and you want to be right every time (which is an impossibility for ANYONE).

You'll be learning strong lessons on HOW to do that without sabotaging yourself.

You may be struggling with being a leader, versus going with the flow. Going with the flow may seem like the easier path, and the most "pleasant" way to be around others. But do not neglect your capability to start things and lead. You sort of have to agree to negotiate WITH YOURSELF first.

Hope I came close to the mark.

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 12, 2005 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks AJ. Well this is my SOLAR RETURN chart so gratefully it has a limited shelf life!

Yes. Currently I am feeling just as you describe. I am going with the flow, but the flow no longer feels correct or even the least bit comfortable. And yes, I want to shoot from the hip but I am hesitating constantly, daily, minute by minute! The edginess has waned a bit but I am settling down to envision--at least in my mind a different kind of existence.

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astro junkie
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posted August 13, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew! Ok ... glad you can relate to my take on it ...

Again, I can relate to those contradictions. Just my Scorpio Stellium in the 6th House ALONE makes me the same way. Plus Venus in Virgo.

I have Jupiter & Saturn in Capricorn and lots of Cardinal's. Everything just seems to keep PUSHING ME to do more and more. Libra Sun in the 5th helps somewhat, but not really.

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