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Loopy24
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posted August 08, 2005 06:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would anyone be able to check out romantic compatibility on me 12th April 1981 2:08am and Mr Pisces 27th Febuary 1985 3:55pm, Both born Birmingham England. I'm a novice at astrology and have used the sites available online but find the interpretations very basic.
I have asked you all for advice about a cancerian in the past but have given up the ghost with that. Mr Pisces is my best friend, we shared a house together and became very close, our bond is very emotional and can be quite intense. He moved out just as things happened with the cancerian, I wonder whether my infatuation with the cancerian was an attempt to replace Mr Pisces. Things went wierd after that. But Mr Pisces is back in my life again and i realise that i love him VERY deeply. I don't know whether its just a friendship love though. Can anyone offer any insight. I'd be eternally gratefull
Oh and I'm a novice but i've read a lot about moon sign compatibility so if anyone wants my (beginners) oppinion on moon sign compatibility I'd be happy to help. xx

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posted August 08, 2005 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, this must be quite an 'interesting' relationship- you both have venus & mars in aries! ok....well the venus/mars contacts are very heavy in your chart, all conjunct each other, i've never seen that before. So, I'm going to throw this out there- I don't see this working as a friendship. Due to your moon contacts (yours to his 12th and his to your 5th)- I also have a feeling that your effect on him is somewhat more profound than vice versa. You've got a nice Jupiter trine, can't be bad..and the famous and crucial Saturn contacts are there too- a double whammy moon/saturn trine (yours to his and his to yours) which throws in longevity. His Neptune is conjunct your ascendant- I'll look up what this could mean for a synastry chart, I have a feeling but I don't want to just BS when I'm not sure.
all your mars/venus contacts are happening in the 3rd for you and 9th for him so, according to one source: When another person's planets fall in your third house, the energies symbolized by those planets will have an impact on the issues of the house. For instance, if a friend's Venus (the planet of romance, relationship, emotion, art, luxury, among other things) falls in your third house, your emotional response toward this person might be in some way similar to what you would feel toward a sibling, or you might communicate emotionally with one another.

ok, I'm actually running late for work, but I'll write some more later and I'm sure other people here will help you out.
best of luck! (with true love and all that)

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Loopy24
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posted August 08, 2005 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White Rabbit Thank you so much. Am looking forward to reading the rest of your thoughts on it. It made me go cold when i read it. When i talk about emotional/deep things i effect him quite strongly and you picked up on that. Think what you said about it not working as friendship could well be true too. There's always this underlying sexual tension xx

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posted August 08, 2005 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello,
well I've done some thinking and reading about Neptune-Ascendant conjunction, as I think it's important here (just a feeling). It is likely that your very presence has a powerful effect on some very deep, ego-less and spiritual part of him. It's likely that this happened when he first laid eyes on you, and you might not even be aware of the power you have over him (it's not a conscious, controllable power really). Because of so many of your planets falling into his 9th house, it adds to this feeling of a spiritual/philosophical connection, rather than a carnal one- although (and this may sound contradictory) there is also a great element of physicality- Mars (such a physical planet), being so important here. Maybe there is a conflict between this powerful spiritual pull and the lustful, physical one- I'm just speculating- is that close at all?
Now, the composite chart definitely sheds some light on things. You've got an Aries ascendant, with Venus and Mars falling in the 12th house. I'm seeing this as a relationship that those around you view as a fun, flirty, passionate and perhaps fleeting thing but in reality- there is a lot more depth to things that perhaps even the two of you realize. Even that sexual attraction may in fact be rooted in a much deeper connection that is just finding its expression in that one physical way. There is possibility for minging of souls here, I reckon! One thing is interesting- composite Sun in the 11th is often indicative of friendship rather than romance- but it could also mean that your relationship may have a lot to do with public/group involvments, perhaps with some sort of organizations, charities, NGOs? Or maybe at the end of the day what matters most to you is your friendship?
Moon in the 2nd indicates that emotional security and values are pretty important to both of you and perhaps there is a sense of safety and shelter that you give each other which draws you together? There's an interesting composite Pluto and Saturn conjunction right by the descendant- I used astro.com to get this information about that:

Composite Pluto in the seventh house can have two quite opposite effects. On the one hand it can signify that the two of you work very hard to create a viable relationship. You recognize that this relationship is having a great impact on both of you, and you experience it as a way of gaining a new, regenerated life. This can be expected if your relationship is otherwise quite good.

If there is a great deal of stress, however, a quite different effect will emerge. In this case each of you will continually try to dominate the other: in other words, a power struggle. If one of you wins this struggle, the other will feel extremely stifled, which will probably lead to further trouble.

Most couples experience a mixture of good and bad effects from a seventh-house Pluto. If you wish to keep this relationship going, continue working together for growth and development. And try to lower the pressure.

The conjunction of Saturn and Pluto in your composite chart indicates that the two of you may have to face difficult times together and that you will have to struggle quite hard to keep going. But these difficulties are not so likely to occur within the relationship; more probably the two of you will experience difficulties with the outside world.

You may undergo periods of economic scarcity, for example, or times when everything seems to be working against you. Together you will have a kind of rugged persistence that people will envy. You will survive where others fail.

Although this aspect is not the easiest, it may actually strengthen a relationship because of the ruggedness it confers. At the same time, if the two of you have gone through a lot of trouble together, you may feel more strongly about staying together.

and also:

With the opposition of Venus and Pluto in the composite chart you will have to be very careful. Somehow this relationship dredges up all kinds of deeply buried emotions that you may not really want to cope with. At its best, this power can cause you both to become new and more authentic people than you have been. But at its worst you will just play around with each other's feelings and what comes of playing around will make both of you feel quite bad about yourselves.

The feelings between you can be powerful forces for good or bad, so use each other wisely.

and:

Mars Opposition Pluto

With the opposition of Mars and Pluto in the composite chart it will be difficult for the two of you to avoid conflict and power struggles in any kind of relationship. In extreme cases there could be physical violence.

The reasons for the extreme effects of this aspect are as follows. Mars has a great deal to do with the ego-drive, whereby one becomes a fully self-expressive individual. Pluto represents the energy of intense and fundamental transformations. When Mars and Pluto are opposed, this energy is combined inharmoniously with the ego-drives. Or to put it in less philosophical terms, a cosmic power is subjected to purely personal and selfish drives.

In order to deal with this energy constructively, it is necessary to reverse the roles of Pluto and Mars, so that the ego-drives are transformed by the cosmic power of Pluto. Unless you both do this, the experience will be very unpleasant. You must let this relationship change and transform you without resistance.

Well, good luck to you and I hope this helped a little. At the bottom I've included links to good synastry information if you're interested in doing some research yourself. If you haven't already, go to astro.com, enter your birth information and do an "astro click partner" composite reading, it's a surprisingly accurate and informative read considering it's just cut and paste snippets on the aspects and placements.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synastry.html
http://groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT/relationshipastrology2.msnw

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whiterabbit
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posted August 08, 2005 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. that Neptune/Asc thing is still frustrating me, I feel like I haven't really got it. I'm thinking there is also some identity confusion/deception happening? Does he take on your traits? Does he behave in a confusing manner? I know that in a natal chart this is often indicative of people who reflect the "unrealized" sides of those around them, or simply mirror their moods. There is often a lot of confusion about the sense of self and playing the roles that you think people expect you to play. There's also a question of boundaries. I don't know... I suppose you are the best person to understand this aspect. Is any of this hitting home?

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posted August 08, 2005 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes

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whiterabbit
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posted August 08, 2005 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Loopy24
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posted August 10, 2005 07:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White Rabbit's truly are magical aren't they!
What you put about a conflict between the spritual and the physical definately makes sense. Like part of me wants to whip his clothes off the other part wants him on a pedestal of pure emotions. I do idolise him which makes me think is this love for real, funny as one of our favourite songs has the line in it 'baby is this love for real, let me in your arms to feel, your beating heart baby. The other thing you put about souls being able to merge that's how it feels sometimes when we are together like our boundaries blur and we merge.
What you put about the 11th house sun, he works as a carer and i'm hoping to get into social work, we both support and admire each others social conscience. Could it mean though that in spite of deep feelings we'll only ever be friends
His neptune conjunct my asc. I do find him confusing but at the same time understand him. I have neptune conjunct asc in my natal chart, does that affect things.
When we first met, there was this stange vibe, this deep desire to get to know him and i fancied him too. But he's very good looking and that made me wary.

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Loopy24
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posted August 10, 2005 07:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Acoustic God. Was the yikes at our charts or at white rabbits breathtaking greatness?

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Loopy24
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posted August 10, 2005 08:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White Rabbit... What you said about him taking on my traits...could do, but he has influenced my tastes in music, clothes and films to a GREAT extent. He hasn't forced them on me or tried to change me in anyway he's just exposed me to things that i've loved

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Loopy24
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posted August 10, 2005 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
xx

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whiterabbit
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posted August 10, 2005 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good luck, loopy!

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Loopy24
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posted August 11, 2005 07:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone!! white rabbits done her bit can anyone else shed any light......

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shop22much
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posted August 11, 2005 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow your composite has some of the same aspects with aqua boy and i....we have a sun in 11th house, we're both interested in politics, helping the voiceless, and poor, and we have a lot of the same goals, visions, etc for the future, so i definately sense/see the 11th house in our composite...

also we have neptune conj. asc, his conjs mine and mine his...so i guess we have both these effects on each other, when we first spoke, it just felt...i dont know...DIFFERENT...special...like we were catching up, and it was simple, and honest, but i couldnt put my finger on it...def liked him but didnt think he liked me, so i didnt bother, surprise surprise, he always liked me, and ive always taken away his attention towards me...so yeah...but the negative part of this aspect is one or both people idealize the other, in a way, that sometimes can be unhealthy...for the longest time i did that, not sure he does, who knows, putting the other on a "pedestal" of expectations...not good, but also there is a spiritual bond, we've always been able to read each other, and "feel" each other when not around, i know when he is thinking about me...its weird....

venus opposite pluto? dont have that aspect thank god! we have venus conj pluto, it is really magicial...but from the sound of it id be careful with such an aspect....sounds scary..

hope this kinda helped

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Loopy24
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posted August 11, 2005 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Shop22much ( can never shop too much). That more than kinda helpedxxxx Really worried now though, will the venus opposite pluto ruin things? Also don't know what significance this is but I found it peculiar...His ascendant is leo and mine is capricorn, my mum's a capricorn and my dads a leo!!

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shop22much
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posted August 11, 2005 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow how weird....my rising sign is aquarius, his is scorpio, and my mom and dad are scorpio and aquarius...how weird is that???

im glad it helped, dont worry too much about it but be aware of the possiblity, everyone has negative aspects in their composites, synastry...theres some i wish we didnt have together, but you learn from it, and maybe even avoid it all together, how many times have we looked back on the past and said IF ONLY I KNEW WHAT I KNOW NOW? astrology helps us learn, and avoid things that we have control over...good luck

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Loopy24
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posted August 12, 2005 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other insights...please xx

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Loopy24
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posted August 14, 2005 09:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty Please

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Well, I know literally nothing about composite astrology( besides looking at the placements of the planets in the signs and I think that the moon signs and asc are VERY important! But-I have a program on my comp does "relationship compatibility"
It won't let me copy and paste the aspect descriptions, but I am summarizing.
Here are what I think are the most aspects that caught my eye:

Your Sun conjunct his Venus: automatically puts you two in a love relationship or at least romatically aware of eachother. It is a good social aspect and genuinely enjoying one anothers company.

Your Venus conjunct his Mars: Was there an immediate sexual attraction? This placement indicates as much, as well as another Mars interaction-

Your Mars conjunct his Mars: This indicates that you guys highly stimulate one another (possibly too much) and this relaitonships is based on REACTION to one another than RELATING to one another.

Your Ascendant conjunct his Neptune:
There was a LONG paragraph on this aspect (Whiterabbit was on to something!!) but summed up, this means "Psychic Rapport" menaning, immediately you both had the ability to see eachother for who you are-no masks!Also, you are able to identify with one another. However, this aspect warns that one must beware of glamorizing the other person, if this happens, defenses that were once down, can be put back up again; blocking the relationship.

And that comment you made:"I don't know whether its just a friendship love though"
is ironic considering this aspect:

Your venus conjunct his Uranus:
put simply this is "Friendly Lovers" which means that there will be a lot of a openess and freedom in this relationship (which is probbaly why you are confused as to what is going on) b/c it seems like such a friendlu relationship! This is a very non-possessive relationship.


I hope that this has helped!

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Loopy24
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posted August 14, 2005 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geminirising 26 Thank you xxx

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Loopy24
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posted August 14, 2005 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.s meant to add that its true what you put about glamourising, when i idealised him things went to pot and he fell off the pedestal big time. My feelings run deeper when i see him undisguised, don't think he can deal that well with being undisguised that well though (Leo Asc Maybe).

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Loopy24
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posted August 14, 2005 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men mess with my mind and emotions (cus i let them) should just stay away from them..

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shop22much
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posted August 14, 2005 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loopy..I know how you feel...if you want/need someone to talk to, dont hestiate to MSG me at all...aim:lost in aqua

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