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krios
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posted August 12, 2005 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in love with a double Cancer. After everybody is through giving me sympathy please offer the best advice you've got! Linda Goodman believed love solved everything...well he's hard to read..how do I get him to "move" more quickly in this love game? I'm suffering waiting to do this at his pace (I'm Aries). The chemistry is great, the love is great....but how long will it take for us to be in tandem I wonder?
Offer your best hints and advice...for the sake of love

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lovely*
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posted August 12, 2005 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If i could choose the worst sign for Cancer, it would have to be Aries~

But welcome!!!

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krios
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posted August 12, 2005 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the welcome Our composite chart is quite good....that is...once I GET him, things will be fine....it's getting him that's the challenge...

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iAmThat
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posted August 12, 2005 10:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well cancers are very needy people. They need to cling all the time. Understand his needs? Does he like to make love often? Do you need some advice even if you don't just ask one from him. It will have motherly wisdom.

Do lots of activities together. Museums, Paintball.

He may already be in love with you. But afraid to speak it out because he does not want to be hurt. Its just the cancer thing.
Its like "Once bitten Twice Shy" with them.


I believe Aries are a good match for Cancer, if they cross the hurdles.

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krios
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posted August 12, 2005 10:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mind motherly advice at all
Ok...Here's how complicated this REALLY is.
His former relationship is ending (yes he's clinging....still living there. It's not a marriage...but.....) yes he DOES love me...of this I'm certain...but I want him to hurry up with moving out, and he's putting his plan into action....slowly. I don't care how needy and clingy they are...I want him to myself! Is there nothing I can do to speed this up?

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lovely*
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posted August 12, 2005 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My triple Aries bestfriend stalked a Cancer for years. Once, she showed up on his doorstep with a bottle of wine waiting for him on a Friday night (when he hadn't returned her call in days i might add). We still laugh at her craziness and the good ol days.

He pushed her away and away. She finally gave up and a few years later he came around again..they had a fling and she decided he wasn't all that.

Just a story, not trying to project onto your situation, but Aries women are funny that way. Especially if you have Venus placed in Aries, in the 1st house, like my girlfriend

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krios
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posted August 12, 2005 10:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"a few years later he cam around again"....
well...this is 40 years later for us!!!!
All of a sudden...out of nowhere, it seems...but it feels destined. I know it, and I'm "ready to go"....he knows it, and he's taking his time.....through all the frustration of waiting..maybe I'll finally learn patience...'ya think? This is based on feelings from long ago, but it's really new,too....I have a number of planets in Cancer...we jive quite well...but..geez...can't you get a crab out of his hole by poking a stick in it.....where IS that stick!!! my net is ready)

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lovely*
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posted August 12, 2005 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 12, 2005 10:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember all my ex cancer's. I was always boss.


*Sigh


Those were the good old days.


Ok...maybe not.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

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sthenri
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posted August 13, 2005 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my goodness, talk about Cancer trouble!

I have two Cancers on my mind and I have Venus in Aries/5th house, Mars/1st house, and Cancer Moon. You have my sympathy.

I just got finished being yelled at by a Cancer/Leo moon/Venus in Gemini because he wants a commitment but wants assurances that I want one too, or else he will throw the flowers away he bought for me tonight. I was set to come over for a romantic weekend of talking and relating, and dinner, but he's had a long week at work.

He calls me up and immediately starts a fight about how I never compromise and I have no intention of kissing and hugging him and then he hangs up! I don't even get to talk back. Then he sent me a long email about what I did wrong to blow the romantic evening he had planned! All I said was I was tired could we talk when I got there? It's so frustrating, i am ready and he's ****** . Why?

Before I wasn't ready and he was all hot and bothered, I am telling you he's punishing me for some past sin. Or he sees me as another woman. I have told him I want FOREVER, what othe assurance does he need?

he says he wants real emotional involvement, LOVE, now, and I am right here. I am tired of calling him, pursuing, putting in....

apparently when he said he loved me (by email) he wanted me to leave work today and drive directly to his house and prove my love then and there. everything is right NOW!

exhausting stuff, exciting, romantic, but too talky, and angry. Still cancer men are hot stuff and I can't seem to shake my fascination.

The other one has a taurus moon, and he's as stubborn as a brick wall, and just as into being pursued. Very romantic, wants to hold my hand. If I don't hold his hand when he wants too....
HE PUNISHES ME FOR DAYS BY NOT RETURNING MY CALLS! I kid you not!

Good Luck, I have a cancer moon and I'm not that bad. I hope yours comes around, give him WINE!

My Saggie sister is now married to a Scorpio, but was with a Cancer for years who adored her. I asked her secret, and she said get him drunk and tie him to the bed often. Cancers love to be dominated and told what to do often.
I think she was serious, and I am ready to do that.

Hugs,
Natasha
Taurus/6th
Cancer Moon/8th
Aries Venus/5th
Sag Rising/1st
Gemini/Mercury/7th

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cancerrg
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posted August 13, 2005 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
If i could choose the worst sign for Cancer, it would have to be Aries

my cab sis is married to an aries !!!


quote:
Cancers love to be dominated and told what to do often.

wrong .
though cancers might seem submissive but they are in no way the kind of people who like to be dominated or can be dominated .the fact is cancers themselves are dominating but ofcourse in a very crabby way , you will need time to understand that they are all over you , literally .
slow poison would be an appropriate phrase to describe them.

(try dominance with your cancer friend and wait......)

why they like sags , it has a completly different explantion and reasons .

first , sags's straight forwardness and can do attitude .
second, sags normally know how to carry themselves and cancers like people who are physically fit smart people .
third , sags don't normally get involved in mind games that cancers always hate .
though therotically , they are said to be uncompatible (i think the reasons are well known) they are very very compatible as friends .


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cancerrg
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posted August 13, 2005 04:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welcome krios!!


well , about the cancer -aries relation , my own sis is married to one and shall i say it has been quite difficult to understand him for her as well as us .

i feel there are similarities in us but the means to achieve the same end are quite different .and thats what makes us two completly different people .
if it was not for astrology , i would have hated them till now , though we dont have much big difference as in case of other air or fire signs .

i would be more helpful if u could elobrate a bit more on your chemistry with him .

as lovely said , it could be the worst sign for cancers but i have a feeling it can be made a great relation if only they try to understand eachother . i am very much sure that the kind of high energy chemistry that we share sags can be very easily replicated here as well .
so, before i help u , u need to help us .

put your charts if possible , a lot of other people might help u too that way.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 13, 2005 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin is an aries and her fiance is a cancer. They are very happy together and have a daughter.


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

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krios
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posted August 13, 2005 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah...but I don't want to be boss anymore (not with him anyway) There's potential for actual compromise here....he's in "im going to figure this all out by myself, in my crab hole" mode....if I can get him to engage in mutual conversation about us...fine...but Aries is honest..to the point...so right away...there's an issue.

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krios
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posted August 13, 2005 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"put your charts up".....OK. I'm technically challenged though....how exactly would I do that? Short of a wheel....position of planets OK? Tell me what info you specifically want.

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cancerrg
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posted August 14, 2005 02:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
check out astro.com , click on the free charts on the left then click on the personal portrait , then simply moving over put your birth data . simple .

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Happy Dragon
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posted August 14, 2005 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Krios

.. web page with cancerian info ..
..1662k .. total .. potentialy printable ..
.. 1000 pixels width ..
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdpics/cn/ccr.pt.ii.html

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Azalaksh
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posted August 14, 2005 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to the forum, krios! I sure do like the way you write....."but..geez...can't you get a crab out of his hole by poking a stick in it.....where IS that stick!!! my net is ready. he's in "im going to figure this all out by myself, in my crab hole" mode"....

As for charts, here ya go:

Please go to www.astro.com. Right under the “Astrodienst Astro.com” in the blue title bar is a section called "Free Horoscopes", click on that. Under "Please select your free horoscope" choose the section headed in gray called "Horoscope Chart Drawings" and pick "Extended Chart Selection". Click on "Add a New Person" and set yourself up. Then under "please select the type of chart you want" drop-down box, choose "natal chart wheel" and click on the "click here to show the chart" button.
Once you've run that you'll have all your planetary positions (and a nice picture!).
At the "Horoscope Home" page, you can now click on "Portrait" under Astrodienst Free Horoscopes" in red. Down at the bottom of your "Short Report - Personal Portrait" is the text listing of all your planetary and house positions. Copy and paste that into here and we can begin our conversations!

'Zala

PS (edited): krios, I played a lot at the beach when I was a kid in Washington State, and turning over rocks looking for crabs was a main activity. If you poke Mr Crab with a stick, those claws are going to open up and wave in the air, ready to snap closed onto the first solid transgressor they touch! Are you ready to be clutched like that to the point of broken bones?!?!? And if you chase/herd him with that stick, he's going to head straight for the safety of deep water.....
I think that "letting go" may perhaps be a large Life-Lesson in the Cancerian scheme of things. I have a Cancer friend who STILL talks about the Love of Her Life who departed 22 years ago, but that painful day is still real and fresh to her.....to this day she is a melancholy person who continues to look back into the past, instead of kissing him goodbye forever and turning her face toward the future.....

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 14, 2005 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cancerrg, I totally agree with your first post.

I have a Cancer Moon (Libra/Cancer/Gemini), my niece (Cancer Sun, Saggie Moon, Libra Asc.) and nephew(Cancer/Scorp/Libra) are Cancers, and my dad (Cancer/Leo/Leo) is a Cancer.

Not a single one of us is interested in being dominated.

I will say that Cancer types respond well to loving tones, and emotional nourishment.

If you want something from a Cancer, take note of your tone... They will

(note, tone... same letters )

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WaterNymph
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posted August 14, 2005 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awww Cancers are lovely must admit - never met a Cancer that likes to be dominated ( I didn’t know cardinals like that ). They’re just very sweet and nice. The closest one to me is so full of energy 24/7 and always seems happy and positive.

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“Suffering is not caused by external, traumatic events, but by qualities of mind which shape our perceptions and responses to events. Accordingly, happiness is not to be found in the outer, social world, but in a transformation of mind which generates wisdom, tranquillity, and compassion.”

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Azalaksh
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posted August 14, 2005 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey NM ~

I like the new quote in your sig -- who wrote it?

HC Zala

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krios
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posted August 14, 2005 09:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK here's mine (lady Aries)
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Aries 12°34'53 07 direct
Moon Aries 23°02'24 07 direct
Mercury Pisces 29°17'46 06 retrograde
Venus Aries 27°24'40 07 direct
Mars Cancer 22°05'47 10 direct
Jupiter Libra 23°45'41 01 retrograde
Saturn Cancer 18°07'10 10 direct
Uranus Gemini 14°09'05 09 direct
Neptune Libra 07°06'25 01 retrograde
Pluto Leo 09°30'55 10/11 retrograde
Pluto is technically near the end of house 10 and is interpreted in house 11.
True Node Gemini 23°25'33 09 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 06°12'19
2nd House Scorpio 02°42'17
3rd House Sagittarius 03°26'08
Imum Coeli Capricorn 07°11'41
5th House Aquarius 10°41'15
6th House Pisces 10°44'28
Descendant Aries 06°12'19
8th House Taurus 02°42'17
9th House Gemini 03°26'08
Medium Coeli Cancer 07°11'41
11th House Leo 10°41'15
12th House Virgo 10°44'28

Major aspects
Sun Square Saturn 5°32
Sun Sextile Uranus 1°34
Sun Opposition Neptune 5°28
Sun Trine Pluto 3°04
Sun Opposition Ascendant 6°23
Moon Conjunction Venus 4°22
Moon Square Mars 0°57
Moon Opposition Jupiter 0°43
Moon Square Saturn 4°55
Venus Square Mars 5°19
Venus Opposition Jupiter 3°39
Mars Square Jupiter 1°40
Mars Conjunction Saturn 3°59
Jupiter Square Saturn 5°39
Uranus Sextile Pluto 4°38
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°25
Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 0°54
Pluto Sextile Ascendant 3°19

and Here's His (Mr.Crab)
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Cancer 23°40'07 01 direct
Moon Gemini 08°03'40 12 direct
Mercury Leo 09°32'48 02 direct
Venus Cancer 28°58'28 01/2 direct
Venus is technically near the end of house 1 and is interpreted in house 2.
Mars Virgo 02°35'52 03 direct
Jupiter Leo 28°03'33 03 direct
Saturn Cancer 03°20'44 12 direct
Uranus Gemini 11°29'51 12 direct
Neptune Libra 01°46'14 04 direct
Pluto Leo 07°53'49 02 direct
True Node Cancer 27°41'23 01 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 10°10'36
2nd House Leo 00°05'45
3rd House Leo 22°11'54
Imum Coeli Virgo 19°45'10
5th House Libra 25°07'48
6th House Sagittarius 04°52'35
Descendant Capricorn 10°10'36
8th House Aquarius 00°05'45
9th House Aquarius 22°11'54
Medium Coeli Pisces 19°45'10
11th House Aries 25°07'48
12th House Gemini 04°52'35

Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Venus 5°18
Moon Sextile Mercury 1°29
Moon Square Mars 5°28
Moon Conjunction Uranus 3°26
Moon Trine Neptune 6°17
Moon Sextile Pluto 0°10
Mercury Sextile Uranus 1°57
Mercury Conjunction Pluto 1°39
Venus Sextile Neptune 2°48
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 4°32
Mars Sextile Saturn 0°45
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 5°17
Saturn Square Neptune 1°34
Uranus Sextile Pluto 3°36

I certainly have opened up a lively discussio...thanks in advance for all input.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 14, 2005 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh, look at all those retrogrades. Both have Venus in their Sun signs, too. (I like to make random comments to help the real astrologers make their analysis )

Anyway...Cancers like to do things their way...as all Cardinal signs do. There will always be power struggle issues between you (in my opinion).

I can't help but think that given the story that's been presented here that the Cancer may be using you to prop up his ego while he deals with this breakup. I understand that you may be ready for a relationship, but is the Cancer really in the right place to start the kind of love affair you're looking for?

Always speaking caution,

AG

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 15, 2005 12:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancers like to be dominated? Says who? And by a sag? I don't think so...


well I ve never dated an aries but if you guys do get into a relationship DONT dominate him. No matter what he says he'll start to resent it.(and maybe develop a rebel w/ out a cause syndrome )

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Lauren
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posted August 15, 2005 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
umm.. I don't know if I should be posting here.. this is going to sound negative and I apologise

But here's the story.. My step dad's (cancer) ex wife of 20 years was, you guessed it Aries. It was the most horrible thing in the world for the last 15 yrs.. that much they both agree on. There was NO communication at all.. :edit: (soz I deleted this bit, prolly best if I don't go into details, makes it sound worse)
In the end all she got was bitterness and no warmth (which is something aries craves) and all he got was screaming and shouting when he was lucky enough for her to actually talk to him (when cancer craves bear hugs and kisses).. obviously this made him bitter as well so he went in his lil shell and completely stopped communicating..which only made HER angrier and led to more shouting and screaming..vicious circle

It was just a very rocky, psycho relationship..circus like and I would personally advice against it.. but I can't speak for you or this particular Cancer, specially if you have a water moon you could be more suited to each other.. Also you are both at a different age..so a bit older and wiser which helps. They started at 20, ended at 40..


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