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lioneye68
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posted August 17, 2005 12:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Everyone
Haven't posted for a while, but I hope you don't hold that against me! Lol...I have a question to ask everyone who is over 36. What happened to you when you experienced your second nodal return at 36-37? Anything significant? They say that this return is like a renewal of nodal purpose, and events beyond your control push you toward manifesting or integrating more of your north node destiny. Was this true for you? How so?
I'm just about to have this occur, in addition to Saturn square Saturn (which has now passed, but Saturn is only beginning to pick on all my Leo planets, starting with Mars in early Leo...but that's beside the point. I can find all kinds of info on Saturn tranits, but hardly a thing on Nodal Returns, hense the subject of my enquiry)

So...anybody got a nodal return story to tell?

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26taurus
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posted August 17, 2005 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lioneye! Long time no see!

Funny, I was just reading about Nodal returns. I will be having my Nodal opposition beginning at the end of March 06. It's important to pay attention to the Returns, oppositions and squares of the transiting nodes to natal nodes. I've got a book that goes into this a bit and I'll try to type some of it out for you later tonight.

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26taurus
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posted August 25, 2005 07:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
um, yeah - finally. Here's the info.
(sorry, I havent had much online time lately- dont have a computer at home)
*excuse any typos

From AstroAlchemy - Making the Most of Your Transits by Joan Negus

Chapter 9 The Moon's Nodes
Function

Like the planets, the transiting mean node axis also has a function. The nodal axis is connected with relationships. In the natal chart the signs and houses in which the nocdes are posited, along with the aspects they form with the natal planets and points, provide clues as to how we interact with others. The transiting nodal axis informs us of what others are activation within us at a particular time.

Whether a transiting planet is aspecting your natal nodes, or the transiting nodes are aspecting a natal planet, other people will be playing an important role in current situations. The difference is that if a transiting planet is activating your natal nodes, YOU will be applying the energies ascribed to the planet in your associations. Whereas the transiting nodes aspecting a natal planet indicate that SOMEONE ELSE will be triggering the principles associated with that planet within you. For example, transiting Saturn aspecting your nodes could mean that you are examining responsibilities or commitments in a relationship. The idea to do this comes from you. You are the initiator. If, however the transiting nodal axis were aspecting your natal Saturn, another person is somehow influencing you to examine your responsiblities or commitments. The thought or situation is initiated by someone else, but how you respond is still up to you.

How you might feel with nodal transits

Perhaps it is inaccurate to say that the transiting nodes by themselves symbolize or elicit certain rumblings within us. What they do is highlight feelings associated with the planet or point they are activating, as illustrated above. The sensations experienced with the nodal axis transiting Saturn were Saturnian. In other words, another individual is responsible for your examining your commitments. Had it been Uranus, someone else would have been brought forth matters pertaining to Uranus, etc. The common denominator is that the stimulus is external when the transiting nodes are involved.

How Nodal Aspects May Be Used

In spite of the fact that transits from the nodes indicate that someone is affecting you, it is still possible to use them advantageously. Being aware of the aspects allows you to know what is going to be activated within you so that you can prepare before it occurs, or at least try to direct the situation as relevant factors arise.

The nodal cycle itself can provide strong evidence of the effect others can have upon us. The nodal cycle takes 18.61 years and makes a major hard aspect to its natal position every 4.65 years. The premise here is that some relationship would have an impact on the manner in which you interact with others. With an aspect of transiting node to natal node you would not wake up one morining and, for no apparent reason, decide that today you will start dealing with people differently. Instead, outward circumstances would seem to dictate this. A study on the nodal cycle and its significance in the lives of US presidents was conducted by Ken Negus corroborating the above premise. He concentrated on the conjunctions and oppositions and found that the transiting north node conjunct or opposite natal north node in most cases coincided with events important enought to be mentioned in biographical sketches. The events ranged from entering office and getting married on the one hand, to leaving office and death on the other. Obviously some occurrences were more desirable than others, but all inferred relatiing to people or society-at-large in a different way. This is even applicable in death since that is the cessation of worldly relationships.

Although none of my clients have the impact on the world that US presidents have, they still usually experience some kind of external change in their relationships because of others, when the transiting north node conjoins and opposes the natal north node. I have also found that the squares are significant, and interpret these as much as I do the conjunctions and oppositions. The nodal return, however does seem to be the most significant aspect of the cycle.

(she goes on with a lengthy example..)
This example made me think that there might be something we can do with node aspects. Even though others may be influencing us to relat differently (as with transiting nodes to natal nodes) or to get in touch with certain functions within ourselves (transiting nodes to natal planets), perhaps a little groundwork or research in advance might be helpful. It could be that we are given clues in advance of the aspect. If we know what is likely to be activated, we can seek out people who can help us express the appropriate motifs positively, or at least prepare us for the types of situations that might arise. If we understand the issues and are channeling our various drives positively, we need not have negative experiences. Since that time I have been using that approach with clients, and most of the feedback has been positive.

(she then goes into the effects of the nodes aspecting each planet, the angles and house cusps.)

Hope you found that useful, lioneye.


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26taurus
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posted August 25, 2005 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Currently the transiting nodes (SN) are conj./oppo my Pluto. People in my life are inducing me to call upon my Plutonian 'power' - to transform.

What house and aspects are the transiting nodes currently making in your chart?

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lioneye68
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posted August 29, 2005 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, 26Taurus! You're one of the great ones, you know that?

That WAS very useful - I believe a nodal return is typically a significant time for most people.

Natally, NN trines sun & merc, sextiles moon.
Transiting NN is forming these same aspects with my natal chart because it's moving toward conjunctin my natal north node, which is about 11 degrees Aries.

Just to make things even more difficult to ponder, Venus is currently conjuncting my Libra south node. :scratches head:

Sorry, North node is in Aries, in the 4th house - South node is in Libra in the 10th house.

PS: Seems like everybody I've gotten close to in the past few years has something significant in Libra - moon or Venus or Mars or Sun...etc.

I'll have to read up on the node to planet aspects. I've become rather fixated on the subject of nodal returns. I figure they must be pre-programmed land-mine times in your life, to eithor change the projectile of it, or simply nudge you toward the themes contained in the natal N. Node.

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izodesmozina
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posted May 23, 2008 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Inner depths
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posted May 30, 2008 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My nodal return was unremarkable.....nothing happened during this event in my chart. Natally Saturn squares my nodes and MC in Aqua. (North node in the 10).

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darkdreamer
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posted May 30, 2008 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Nodal Return (took time many years ago in 1993) changed my life.


Interestingly the exact ASC-Jupiter-conjunction fell exactly onto my natal Pluto, which rules 12th house in my chart.
There was also an exact Uranus-Neptune-conjunction, which was opposite my Saturn and Vertex. And Mercury was conjunct my Vertex.
It brought complete chaos into my life.
But I know this mess and chaos and everything that followed was much needed for my own growth.

My second nodal return will occur in 2012.

It will have:
Sun and Moon in Pisces (my first nodal return also had Moon in Pisces and in my natal Neptune is exactly conjunct NN!)

Sun will be conjunct Chiron in Pisces in 12th house (and widely conjunct Neptune)

ASC will be on 29 Aries with Saturn exactly conjunct DSC and my natal Uranus

Pluto will be conjunct MC and also conjunct my natal Venus

Mars will be opposite the MOon-Mercury-conjunction.


Hmm, this doesn`t look too good, does it?

Well at least ASC and Jupiter will also be (widely) sextile Sun, Chiron and Neptune. And Saturn will trine Sun, Chiron and Neptune.
Jupiter in the 1st house will also trine Pluto in the 9th house.


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Faith
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posted February 15, 2013 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, T, for posting that. 'Still useful!

I'm going through this nowadays, with t node in Scorpio almost exactly conjunct my natal NN.

Nothing big seems to be happening at all But I'm open to the idea that what's happening in my life now might have more significance in the future, depending on how life unfolds.

Bumping the thread, hoping others want to chime in on the topic.

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charlie
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posted February 15, 2013 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sh!t hit the ceiling fan...

I'm a Scorpio NN. Conj Uranus and IC.

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