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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 06, 2005 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've recently started seeing someone. everyone tells me he is head over heels for me, but i don't know that i feel the same way yet, or that i ever will. it takes me a long time to develop feelings for someone. he is nice, and does a lot of things for me which i appreciate. however i notice he gets angry easily, over trivial things (well, i find them to be trivial.) he likes to pick fights and tells me it is because of his pride. i don't think we communicate well and he interrupts me often. i just don't think we "click" or i haven't noticed yet, but then again i havent really been in a relationship. the one thing that bothers me the most is that he is very serious, i tell him to lighten up all the time. my friend looked at his chart and all she said was it was "weird"

can anyone give me insight into him or our relationship?

my data:
sept. 6 1986, san antonio, TX 7:04 am

his:
dec. 13 1985, redding, CA 11:55 pm

thanks in advance

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gert
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posted September 06, 2005 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I havent seen either of your charts so this could be just a way off assumption.

He is a very funny person but allso strangely enough very serious.He has quite and ego that he hasn't yet managed to control and does take himself far too seriously.On the upside,he is really dependable(a little possessive) but as conservative as you are.He is not completely comfortable in his own skin as he does get paranoid about being made fun of or people laughing behind his back.He is still young so most of these insecurities will hopefully be dealt with positively as he grows older and as soon as he learns to look foolish.

You say you don't "click",understandably because he is a mediocre match.You want someone far more confident and exciting than the person he is at the moment.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted September 06, 2005 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
happy b-day!

Now for the bad news....How honest shall I be?

Ok, look, this is not a good synastry anyway you look at it. I doubt you can be happy with this guy, and I'm surprised you can even tolerate him. There are points of concern that suggest you could "slipp" into a bad relationship with this guy if you let outside influences pressure you into doing something you know on your gut level isn't right. So be careful.

Here's the deal:

In your synastry chart, there's 6 heavy duty squares, some tough conjunctions, and little easy-going, harmonious aspects:

- Sun sq Sun (you're just two very different people, and since these are mutable Suns, you irritate and make each other uneasy to readily)

- moon sq moon (not tightly squared, but still a very rough aspect, because the moon is so sensitive - both in cardinal signs, and makes it a more forceful square)

- your Merc sq his Sun (bad for communication)

- your Jupiter sq his Sun, Uranus, and Venus (a lot of incompatibilty and instability with this - Jupiter is your "lucky" planet, and a lot of harsh aspect to it can be bad news for you. I'm very concerned abotu this, since Jupiter in your 7th house - this could indicate a very bad, exploitive relationship that hurts you badly)

- his Merc conjunct your Saturn (bad enough his Merc is conjunct *his* Saturn, but also conjucnt yours? Not good at all, and with a sq your Merc too, communication between you two would be very poor)

- your Uranus conjunct his Sun (again, his Sun is conjunct his Urnaus, which makes him a bit unstable, but with your Uranus too, he'll be more erratic and not easy to understand - this falls both of your 4th houses - harsh Uranus aspects in 4th potentially indicate psychological abuse in a realtionship. This is NOT an easy aspect at all)

- his Mars conjunct Your Venus (and respectively conjunct each other's Pluto - more potential for abuse, and also exploitation, espeically by him. He may even be obsessed with you, but looking at the rest of your synastry and his chart, i doubt he's "head over heel" in *love* - just obsessed, and probably just for sex. My frank advice: STAY AWAY FROM HIM)

There almost nothing that positive I can say about planet-to-planet aspects. Your house placements aren't so hot either. In addition tot he Uranus-Sun-4th house issue (which I would take very seriously), there's also the fact that your Sun, a mutable and introverted Virgo Sun, falls in his 12th. Many astrologer feel that when A's Sun falls in B's 12th, there's a too high probablity that the relationship will be bad for the Sun person. It's like the Sun gets "sucked" into the 12th house of the other person, where it loses its sense of self and self-possession. The potential for a codependant, if not abusive relationship runs very high. I personally feel that anyone who is not older (past 35), very mature, and very strong in their sense of self as expressed through their Sun sign, ought to avoid these kind of relationships (and while I know Virgos like to hink they know themselves, honesty, you're young, and you're more vulnerable than you realize). I rarely am so stern, but the power of the 12th house ought not be taken lightly.

Now I've explained why you personally ought to seriously consider to pass on this guy (and I urge you heartily - you're young, there's more guys out there), let me say a few things about *him* specifically: he's a jerk. I hate to rag on Cap moons as I have so in past, but if this guy's a Sag Sun, conjunct Uranus, with a Cap moon, then yikes! He's got some pretty tough stuff going on in his chart, and he's probably incredibly full of himself too. Don't listen to your freinds - he probably is really good at fooling people into thinking his motives are sincere and kind, but I can't see how, at his age, he's anything but a selfish jerk. Give yourself a b-day gift and get rid of him, girl.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 06, 2005 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's heavy. Thanks for typing all of that Well, I was kind of suckered into the relationship. His brother is dating my best friend, and he practically begged me to be his girlfriend. After much indecisiveness, he became slightly irritated which bothered me. He asked me what I had to lose, and I thought about it and how uncomfortable I am in relationships. I decided to take a chance. He is always willing to get me anything I want or need which I appreciate but I don't think we connect sexually (although he was my first), spiritually, intellectually, etc.

I just want to see where this goes, even though I think I might be making a mistake. However, he's friends with all of my friends too, and I don't want to look like the "bad guy" I try to tell him he doesn't have to buy me things all the time but it's hard because I have no money at all but at the same time I hate to be a "taker"

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sthenri
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posted September 06, 2005 08:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you look more like the bad guy by stringing him along as he may take it badly when you do end it. He wont end it on his own, and its' a lesson in life, men usually push the buttons until you end it no matter how. So in the end it will be up to you to pick the poison, you will have to do the rejecting, no doubt about it.

might as well, get started with a strategy now, if it bothers you don't let him buy you things, whether you need them or not others can do for you.
Otherwise he will think he is entitled and never let you forget it, money, sex, jealousy, are controls, do not let anyone get to you like that.

and your friends will stick up for you,

Natasha
Taurus/6th house

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sthenri
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posted September 06, 2005 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiNymph is there any way I can talk you into asking you to email me at innerchildtheone@yahoo.com?
I am contemplating something and I need advice before I make the leap, you should be able to answer in a microsecond but I am shy due to the fact I will mention someone who reads this board.

Thank you,
Natasha

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pixelpixie
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posted September 06, 2005 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well.............

Gemini Nymph summed it up beautifully astrologically..
So my two cents is from you~

"everyone tells me he is head over heels for me, but i don't know that i feel the same way yet, or that i ever will."

"i notice he gets angry easily, over trivial things "

"he likes to pick fights and tells me it is because of his pride. "


"i don't think we communicate well and he interrupts me often"

"i just don't think we "click" "

"he practically begged me to be his girlfriend. After much indecisiveness, he became slightly irritated which bothered me. "

"I think I might be making a mistake"

No one can say it better than you.

Awkward, schmawkward.. He asked you to give him a chance.. You did.
It won't work.
He isn't right for you.
But he is making you realize what you *don't* want.. store it for later, when what you *do* want comes along.
Then you will recognize it.
Doesn't have to be too awkward..... If it isn't working, being polite or staying because of a situation won't make it better... only prolong what you know to be wrong.


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Aen
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posted September 07, 2005 03:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to ax in but

quote:
Many astrologer feel that when A's Sun falls in B's 12th, there's a too high probablity that the relationship will be bad for the Sun person. It's like the Sun gets "sucked" into the 12th house of the other person, where it loses its sense of self and self-possession.

Amen! Strongly agree to that. I haven't been 'the Sun person', but '12th hs person' for few times. From that perspective it looks like lights went suddenly off and the Sun-person suddenly can't find the exit door and are now there silently waiting for some sort of miracle for deliverance. I have Moon/Pluto in 12th so it adds to deep darkness factor considerably. And since I hate it when people get stuck into my private territory feeling uncomfortable, I just rapidly escort them out.

And then they begin to analyze 'what just happened'.....

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No hesitation. No regret. No looking back.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 09, 2005 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Bump

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 09, 2005 08:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wish i could be a penguin.........penguins are kewl

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