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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 09, 2005 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i hate when something happens to me it happens all at once. i lost my job on my birthday, i'm in a relationship that i'm not sure is very productive with my health and well being, i'm completely broke, madly in love with a girl who probably can't return my affections (note the probably- just wishful thinking) and questioning my sexuality, have substance abuse problems (well that's what my counselor says)

being 19 is hard, but i also said that about 18. and 17 and 16......i like to complain i guess. do all virgos complain like this, or is it just me?

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Gemini Nymph
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posted September 09, 2005 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Virgos tend to b*tch a lot. Some astrologers consider Virgo the b*tchiest of signs. Like any earth sign, they are oversensitive to things that causes them personal discomfort, and being one of the Mercurials, they often are very eager to communciate that discomfort.

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proxieme
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posted September 09, 2005 10:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry, d_m - While ya'll Virgos are over there b*tching, us Fish'll be over here whiiining our days away

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proxieme
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posted September 09, 2005 10:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Myyyy fin is bent.
Nooobooody understannnds my fin...
Nobody, I tell you.
My fin is special, and unique, and - oh, oh, the agony of my fin's wonderful, trancendant connection with all of the sea! With all of the universe! It's so beautifully painful, so peace-full-y terrible..."

Your turn.
What're you saying about the sacred sanctity of yourself?

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proxieme
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posted September 09, 2005 11:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW - I am sorry to hear that your last bit of time has blown.
I know that you've not had an easy time of it at all.
(How is it that you only have 737 posts? Somehow you seemed to fill up the forum much more than that once upon a time ago.)

If you do feel the need to complain, to lay it bare, do it here ~
We can make this your official b*tching thread if you wish.
It seems as if you have legitimate cause.

Cross my chest and hope to cry, I shall listen to and commiserate with you over your head and heart aches.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 10, 2005 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

the official b*tching thread...in honor of me haha well everyone has a right to b*tch esp. us virgoans

yeah well i used to post a lot more, but it was a simpler time. yes. anyway yea, c'mon people, don't let me do all the complaining! i know you all have something to say!

p.s. i love you pisceans.....if anyone can sympathize, it's a pisces

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virgo
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posted September 10, 2005 03:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey man...I'm a virgo..i just turned 19 and my best friend aqua says i ***** alot..and its true..its because they are so super sensitive. Most of the time when I ***** its about acting/art/entertainment industry. (im an actor so i get ****** off the way the art is treated and actors are treated and how some actors think). and I will go on forever about it in details. haha so yeah i guess we do ***** a lot. but for different reasons.

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steelrose
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posted September 10, 2005 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Virgo bitching-moaning-whining thread, a very good idea… Yes, I suppose I’m good at this… But I speak it out only when I’m too frustrated and in pain to bear it. I usually keep it silent because I tend to consider that nobody really cares about my little miseries. And because I try to light up others instead of burdening them., everybody has their problems… Also because I tend to think that it could be worse so I have no right to complain… But it feels so relieving when I do…

OK, Dorkus, let’s do some moaning... It’s healthy once and again… And anyway, we will be all doing it…

I’m just about to turn 28 and my emotional life is still going nowhere. My whole life, to be more precise, is going nowhere and I don’t know what to do with it. My love life is a complete failure. Better not to talk about my family. I haven’t been in love for 7 years and I don’t feel able to anymore. My only relationship was a complete disaster and ended 10 months ago after a year of emotional and psychological torture. I still miss the scarce moments of intimacy when he was sweet and caring towards me because that was the closest to feeling loved. I recently got in touch with the man I always thought I loved, my first love, and he is not showing any interest towards me. The only thing that I have now is my job so I try to fill my life with it: It leads me abroad next year, which means 2 years of a exicing professional life but also of deep loneliness. I have been there before. I will be back in my early thirties still alone, when all my friends will be married with children and no time for a sad spinster. The saddest of all is that the only thing I can do is ignoring all this. I block it and try not to think about it. Because it tears my soul doing it. I’m locking myself in. I’m living an empty life, getting up every morning to breathe and go back to bed at night.

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sthenri
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posted September 10, 2005 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Direction and purpose are really important to virgos, its' good to keep sight of an agenda.

I have a sixth house sun and what I do is keep a collage of my dreams on a poster board. I cut out pictures of where I want to be and want to be doing if I am not happy and glue stick to the poster board in an attractive way (im a taurus)
Every few months I change it. If the poster board is not up I am not happy.

Keeping sight of that agenda is very hard to do because of the mercury influence.

I also have many planets in virgo and a virgo midheaven.

I love my posterboard because it's silly but it makes me feel less alone in my agenda.

Love sucks for me too, and I have given up on b/f only friends that are boys.

I get along with Cancers, and Libras and people who have pets and fish. Cancers are full of pep, and Libras have purpose.

Find a direction and go there but be happy to allow change too.

My love life took a turn for the worse this week, when a cancer I liked starting acting distant and then a girl at work who is dating a lot showing up smelling like him. if you know what I mean.

I hate being this sensitive so I turn it outwards now. Painting, and drawing, sewing helps. Right now I am going to work on my house and then shop, I did meet a new girl who likes to take walks too, she and I were both in a bad car accident this summer and she's a nurse.

Trust me I question my sexuality all the time at 36, and I've been married twice.

The other day a girl hit on me in the grocery store and I let her, why not? But I don't let it get me off track, I want a career and fun but not necessary with one man anymore. Children and marriage are not for me at this point,

The closest I have come to commitment is with a Cancer, or Cancer ascendant, Taurus moon, or a Aquarius Sun, Venus or Mars.

Natasha
Taurus/6th
Cancer Moon/8th

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 10, 2005 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*hugs*

well i guess we're not alone in feeling so alone........

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moonshine
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posted September 10, 2005 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, another moany virgo here

Perhaps we virgos are pre-programmed to see the glass as always half-empty. My love life is too pointless to mention.. im 34,still single, I've just spent my birthday weekend fighting with two of my friends.. and i have so few friends I cant afford to lose two at once!

I was with a man for six years on and off but was unable to really get through to him - or really let him in. I just wasnt able to. I dont know if i ever will be able to.

Steel rose I so relate to what you said.. about the blocking things out and locking myself in.. i do that too, i guess its a survival mechanism.. helps me get through my life.. (but for what?) I read in Linda's book that virgos have a "curious waiting quality" and I think thats true in my case.. I feel I have been waiting my whole life - for my life to start, or for something to happen to shake me up. Until that happens I prefer to live in my dreams, where everything is always perfect and i dont have to face the reality of my life. Sad innit?

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 12, 2005 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonshine,

we sound a lot alike. i too have this problem of letting people in....and waiting for my life to start. i hesitate to initiate any sort of direction; i'm afraid.

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luisbunuel
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posted September 12, 2005 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, it was my birthday on Saturday. Of course, being a Virgo, I didn't feel it had to be "celebrated" in any way.

It is said that Virgos gain confidence as they age. Linda Goodman also wrote about Vulcan being identified as the ruler of Virgo, rather than flighty Mercury.

I'm 31 and I think that life is much better now than it was when I was in my early twenties and early teens.

Dorkus, word of advice, if you want it - Don't wait around. Whatever it is that you're waiting for, go and get it NOW!

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luisbunuel
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posted September 12, 2005 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS Dorkus, funnily enough, in 1997, I lost my temporary job a few days before my birthday so I do empathise with what you feel.

I found another one later but was it depressing at the time!

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posted September 12, 2005 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone! not posted too often- still new - but I have learned so much from you- trying to learn about myself. As of late, discontent would not even touch what is going on around me and within myself. I can hardly breathe. Every where it is all seemingly falling apart and I feel powerless to stop it. I have heavy earth in my chart- Only 2 house positions in air- thats it. What does it mean when someone is seriously lacking air?
sun-virgo 7th
moon- aries 3rd
venus- virgo 7th retro
mercury- virgo 7th
mars- scorpio- 10th
jupiter- leo 7th
Saturn- aries- 2nd retro (most unfortunate)
uranus- virgo- 8th
Neptune- scorpio 10th
pluto- virgo -8th
True node - Aries 3rd retro
Asc- cap
Is it my retro Venus that is causing so much turmoil with my partner of 18 years? Is it my bad Saturn placement or that everything is bunched up in the 7th? No harmony anywhere right now!! Help!PS I chose this thread because its a Virgo complaing one!!

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steelrose
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posted September 12, 2005 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi girls

Wow… This moaning thing works… Sometimes I need to be understood instead of understanding. It makes a good change. My ex was a Scorp and gave no sympathy or whatsoever, when I only had him, on my own in a foreign country with no friends… Because I left them behind in a different town for him. One of the worst times of my life and he only would say “Stop moaning, woman…” and then switch off.

And then people tend to say “Well, you don’t seem to be that bad…” really astounded when I shyly mention how down I feel… I’m surrounded by fire types, and they are lovely enthusiastic and passionate people… but so unaware sometimes… I feel so drained… And I keep trying to light up things, I suppose trying to believe my fake optimism myself.

Natasha, you are so right… We need purpose, we need to feel productive, to feel that we are building something… Without that we feel lost and worthless. I like that idea of the poster board… I once was thrilled with that film about sewing a quilt with images of dreams (don’t remember the film name... with Winnona Ryder). I’ve done something similar when I need to focus: writing reasons why I should do something and pin it somewhere I could read everyday… I did that when I decided to leave my ex behind and come back here. I used to draw my images of a dreamt future..

The trouble now is that I don’t have dreams. I’ve been lost for too long, I’m disoriented… As if I didn’t care anymore. I just get up and breathe everyday every single day. I’m terrified of dreaming for myself and I dream for others… I imagine I’m another person, with a different life, someone who can be what I want to be, who isn’t denied the chance…

Moonshine, it’s so true!!! I’ve a lot of acquintances but little true friends. So I can’t really afford to lose any due to silly fights… Yes, I suppose I’m also waiting for a miracle… I need something to change, I need my life to start… And I’m almost 28 and it hasn’t even got close…

Luisbunuel (Did you know that’s the name of a famous Spanish film director?), I sympathise with that “not wanting to celebrate your birthday”… I never wanted to since my teens. I hated it. Celebrating what? My life was still rubish… And I didn’t want another year of the same stuff. I must admit I suffer less now, living is easier to endure the older I get… Still empty, though… And wishing for a change with my whole heart.

Stargazer, Earth will make you practical and heavy, slow, plodding along in life… It will make you an achiever due to your patience… But also heavy, heavy, heavy… No air means you are even less volatile… You have trouble theorising, dreaming away, feeling like a little butterfly floating around. You are like a stone firm on the ground and it’s tough to light you up. You are not an idealist, you want results. Abstract thinking is not your strength.

Don’t worry about Saturn retro… I find it a beautiful position for Saturn. It’s one of the few planets that is confy being retro. It makes you wise and deep, mature and interesting… I’d worry for Venus retro… In Virgo as well… Do you repress your emotions, do you find serious problems expressing your feelings, do you get paranoid of getting hurt in love, do you feel unworthy of love?

Do you often let your partner know that you love him? You probably need to express more to make him feel important... Venus retro are always waiting a blow in love, to be abandoned, so they need 10000 tests to be sure their partners care leaving them in the dark... They tend to lose them before they realise how much they love them...

Just a thought... Any feedback?

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posted September 12, 2005 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey d_m... Well, the easy thing to say is that you need to get out of the unhealthy relationship with the Saggie. He just isn't good for you and I am thinking part of the reason you are feeling unhappy is because you may NOT like dudes.

If you are having intense feelings for a woman, then sit back and evaluate those emotions (without being tied to a guy). If you find that you want to be with that person, maybe see how she feels (rejection happens whether the object of ones desires is the same or opposite sex).

I haven't ever been in your situation but I have many friends that have struggled with their sexuality and then realized that they were either gay or straight. What if the substance abuse, depression...etc.. is a result of not recognizing that you are actually into women? I had a dear friend that struggled with many of the same issues, but when he acknowledged his sexuality, it was like a light went on. He is not the same person he was person and loves life.

Then again, it may be a passing phase, but only you will know that and only after that careful Virgo deliberation and analysis.

Just be true to yourself.

Happy birthday and I am sorry you lost your job

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 12, 2005 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Pid

Well thanks for the advice. I am starting to realize the directions I want my life to go, and the steps I need to get there.

Mr. Sag and I had a discussion about our relationship. In his words he might be "taking the relationship too seriously." I can't bring myself to say to him that I might not feel as strongly about him as he does me. But i'm going to have to. He became angered, and my friends, a bit disheartened at the prospect of me going back to Sacramento for a while for job training, etc. Well, angered might not be the best thing to describe his attitude, but he was upset.

All that I know is that I don't quite feel like myself, like I have to leave even though it means leaving my best friend and all of the people that I know. I'm stuck in this small town with no job, and a high school education.

I was going to tell my friend the way that I feel but I've waited too long, she's seeing someone and I could never disrupt that. I recently told her about my sexuality and she said it was cool. But somehow she seemed surprised. I don't want to leave her but I have to remember it won't be forever.

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sthenri
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posted September 12, 2005 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dk, I like the fact that you are going for job training and telling people how you feel is good. You sound purposeful:>

I recently had to decide on a friendship or work and chose work and I'm not sorry, even though it hurt at first.

Steelrose,
dreams are not ideal things, they are about the nitty gritty, indulge in a few dreams that seem worthless and then pin them up somewhere. Analyze them, criticize them, tear them down if you want and start over, as much as you want.

Natasha

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posted September 12, 2005 10:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're 19, wait three or four years and things will be better... Seriously. You are moving away from the teenage world you know and entering the adult world... Look at your friends, they probably have the same problems.

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posted September 12, 2005 11:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And BTW, Virgos complain because they have a sense or perfection, and when they compare their reality with this ideal perfection start complaining.

BUT there is other kind... The kind that never admits there's a problem... They can be living the worst nightmare and will always tell you everything's OK (or "perfect"). I prefer the first ones, the second ones are almost sychopats...

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 13, 2005 12:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sthenri,

hehe...purposeful, i like that i didn't want to have to choose, and i'm not sacrificing any friendships...especially one in particular. i'm pretty set on going, but there are some people i have to talk to first (and it's going to hurt)luckily, i will never be too far away from my friends.....

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posted September 13, 2005 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
steelerose- Thanks for your reply- I know retro venus is tough but not a total loss. I feel much better today even though nothing around me has changed yet. I guess the key word is "yet". Change can only start with me. One of my favorite quotes is "The only limits are those of vision". I don't know who said it but it rings loudly inside me. I always seem to find a way back to it. To first pause and be grateful and then to look forward to what I want my world to be about. I think it takes great courage to leave what you know and follow your heart. I think we Virgos tend to get in a signature rut. We need to be needed when we'd do better to want to be wanted. We are indeed Ms. Fix-it. Someone who needs no fixing but still has those in-the-rough qualities forces us to reallocate that energy- into a shared bond on all levels. Not an easy ticket to fill. But worth the wait. When I was in my 20's I was always attracted to men on the basis of their potential-whom they might become, rather than who they were already. I could help them get there or so I thought. It wasn't until I was in my 30's that this became the apparent reason for failure in relationship never-never land. So don't despair guys it always starts with you- and that is always the brightside. If you haven't seen "Under the Tuscan Sun" with Diane Lane (a beautiful Cancer)- you should. When I read your post,steelerose, I immediately thought of the character she portrayed. Maybe coming from something different but in the same mood. hehe. Its funny, but when I read your reply on my venus placement, I see those things in my partner(cancer). He is very insecure right now and I do know why but wasn't really expecting all the jealousy and its tag-a-long traits. I have this independent streak a mile wide. The claws are hard on me. I hope to strike up yet another compromise. We'll see.
Venting again, Stargazer

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I’m just about to turn 28 and my emotional life is still going nowhere. My whole life, to be more precise, is going nowhere and I don’t know what to do with it. My love life is a complete failure. Better not to talk about my family. I haven’t been in love for 7 years and I don’t feel able to anymore. My only relationship was a complete disaster and ended 10 months ago after a year of emotional and psychological torture. I still miss the scarce moments of intimacy when he was sweet and caring towards me because that was the closest to feeling loved. I recently got in touch with the man I always thought I loved, my first love, and he is not showing any interest towards me. The only thing that I have now is my job so I try to fill my life with it: It leads me abroad next year, which means 2 years of a exicing professional life but also of deep loneliness. I have been there before. I will be back in my early thirties still alone, when all my friends will be married with children and no time for a sad spinster. The saddest of all is that the only thing I can do is ignoring all this. I block it and try not to think about it. Because it tears my soul doing it. I’m locking myself in. I’m living an empty life, getting up every morning to breathe and go back to bed at night.
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This sounds like Roger Waters life when he composed "The Wall" (the guy from Pink Floyd).

He's a Virgo too BTW.

Tear down the wall!

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posted September 13, 2005 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plant your own garden instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers......

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