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thosa
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posted September 27, 2005 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello folks,

just wanted to ask, what is the significance of an ascendant-ruler?

Fx, my asc is in virgo, it's ruler is mercury, which fx squares my moon...

now since my ASC-ruler squares my moon, does that also somehow make my ascendant square my moon or what?

simply put, what relation does the ascendant have with the ascendant-ruler?

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geminirising26
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posted September 29, 2005 06:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Thosa!

I am but an amateur in Astrology, but:

Being that your rising sign is Virgo, and it's ruler Mercury is very important in your chart. Therefore, any aspects that it makes to other planets are very important because your rising sign is next in importance after your sun sign.

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Sajittarius
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posted September 30, 2005 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some astrologers place the ruler of your ascendant higher than the ruler of your sun sign. In your case this doesnt make your ascendant square your moon, unless your moon happens to be at the top or bottom of your chart and really is square to it. But you should look in your chart and see what sign mercury is in, and if mercury is angled to other planets (such as squaring your moon). By itself, Mercury squaring the Moon means something (im not sure exactly what, i havent gone that deep in studying). The fact that mercury rules your rising sign makes this Mercury-Moon even more important. Also the fact that you have Virgo rising means something, this is how you relate to the outside world and the first impression people get of you.

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posted October 12, 2005 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Sajittarius

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lalalinda
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posted October 12, 2005 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi thosa,

The ruler of the Asc. is very important, it shows how well you integrate the different areas of your life.

Your square between the Moon and Mercury (your ruler) shows difficulties intergrating your Asc. (your self) and the area of the chart that the Moon rules (what house cusp does Cancer rule?)

Easy aspects between your Ascendant ruler and another planet shows an ease in running what ever house that planet rules.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted October 12, 2005 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey question here,

what would it mean if your asc ruler was in your 12th house. Is that bad?

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amisha121877
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posted October 13, 2005 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonduchess,
you can check out http://www.rosicrucian.com/sia/siaeng17.htm

hope it helps.

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lalalinda
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posted October 13, 2005 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello moon duchess,

It depends on the ruler.

Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune are happy in the 12th house.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted October 13, 2005 07:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uh oh, what about saturn?

*oh, thanks for the article Amisha, good insights in there

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Loopy24
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posted October 14, 2005 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Forgive my stupidity but I have ascendant in capricorn conjunct neptune. So would my asc ruler be saturn or neptune. I have saturn in the 9th and neptune in the 12th.

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Aen
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posted October 14, 2005 12:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I have ascendant in capricorn conjunct neptune. So would my asc ruler be saturn or neptune.

Saturn.

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Loopy24
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posted October 17, 2005 07:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Aeon. So I read somewhere (on here probably) that you read about the sign that is placed in the ascendant ruler i.e. i have saturn in libra. What significance does that have? Does it make you take on those traits or ??

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TheEvolution
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posted October 17, 2005 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the planet ruiling the sign that forms the ascendant is called chart ruler (lagnesh in hindu/vedic astrology).

it is the most important thing in ur chart if put at mundane level. its position, strenght, aspects and own default qualities will decide a lot about ur behaviour.

if don't know what 'ascendant's ruler' is. i think what ur asking for is chart ruler, right?

anyway, post ur chart and i'll tell u what we can conclude from it as per indian and western astro. then condier both and c which is more revealing. that way we will come to know if the concept of lagnesh is important as described in vedas. and also as to which chart (western/indian) u should refer to when thinking about the lagnesh.

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thosa
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posted October 17, 2005 05:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Cancer 27°51'05 10 direct
Moon Libra 08°38'22 01 direct
Mercury Cancer 12°57'14 10 direct
Venus Gemini 18°11'02 09 direct
Mars Aries 02°52'15 07 direct
Jupiter Taurus 29°43'05 09 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 27°12'07 04 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 27°53'56 04 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 08°17'12 04 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 09°45'33 02 stationary (D)
True Node Pisces 15°02'13 06 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 25°37'32
2nd House Libra 17°54'10
3rd House Scorpio 17°04'39
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 23°58'31
5th House Aquarius 01°46'16
6th House Pisces 02°09'48
Descendant Pisces 25°37'32
8th House Aries 17°54'10
9th House Taurus 17°04'39
Medium Coeli Gemini 23°58'31
11th House Leo 01°46'16
12th House Virgo 02°09'48

Major aspects
Sun Trine Mars 5°01
Sun Sextile Jupiter 1°52
Sun Quincunx Saturn 0°39
Sun Quincunx Uranus 0°03
Sun Sextile Ascendant 2°14
Moon Square Mercury 4°19
Moon Opposition Mars 5°46
Moon Square Neptune 0°21
Mercury Opposition Neptune 4°40
Mercury Trine Pluto 3°12
Mars Sextile Jupiter 3°09
Mars Square Saturn 5°40
Mars Square Uranus 4°58
Mars Square Neptune 5°25
Jupiter Quincunx Saturn 2°31
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 1°49
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 4°06
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 0°42
Saturn Square Ascendant 1°35
Uranus Square Ascendant 2°16
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°28

Well here it is, so can u tell me anything abt my ascendant and how it's ruler's aspects affect me??(thx in advance)

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sthenri
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posted October 17, 2005 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thosa, Mercury is your chart ruler. You will come off as a Gemini or Virgo to people and are quick, agile and work with your hands. I bet you like to talk but can be emotional as your ruler is in Cancer. Family and parenting are goals at some point.

If your tenth house is ruled by Cancer, then you have some juggling to do with your career and may feel overwhelmed at the choices you have to make. It's important to choose a mate who is intellectual, smart, and has your respect.

Are you scientific, logical, and at the same loyal and giving?

I recommend going into a field where you help people but not where you get overwhelmed by their needs. Setting boudaries can be tough.

Natasha
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Cancer Moon
(My chart ruler is Jupiter, my Jupiter is in Virgo in the 10th house)

I have noticed opposites attract in chart rulers, so I meet up with many mercury ruled people and we help each other career wise.

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TheEvolution
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posted October 17, 2005 11:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
umm...can u just give me ur date and time of birth? place also offcourse..

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thosa
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posted October 18, 2005 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sthenri:

yes I'm emotional, but don't like to show it and I do think I hide it well.
My 10th house is ruled by Cancer? I thought it was ruled by Gemini..
About the career thing, thx for the tip, but I have a lot of time right now to decide what I wanna do, cuz I'm still in college, but yes I do think I wanna do some service-job(MAYBE, only if I have the possibility of sometime becoming an authority figure in that field).

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posted October 18, 2005 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aspects to ASC
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/ascendant-aspects.php

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It all depends on how we look at things, and not how they are in themselves.
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thosa
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posted October 18, 2005 06:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know everything about aspects to the ascendant, but what I wanna know is if mercury's(asc.ruler) aspects have anything to do with my virgo asc. Very simple question, just a lil hard for myself to answer.

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posted October 18, 2005 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
if mercury's(asc.ruler) aspects have anything to do with my virgo asc

ACS ruler's aspects have to do with your self-expression and ASC ruler has to do with your ASC if it makes aspects to ASC.

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The ruler of the sign on the ascendant is the 'chart ruler.' It is a key planet in the horoscope because the ascendant is the most personal point in the chart. It's sign, house placement and the aspects it makes to other planets explain how you express YOU!

How does your 2nd house ruler affect your 2nd house cusp?? Hmm, it's a very virgoan question

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TheEvolution
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posted October 18, 2005 07:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks thosa. give me some time.

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thosa
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posted October 20, 2005 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I don't sound impatient, but when are ya gonna be done?:P

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TheEvolution
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posted October 20, 2005 10:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 more day dude!

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TheEvolution
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posted October 21, 2005 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a layman's interpretation...

hi thosa. ur essentially a mericurial person. ur ascendant is virgo and ur moon is also there ie. in first house. so ur sign is kanya or virgo. ur sign as well as ascendant ruler being same u have little in complication when it comes to ur behaviour. now, ur chart as well sa sign ruler mercury is well placed in gemini, its own sign. in indain astrology its called being swagrahi (in self's house). besides that it is it is in the friendly 10th house of career and business. it seems u will do bussiness or service related to communication, programming, journalism, photography and things relatd to mercury. though the chart still remains to be analysed completely. but primarily u seem to be a thoughful practical and skilfull person. u seek practicality as first hand rather than ideas. ur ideas are also very practical in the sense that they are not out of the blue.

careerwise u can be very sucessfull if u choose careers related to mercury or gemini. ur 10th house is ruled by mercury and thats also where ur mercury is. so, there is no problem there at all.

there is so much to write on mercury itslelf. it is perhaps ur prime planet. involev ur self in more than one tasks at a time and don't get bogged down by sily indian ideas of being stable with only one thing at a time. concentration is not an issue as u have that to a superb degree. "versatility is the spice of ur life."

moon square mercury. or mercury's 4th drashti on moon. thought and emotions are well balanced overriding the effects of the square because the sign where moon is belongs to mercury. and moon is comfortable with emotions with virgo.

virgo asc. neatness and tideness, perfection, class and elan and dignity are your choices in life. though u often behave as if ur untidy andunorganised. its typical to virgo asc behaviour. u often let the more flashy individuals take a higher stance but in a calculated way. letting others use u is not ur idea at all.its just that ur default design is to be pracitcal and getting ur work down. so what is u have to satify the otherperson's ego.

somehow ur screen name is more gemini (notorious) like than virgo! thosa = fart right??? lol.

oh yes ur also playful and light hearted. let me know about how right is my take on gemini, virgo and the dignified mercury in ur chart...

moving on...

we will not consider uranus, neptune and pluto. they are too comlicated for a beginer like me!

wow this is awesome! ur venus, the ruler of 2nd house (lirba) is in taurus. thus swagrahi! dignified. though it is not at conjunction with jupiter but jupiter is taurus find a stable platofrm to work on. oth combined they empower ur 9th house of higher intellectual studies and foreign travel. lets go step by step.

the ruler of the 2nd house being dignified in 9th u can have moeny ganied by investments in stocks, in foreign exchange, in preperty (because the 9th house is taurus and well lit byu jupiter). a theme is being foremed. ur perspective is of at a global level. if u choose a mercury related profession u will end up doing it on a large scale. say being a journalist for many leading international newspapers or maybe an international media channel like cnn or bbc. u will own property at many places around the globe. while u might think right now at a local level (mercury) ur life will be on a global level eventually. it will be a chain of successfull events. let me know what ur currently doing in life and how much i'm right about the above.

remember the primary theme is mercury. jupiter and venus here are just theme enhancers.

mars in 7th in pisces. ruler of pisces stable in tuarus and sextile mars. ur spouse will be flashy, outgoing, energetic, and impulsive. thanks to ur virgo asc u will be defending her ego and drive rather than being that stupid old indian male making her submit to ur family. but within ur spuose would be there for ur family and home. just that she will be impulsive, egoistic and stubborn. soothe it with mercury practiclity. also, she will be ready to be on the move with u while ur on work but only if she find the work is of a considerable value. remember, it seems that she will not be practical.never mind, these are just primary indications about her from your chart's 7th house. rest depends on her.

saturn in sag in 4th. they say satrun brings trouble which ever house it is in. but when it comes to gemini and sag no planets are at fall. so isn't saturn. infact saturn trine jupiter (ruler of sag) shows u have an excpetionally good relationship with ur father and mother. my basic knowledge says there were no troubles. also, ur parents have lifted u up from the negatives of mercury theme (over practicality and getting bogged down with details) and given u a fine sense of duty on a philopshial level.

hell man! have u made up this chart? lol! i just don't see any negatives. oh man! i fear to be proven wrong!!! lol.

rahu = NN and ketu = SN

do u suffer from constipation? rahu in aquarius in 6th indicates so. offcourse i'm sonsidering that rahu is only negative. let me chek out the qualities of rahu in aquarius...

the internet says rahu is well placed in aquairus. thus automatically ketu becomes well placed. my experience with rahu is it tends to make u leave things half way. search for what the 6th house indicates in indian astro and see if the positves of rahu are highlightened (seeing projects through) or the negatives (leaving things halfway). so let me know please.

u can be little selfish with ur friends. espcially with those who relaly care for u. offcoruse also u like group work and ur creative side is revealed when working with friends. a weak sun in cancer indicates ur possive about certain things and want to not let go easily. offcourse it that is a very feable effect.

jupiter sextile sun and mars trine sun. a good theme suggesting enterprising ability along with a happy nature. just don't let ur ego get overboard. although it is not likley even in worst case senarious because primarily ur mercury ruled. and these over charged planets make no strong aspects to mercury.

conclusion: thought before action is the mantra of ur life and ur overall chart shows smooth ascpects.

in case of defficulties in life u can refer to the vimshottari dasha and mahadasha. ur base is smooth although.

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TheEvolution
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posted October 21, 2005 02:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know how i forgot about moon opp. mars in ur chart. it is a very important consideration. but i'll have to study ur chart again. instead just google for moon opp. mars and read it. if i get time to see ur chart again i'll let u know what it indicates.

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