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geminirising26
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posted September 29, 2005 06:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!
I need help!

I don't understand the T-Square, Grand Trine, Rectangle or Yod things that Bob Marks Astrologer is talking about.I feel silly but, can someone either:
1.) Explain these things in way I can get and/0r

2.) Look at my chart and see if I have these things...

I would really appreciate it!
Thanks! :-)

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geminirising26
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posted September 29, 2005 07:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, it would probably help if I posted the chart...lol.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_ew0filexhNfAH-u1122874067.84105.7536.gif&res=100&va=

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DragonflyAries
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posted September 30, 2005 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the Grand Trine is that big blue triangle - with all the sides being the same length - between your Midheaven, Ascendant and your Mars/Pluto conjunction. There are some that only consider these "big" aspects if there are planets involved however, but the Asc and MC are important angles, so I think it's valid. Now if you look on the right side of the chart, you'll see another triangle right beside your Grand Trine... this makes it a Kite formation. Still haven't found much good info on kites... the only thing that seems to be said is that it gives focus to the energy of a Grand Trine, encouraging you to actually do something with it.

You don't seem to have any T-Squares, but on an astro.com chart, they would be red triangles with one long side, and 2 sides the same length. A Grand Cross would be 2 oppositions, making a "plus" sign in the chart. No Mystic Rectangles either: that one's pretty self-explanatory, looks like a perfect rectangle drawn in the chart lines.

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wilsontc
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posted September 30, 2005 01:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini,

The easiest way to think of these aspect patterns as different types of FOCUSES of chart energy:
- The T-Square focuses energy toward the planet(s)/point(s) where the two square aspects meet

- The Grand Trine easily focuses energy around the three planets/points

- The Grand Cross (Rectangle) stressfully focuses energy around the four planets/points

- The Yod focuses energy on the planet/point where the quincunxes meet

As mentioned, you have a Kite focused on your Mercury (thinking/daily work), Neptune (spirituality), Jupiter (expansion), and Descendant (others) stellium (collection of energy).

Focusing,

Tim

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Neptune's Muse
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posted September 30, 2005 03:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiRising,

This is a good thread with links as well to assist you in understandng the ever scary terms!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005799.html

Smiles,

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Mystic Gemini
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posted September 30, 2005 06:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry gemini rising. You are not the only one.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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geminirising26
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posted September 30, 2005 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! Thanks Dragon, I really appreciate it. I figured that blue triangle was something. But people always referred to Grand Trines in terms of planets, not regarding the MC, AC and what not. But does this mean I have "luck" or an easy flow in energy concerning my AC and MC? How is the Mars/Pluto conjunction involved!

Its all so complex!

(I did look on Bob Marks Astrologer site, and he does mention the trine with the AC and MC)

Wilsonsc: About the Kite formation, I read the opposition is the key to understanding the potential or energy with the planet in opposition. But, I am confused because all of those planets (Merc, Nep, Jup) are all opposite my AC...how will the kite manifest itself in my chart though? Does this mean that all 3 of these planets energy are strong within myself?

However,I do get the stellum in Sag- thanks!

That forum, Neptune, was helpful, summarized some popular aspects. Thanks!

Mystic, I think I am going to have to seriously sit down and analyze this stuff...

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