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proxieme
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posted October 10, 2005 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there anything going on astrologically to account for the bulk of recent disasters?

  • The two Hurricanes in the US Gulf.
  • The flooding and landslides in Central and South America
  • The flooding in the Eastern US.
  • The Quakes in Central Asia

Or, if you don't think that the disasters are anything noteworthy - that it's no worse than usual, but that the media's been swarming - why do you think that's so?

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Mama Mia
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posted October 10, 2005 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I do nto think that it has nothing to do with Astrology. I feel like it is revelation from God. It is the last book in the bible the King James Version. The book of revelations. Thats how I feel...

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proxieme
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posted October 10, 2005 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, then it could be argued (if this is a Revelation from God) that it would be reflected astrologically.

So.

That's my question -
anything odd right now to signify either the natural disasters or the attention to them, whatever the source?

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Mystic Gemini
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posted October 10, 2005 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who cares....we're all gonna die anyways.


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Blind my eyes I cannot see
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Again a time, when I shall start

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Mama Mia
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posted October 10, 2005 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh alot of ppl care, and yes we are all going to die that has nothing to do with it we are all still concerned..

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amisha121877
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posted October 10, 2005 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm still reading these myself but if you would like to read them too:
http://www.astrostar.com/articles/2005-Universal-Predictions.htm
http://www.drturi.com/news/1125524558.html

then if you'd like we can talk about these. i'll be looking for more, as well.

I DO care.

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sue g
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posted October 10, 2005 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO DO I....!!!

I have a lovely son and husband........who I CARE about very much.......

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proxieme
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posted October 10, 2005 03:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the Quake, here's the chart:

If you've a different time for it (the time that I used was one that I found on the web) or better epicenter (it was difficult to get a definitive answer), or if you'd like me to include a specific asteroid, etc., let me know and I'll plug that info into astro.com and put the resulting chart up.

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amisha121877
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posted October 10, 2005 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I gave the earthquake a "humanistic" quality about it but here is some information that you might find interesting:

Pak Earthquake
Saturday, October 08, 2005
8:55:00 AM
Balakot, Pakistan


Sun Libra 14° 58' in house 11
Moon Saggitarius 11° 23' in house 1
Mercury Libra 29° 8' in house 12
Venus Saggitarius 0° 8' in house 1
Mars Taurus 23° 4' in house 7
Jupiter Libra 26° 6' in house 11
Saturn Leo 9° 29' in house 9
Uranus Pisces 7° 26' in house 4
Neptune Aquarius 14° 54' in house 3
Pluto Saggitarius 22° 9' in house 2
Ascendant Scorpio 18° 56' in house 1
Medium Coeli Leo 26° 45' in house 10
North Node true Aries 13° 37' in house 5
2 Saggitarius 18° 40' in house 2
3 Capricorn 21° 56' in house 3
4 Aquarius 26° 45' in house 4
5 Pisces 28° 59' in house 5
6 Aries 26° 11' in house 6


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Zodiac Tropical
Time Zone: -5 hours EAST
Latitude & Longitude: 34N33 73E21
Aspects y Orbs:
Conjunction: 8 Degrees
Opposition: 8 Degrees
Sqaure: 8 Degrees
Trine: 8 Degrees
Sextile: 5 Degrees
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here is a vocational guidance report:


Your individuality: Sun in Libra

You were born under the sign of LIBRA and your ruling planet
is Venus, which endows you with great idealism, a sense of
justice and refined taste.

Your Sun sign is CARDINAL and this indicates that you were
born to be a leader, either in thought or action. You are never
completely satisfied in a subordinate position carrying out the
ideas of others, unless they are part of your aspirations. You
are comfortable working independently or occupying a leadership
position.

Libra is an AIR sign and this makes you curious, sociable and
mentally very active. All occupations that stimulate your
intellect and the possibility of communicating will be very
favorable. You need variety, harmony and the exchange of ideas.

You are quiet, sophisticated, warm and patient, and seek
balance and harmony in your surroundings. Because of your
personal charm you easily connect with people and are likely to
have a great social life. You are happier sharing your life with
your loved ones than living alone. You are always willing to
cooperate and help others, sometimes putting aside your own
objectives.

Your sense of justice is also very strong and you do not
support or participate in injustices. Although you detest
aggressiveness and shady dealings, if necessary, you will show
your aggressive side and your inflexibility. You have good taste
and an innate sense of harmony and beauty. You are concerned
about personal aesthetics and harmony in your surroundings, which
will cause you to create an agreeable and refined environment.

You are likely to enjoy life and pleasures. Your attitude will
always be congenial, open and happy.

You were born to co-operate, to persuade, to mediate, to
conciliate and to balance things around you. One of your missions
is to work for peace and harmony in the world, imposing justice
and order with your natural diplomacy. You were born to develop
your artistic and aesthetics abilities, to socialize, to teach,
advise, guide, and to harmonize associations.

To evolve, your spirit needs to overcome the strong doubts
that plague you when you have to make a decision. You have to
learn to be direct and firm with your opinions, setting aside
your complacent attitude that sometimes could leave you a bit too
quiet. You need to guard against a tendency to comfort, inertia,
a great dependence on affection from certain people and the
search for peace at any price. You will also have to surmount the
hatred you easily accumulate within yourself, learning to forgive
and forget.


Your personality: Ascendant in Scorpio

Others see you as a dynamic, authoritative and tenacious
person. You are strong and confident in your objectives and are
persevering and intense in everything you propose to do.

You express your opinions very honestly and sometimes your
direct statements tend to irritate others. You are not one to
hide your feelings and are very selective with whom you
associate. You give yourself completely to those you like and
require sincerity and genuineness of them. You are faithful and
stable in your affections and don't tolerate or forgive lies or
deceits. Your powerful intuition will allow you to discover all
that is hidden from you. You are strongly attracted to occult
sciences and mysteries in general and are likely to develop a
strong potential for extrasensory perception. Because of your
personal magnetism, you tend to attract everyone's attention
without any effort on your part.

The profession you choose will have to permit you to develop
your ability to investigate, your attraction to investigations,
to find a balance between your emotions and your reason.

Throughout your professional life you probably will experience
times of contrast, great success and many limitations. Avoid jobs
where the human element is not important.


Your emotional needs: Moon in Sagittarius

Your emotions are fiery, intense and changing. You can't
tolerate boring, very passive or monotonous activities, but love
conquest. Throughout your life you will be drawn to more than one
situation or difficult or impossible goals to accomplish. You
despair when you are unable to get what you hope for, however,
when you obtain it, you may tire of it or lose interest.

You are very curious and strongly attracted to novel
situations, conquest or adventure. You are a bit immature and
naive and generously share everything you have. You express your
ideas freely and often neglect others sensibility, which may
cause you to say things at the wrong place or to the wrong
people. Your anecdotes in this regard will be frequent. You like
to meet people of different culture and ethnic origin. You love
to travel, especially to strange and remote places. You feel the
need to expand your horizons and dream of an accomplished future.

On the negative side, you tend to procrastinate or have a lack of
commitment.

Subconsciously, you have a strong desire to expand and to
exceed your current limits. In previous lives you may have done a
lot of traveling to distant lands in order to study, preach or
teach philosophy, law or religion. Because of this, you are not
used to staying in one relationship or in a particular place. You
long to be with people you may have known sometime ago far away
from your home. It is easy for you to learn languages and you are
not afraid of the unknown. You may have suffered certain
injustices or may have been a witness to the same. Therefore,
today you have a strong feeling for the law and are protective of
people in inferior situations. In this incarnation you have the
need to share all your knowledge and wisdom, and seek to overcome
the feeling of loneliness or isolation that you have suffered in
the past.

The profession you choose will have to satisfy your emotional
need to know, to learn, to teach, to expand your consciousness
and your mental as well as your material limits. You need to
express your enthusiasm, joy of living and confidence in
yourself. You have to avoid dogmatism, exaggeration or self-
indulgence.


Your mentality: Mercury in Libra

You have a balanced and harmonious mind and try to express
your ideas in a proper and delicate way. Because of your deep
sense of justice, you are not quick to make decisions. You
analyze both sides of any situation in order to avoid any
mistakes or unfairness. Your indecision, on even trivial things,
tends to bother you a lot and also will bother the people around
you. You are very moderate in everything you do and rarely will
go for an extreme situation.

Your way of communicating is soft, refined and friendly. Your
voice has a soft, warm tone and will refrain from using coarse
and offensive language. You get angry when arguments, violence or
aggressiveness occur. If you are put in a hostile situation, you
will try to escape or will hide within yourself. You have a
strong sense of aesthetics which will be shown in your artistic
abilities. You are very sociable and could excel in public
relations, diplomacy, law or as a counselor or umpire. You have a
complacent attitude toward others and most likely will postpone
many of your initiatives, if they create a lack of harmony. You
could be a bit lazy or inconstant with your studies and need some
support from others to successfully achieve your educational
goals.


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Chapter 2
Your abilities and your emotions, inhibitions and strengths.
Hidden talents or challenges, Karma.

The location of the planets in the houses and the
relationship between them can increase or decrease their power.

Aspects of the Sun are related to our strength and those of the
Moon affect the emotional world and are expressed on a
subconscious level.


Sun in house 11

Your sociableness and ability to relate to others will bring
you in contact with influential and important personalities,
especially men, who will benefit you in the future. Success in
your life is related to the relationships you become involved
with and your participation in certain public entities. You could
have friends that will occupy positions of authority, such as
managers, directors, supervisors etc., and will offer a helpful
hand in your career.

You tend to have great hopes and perspectives for your life.

You are idealistic and prepared to fight until you achieve your
goals. On the other hand, you can perform very well in group
activities and could become a leader in some of them. You are
concerned about social problems and like to be involved with the
renovation and improvement of life in your society.


Aspects that affect your INDIVIDUALITY:

Sun harmoniously aspects Moon Orb 3° 35'

There is a harmonious balance between your ego and your
emotions. Your inner balance allows you to act calmly and
moderately, and you are likely to attain the things you want
without many problems. You are firm and sound in your decisions
and are well suited for a profession that is related to the
public.


Sun harmoniously aspects Neptune Orb 0° 3'

Your great imagination and inspiration enables you to excel
in any artistic area, especially music. Your sensibility and
perception of the world need to be channeled and expressed and
because of this, you can do well in poetry, song and dance etc.

You have a very romantic and idealistic vision of life and
are very much satisfied with the accomplishment of your
fantasies. As a visionary, you can formulate projects or
successful enterprises; it is necessary that you have confidence
in your own ideas, although at times they may seem illogical or
impossible to you. Your spirituality will be another important
source of inspiration.


Aspects that affect your EMOTIONS:

Moon in house 1

Very magnetic and popular, you can be successful working with
the public. On the other hand, you also could be exposed to
criticism, gossip and envy.

You are very sensitive, emotional and imaginative. Everything
depends on how you feel; thus your mind and your mood tends to
change frequently. You are active and restless and constantly
need to be on the move, which is apt to bring many variations in
the course of your life.


Moon harmoniously aspects Saturn Orb 1° 53'

You are very serious and confident, which is to your
advantage and will allow you to occupy important positions in
your life. You are able to assume many responsibilities without
getting overwhelmed by them. You can excel in executive and
administrative posts. Having great emotional control, you don't
let your feelings get the best of you or make rushed decisions.

You are a traditionalist and observe your own principles. This
configuration augurs for great success in the material world.


Moon inharmoniously aspects Uranus Orb 3° 56'

You tend to have more ability to solve other people's
problems than your own. You are not easy to please and may easily
submit to some kind of notion or become hysterical. Try to
control your nervousness and don't waste your energies.

Because of your eccentricity, you could be the target of
criticism and gossip, but this is not likely to inhibit you.

Thanks to your innovative and defiant attitude, you are an
example for others and help them to change and not to resign to
unsatisfactory or unjust situations.


Moon harmoniously aspects Neptune Orb 3° 31'

Throughout your life you are likely to have many psychic
experiences. You have to learn to rely on your intuition and to
develop your spirituality. You are attracted to the hidden
sciences and will have great success in anything where you could
apply your perceptive powers. You also have ability for music,
art, the theater and dance.



Hidden talents: Libra in house 12

You completely neglect your artistic abilities and tend to
lack diplomacy. You have to learn to develop more patience with
others and to show your good side. You probably are very rigid
and seldom demonstrate your affections.

This influence could bring karmic unions or associations that
can be complex and unavoidable. Try to be coherent and rational
in your selection when taking on a commercial associate to avoid
deceptions or losses in the future. You also could encounter
legal problems due to administrative confusion.


Mercury in house 12

Your wasted talent is your intellectual capacity. You are
very reserved and keep your ideas secret. You find it difficult
to express yourself freely; you probably are insecure about your
own ideas and feel that your subjects are criticized or rejected.

You have to study, read and inform yourself, this will give you a
better foundation and at the same time more security in
communicating.



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Happy Dragon
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posted October 11, 2005 08:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings ...

.. try looking for Vedic astrology interpretations / articles
about this eclipse and the grand cross that accompanied it ..

1999 Aug 11 solar eclipse in Leo
Total(type) 1.029 (magnitude)) 02m23s (central duration)
.. N. America, n Africa, Europe, Asia ..
Total: England, Europe, Middle East, Turkey, India
( http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEcat/SEdecade1991.html )

unfortunately i cannot find the copy .. but in one of the uk magz at the time (1999)
there was an article written by a vedic astrologer in which the current world situation
plus the earthquakes .. were predicted .. .. .. the 1999 grand cross was also looked at in the same article .. .. the predictions were made up to aprox 2004/5 .. maybe earlier ..

.. but what comes to mind is that Saturn has recently made it's way into Leo ...

I tried this search string at google .. "august 11 1999 solar eclipse in Leo vedic astrology"
.. yet to find the relevant info .. many links versus slow comp. and .. time ..

.. one thing that was noted in that article .. was the path of the eclipse accross the earths' face ..
.. i.e. the geographical line it took .. and the countries involved ..

i've a mind to contact the magazine office and see if i can somehow get a copy of the article ..


.. thought to have descended from the Gujir clan
.. often mistaken for one of the Zalkhuus
.. known to be in ancestral conflict with the Chiwchin ..
( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/005492.html ) ..

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as to be in the bullring
.. spanish proverb ..
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H.D. .. posted links .. related h.d. pages .. posted pics ..
.. on the server status page at .. http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hdstatus.html
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amisha121877
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posted October 11, 2005 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sure thing happy dragon - i'll check it with cyberastro.com. in the meantime - i'm checking the link you posted.

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