posted October 12, 2005 01:47 PM            

Well.... Pluto is sitting on my Sun and IC (squaring my natal Pluto conjunct Ascendant). Two weeks ago I moved into my new place (actually it has taken me two weeks to bring everything over and I am still not situated).

The day after I moved into my place I was let go from my position in Bioterrorism.. The result of a politcal battle between my boss and the new person that is taking over the unit in the next month or so. Since I was still on the mandatory probation all she had to say was "It's not working out". My Aqua co-worker added enough fuel to the fire to help in my dismissal. She hated the fact that I am 10 years younger and had higher positions than she had held. The word was spreading that I would be moving up after the move to a different department and she absolutely couldn't handle and made sure everyone knew.

Her biggest problem with me was that the boss had promised her my position before I came on board. She had applied and interviewed, but didn't meet the qualification nor does she have the capacity to move into epidemiology. She started rumors that I was having an affair with someone from the state health department and would tell my boss I wasn't in the office (even though I was there, with my door shut working on several emergency response plans).

It was ugly... So, I broke up with the lying / abusive Taurus, signed a lease and was then let go.

LOL....at least it has happened all at once - making it so much easier to deal with. Still, knowing that I was a pawn makes me sick to my stomach. As of now, they are investigating a potentional wrongful termination and the boss is taking a week of to nurse her mental breakdown. The Aqua is tearing her hair out because she can't even get a grip on 10% of the work I was doing (she doesn't understand epidemiology and patterns).

Out of it all though... I am living in a highly spiritual area and I have this wonderful network of friends that have become a strong support.

The person that is taking over the unit is the Infectious Disease Coordinator (a Leo that reminds me of my deceased grandmother when she was her age). She took me under her wing and helped me so much in the area of diseases and epi. She is taking it hard that I was let go and is fighting to get me back on board.

Several people from the state and even the state of California that worked with me in emergency response in Sacramento have written letters to the director on my behalf.

I know there is a lesson in this and what Pluto breaks down, new opportunities arise.

So anyway... that is where I have been...moving and dealing with a few losses.

What is making things harder is the Taurus trying to keep a hold on me, yet I already know he has someone in San Antonio (thank God, he can be someone else's problem). Yesterday was one of the last times I ever have to see him alone. He tried so hard to get close to me - hug me / kiss me...try to win me over by getting me into bed. He was hurt and angry when I rejected him - but I told him - I haven't had feelings for him in quite awhile. Deception will do that...especially when one is a Sag - I can deal with so much, but not lies... lies are a betrayal.

I have to run... I am heading to Phoenix to spend some time with my dad and do some serious hiking.

I hope other Saggies are fairing better .

Love and Light,

posted October 12, 2005 02:15 PM            

Thanks for the update -- have been wondering how you were doing since dissolving your bond with Mr T.....

I'm glad to hear you've got your own place now, but your job termination must have been a bit of a surprise. Your tone is strong, (a little resigned!), and you're right: you've had these life-experiences before, you have your safety net and friends/family intact, and you know life will go on -- it's not like facing any of these Plutonian Transformations the first time in life, when it shocks you to the core of your being.

If you ever need to get anything off your mind, my email is at my profile -- I have always enjoyed our conversations!!

{{love & hugs}}

posted October 12, 2005 04:03 PM              

I feel for you. I posted a while back about how Pluto had crossed my IC and is dragging its butt through my 4th at its own leisure. It was opposed my Mercury, and now oppsed my Ceres, and 2 dergees away from opposing my Sun. This area - 17 Sag to 24 Sag - is highly sensitive , because it makes a grand cross out of my natal t-square with Merc-Sun in the 10th, my natal Pluto in the 1st, and my moon in the 7th. So things have been rough.

Add to this that Satrun in Leo and Taurus mars in retro aren't being very nice to me either, it's surprising I'm not whining more.

Trnasiting Neptune in Aqua in now conjunct my NN and vertex (right in between them, one degree apart either way), and so I have lots of cerativity, far-fetching daydreams and weird lucid dreams in my sleep that keep me from feeling like my life is caving in on me.

posted October 13, 2005 03:08 AM              

You sound strong and up to some Plutonic digging, so you'll have all the resources you need (& some more, Pluto always adds few extra packages).

posted October 13, 2005 07:32 PM              

I didn't get either of the jobs I wanted so I am trying to get my own business going, advertising, etc. It will be tough, but I hope that if I put in the work I will get there - eventually!

Whatever is incontrovertibly right will come out in the wash. Hang in there!

LOL

posted October 13, 2005 09:05 PM              

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Pluto had crossed my IC and is dragging its butt through my 4th at its own leisure

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@ GN

Pidaua, I always add another u to your name and have to backspace, its kind of like writing queue (ok totally random). I hope you are feeling better and I dont know the story behind your & Mr T's breakup but I remember hearing BR say that he is also having a hard time nowadays, seems lonely and cut off from old friends, another Sag I know is having a hard time, but remember that Pluto gives power to deal with sh!t and teaches lifelong lessons. Embrace it with that tired sag smile and hopefully the next yucky transit will be much easier to take...

besides youve got pluto rising if i remember correctly, after pluto is done raping your chart, you will see a bunch of opportunities bounce out of nowhere...after my last pluto mess i had three guys ask me out simultaneously and got an award...what can i say, stick it out girl, you got what it takes!

posted October 13, 2005 11:44 PM              

As for other Sags, I know a Sag who is going through a lot of moving: cross country and who knows where he will land next. However, his musical career is finally reaching it's peak. That way there are ups and downs and he works too hard, but from an objective viewpoint, I would say his career is better than ever overall. It's just hard to see up close due to all the moving.

It looks like this is the year of career for Sag-take care of yourself physically.

posted October 14, 2005 07:07 AM            

Neptune is going direct on October 26th ~ supposedly deceit/lies come out into the open during that time.
From http://medicinegarden.com/astrology/daily_forecast.html
"Neptune is stationary right now at 15 Aquarius, so those people and their opposite sun sign, Leo, may be feeling a bit 'out of the water' or unsure what direction to go. This is certainly a time of fraud coming to light, lies being outted and people who do such things, being caught with their hand in the cookie jar. With Neptune stationary right now, your psychic antenna may be a lot more keen than usual--so pay special attention to your hunches all month; it could serve you well. Also, with Neptune stationary, there can be more rain/snow than usual, floods will be a real problem, or gully washer storms that deposit too much water in one place. Neptune also rules oil and gas, so expect to see gas prices soar along with heating fuel oil/propane/natural gas to shoot through the roof as well. People who play the deceitful 'shell game' abound right now. Believe nothing you hear until you can prove it first."

posted October 14, 2005 08:14 AM              

.. am listening to Enya as i type .. trying to send some soothing vibes .. as it were ..
.. i had similar thru '92/'93 .. t'was t.pluto opp my sun squaring natal pluto .. and the so and so went retrograde .. .. i think Pink Floyd gave the hi-fi speakers a good work out at the time ..
.. was a stressful time .. but not without its rewards or joyful moments ..

"Every exit is an entry somewhere else." .. Tom Stoppard

.. Pluto r 'n d ..
20th July 2005 .. .. now retrograde at 22.17 Sag
2nd Sept 2005 .. .. turns direct at 21.49 Sag
29th March 2006 .. .. turns retro at 26.45 Sag
5th Sept 2006 .. .. turns direct at 24.04 Sag
1st April 2007 .. .. turns retro at 28.57 Sag
7th Sept 2007 .. .. turns direct at 26.17 Sag

posted October 14, 2005 10:46 AM            

*YYYYYYYYAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY PIDAUA!!!!*

*SHE CAN DO IT!!!!*

*RA, RA RA!!!!!*

posted October 15, 2005 10:20 PM            

Everyone's words and support here really made my day... and brought tears to my eyes. I know that these things will pass and lessons will be learned - what pluto clears it makes way for something better... it just hurts right now.

On a better note.. my Saggie friend (former co-worker) is feeling Pluto pull away from his sun (he's and early Sag). He was devastated that I was let go, but he was able to move into a new office away from the jerks... he even has a window now (he is very much a Sun person LOL)

..... again, thank you all so much for your support. I appreciate it more than you know.

Love to you!!

posted October 16, 2005 01:02 PM              

I've def felt Pluto! Septemeber was a tough month. My Grannie died in the beginning of the month and I lost my job 2 weeks later. I have 4 plantes in Gem all lined up in my 10th house of work.

Pluto's influence has been tought, but necessary. I wanted to leave my gig and the universe heard me. I got my wish, just not in the way I expected. LOL

I am now taking some time for myself to grieve for my granny and to find my real path in this life. Not just a job, but a career and a passion.

Peace to all and stay strong!

posted October 16, 2005 01:03 PM            

I am not sure where your Sun is (I thought it was Sag...) maybe you meant that Pluto is crossing your IC? The Sun crosses our IC once a year. For me, it reminds me of the new year approaching (since it happens almost on New Years Eve).

I take that time to think of what is not working in my life and what I can clear out to make way for the new.

posted October 16, 2005 01:06 PM            

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Hi Nove... are you talking about the Libran Sun?

I am not sure where your Sun is (I thought it was Sag...) maybe you meant that Pluto is crossing your IC? The Sun crosses our IC once a year. For me, it reminds me of the new year approaching (since it happens almost on New Years Eve).

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posted October 16, 2005 10:40 PM              

I'm sorry that you've been going through so much (and've had so much *dredged up* by Pluto), but I'm glad for the cathartic healing that you're going through.

That's just the way with Pluto, though, isn't it?

The good news is that the first pass is supposed to be the most difficult...right?
Right?
Sooomeone say that that's riiight!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THINGS HOLY, SAY THAT THAT'S RIGHT.

*breaks down sobbing*

~ prox, who still (...still...) has tPluto dancing through her 2nd House and making "stressful" aspects to her nSun/Neptune/Saturn t-square...but a nice one to her nPluto

posted October 17, 2005 12:29 AM              

.. i just posted this on another thread with Saggie's in mind ..
.. depending on one's taste fer music .. it might be a good one for the freeway

audio file (mp3) .. mono .. 1.7 meg .. http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/s.m.b.fr.mp3

h.d.

posted October 17, 2005 12:33 AM              

We do seem to be going through some simular trials and tribulations, do we not? Changes involving relationships, home, and profession. Inner changes that are about being honest with ourselves...etc.

I'm rooting for you, buddy - if you'll root for me too

I know you'll land on your feet, one way or another. Exits are really passage ways to new entrances. (or something like that)

posted October 17, 2005 01:40 PM            

Yes, I have Natal Pluto on my Ascendant in the 1st house (Virgo) It squares my natal Sun (4th house) and Venus (3rd house). I periodically go through changes where people comment that there is something different about me. Lately, it has been mostly about beauty... people stop me here and comment on how beautiful I am..sometimes it startles me because I am not expecting it. It is, infact, one of the things that lead to me getting let go. I was told that I was too attractive and knowledgable for my own good by my former supervisor (who oddly enough is now suffering from a nervous breakdown and is taking her second week off). It also led to the extreme jealous and hate by my co-worker... in Science we joke that most of us lab geeks have a certain look... I don't believe it,but I do meet lots of people that fit the profile.

Usually they are brilliant, but socially inept and not as good looking as society would dictate. And please...I am not bashing on anyone.. I have just been in this situation before with my colleagues. This Aqua looks like a female Woody Allen and she had made comments about my age and looks. It really bothered her that I walked into the department and immediately made friends and contacts from other states. All her life she pretty much had her intellect going for her and confessed to me that she always hated the "pretty girls". Guess she felt I was one of them. Pretty or smart.. those are the two choices some of the more close minded people give to others. Sad isn't it?

Prox...

I am so sorry that you are also going through so much. I know it hurts .... I have tPluto in my 4th house... about 2 degrees away from my IC and 3 degrees from my Sun (which is just past the IC at 25 degrees Sag). It will be in my 4th house for at least another 1 1/2 years.

Hang in there pretty lady... I know that you have the strength.

Lioneye,

I am ALWAYS rooting for you. Even when we don't talk or we periodically disappear from this site- you are always on my mind. We have very similar energies and seem to walk the same path at times LOL....

How are things going for you job wise? Are you thinking of changing careers or did you take that other job?

Love to you all,

posted October 17, 2005 02:06 PM              

i am a bit nervous about pluto right now as well. it's at the end of my 6th house, close enough to my dsc as to be considered conjunct. soon it will enter my 7th house of relationships. i think i can already feel the undercurrents of pluto doing something to me & boyfriend's relationship! i just have to keep reminding myself that whatever happens is for the highest good! we're already going thru some unexplainable growing pains right now.

anyway, i got this from magi astrology and thought you all may wanna chack it out:

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PLUTO is the ruler of sexuality, lust, obsessive desires, and the sex organs. (This overlaps in some ways with Mars, which symbolizes pure physical attraction, but there is a difference.) Pluto is also representative of power; the establishment; and things that enhance or preserce power, such as atomic energyand weapons, politics, great success, big business, corporations, and advertising. Pluto signifies dictatorships and oppression, as well as the state of being oppressive; this leads to Pluto signifying the super ego and undeserved self-esteem. Pluto represents the ingredients of great wealth, such as investments, the banking industry, the loaning of money, the issuance of debt, and the ability to pay it back; as well as most financial instruments, such as bonds and mortgages. It also represents gambling and betting, the trading of financial instruments of all types and profits therefrom. It provides the ability to take advantage of and capitalize on something in order to make a profit. Pluto has dominion over drastic changes that are true upheavals, and in this regard, it represents beginnings and endings. Pluto rules obsessions of all kinds, including emotional and sexual ones. Also, Pluto is ruler of the actual sex act, as opposed to lovemaking and seduction, which are ruled by Venus. Venus seduces you; Pluto simple throws you on the bed and says, “Take off your clothes.” Pluto is, therefore, symbolic of sexism and male chauvinism.

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posted October 17, 2005 02:13 PM              

i know our energies don't always mesh, but i'd like you to know that i find your presence here in LL valuable and inspiring. i really feel for all you're going through in your life atm, and i hope that you won't mind my wishing you good energy, light, peace and love in your life these days. thank you for sharing your life with so much honesty and good faith in LL.

posted October 17, 2005 05:27 PM              

Pidua, things will get better. The bad times seem to be over for Sags that I know.