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Cassy
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posted October 13, 2005 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

I'm not too familiar with transits & don't know alot about astrology but the basics. Can you please have a look at my stats and tell me if and how Pluto would affect me?

Thanks, will really appreciate and input.

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Capricorn 16°38'18 08 direct
Moon Taurus 29°33'12 01 direct
Mercury Sagittar 27°50'16 07/8 retrograde
Mercury is technically near the end of house 7 and is interpreted in house 8.
Venus Sagittar 00°30'01 07 direct
Mars Scorpio 20°14'06 06 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 28°48'27 07 direct
Saturn Taurus 15°47'24 12 retrograde
Uranus Libra 13°30'39 05 direct
Neptune Sagittar 02°11'32 07 direct
Pluto Virgo 29°41'55 04 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 24°15'54 09 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Taurus 28°08'42
2nd House Gemini 28°40'57
3rd House Leo 02°58'48
Imum Coeli Virgo 08°12'51
5th House Libra 09°47'10
6th House Scorpio 05°58'30
Descendant Scorpio 28°08'42
8th House Sagittarius 28°40'57
9th House Aquarius 02°58'48
Medium Coeli Pisces 08°12'51
11th House Aries 09°47'10
12th House Taurus 05°58'30

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Mars 3°36
Sun Trine Saturn 0°51
Sun Square Uranus 3°08
Moon Quincunx Mercury 1°43
Moon Opposition Venus 0°57
Moon Opposition Jupiter 0°45
Moon Opposition Neptune 2°38
Moon Trine Pluto 0°09
Moon Conjunction Ascendant 1°25
Mercury Square Pluto 1°52
Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 0°18
Venus Conjunction Jupiter 1°42
Venus Conjunction Neptune 1°42
Venus Sextile Pluto 0°48
Venus Opposition Ascendant 2°21
Mars Opposition Saturn 4°27
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 3°23
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 0°53
Jupiter Opposition Ascendant 0°40
Saturn Quincunx Uranus 2°17
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°30
Neptune Opposition Ascendant 4°03
Pluto Trine Ascendant 1°33

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missio
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posted October 13, 2005 05:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you show a chart graphic?

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Cassy
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posted October 13, 2005 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[img]http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&cid=mo5filevyGqb9-u1124 267665&nhor=2&go.x=16&go.y=4[/img]

Hi Missio, sorry but I've been trying to copy my graph in here but it's hopeless. Can you tell me how it is done? The address above is where my chart is ~ can't even do a hyperlink.

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posted October 13, 2005 06:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THEATER!

Whoa!

I look at this chart for 10 seconds and I see an actor (Moon in 1st) who will someday evolve into Manager (8th house Cap) of the Playhouse.

And the subject matter of the plays?: The Wild Hopes and Dreams in Relationship: look at your 7th house with Neptune and Jupiter etc.

Am I ballparky here?????????

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Cassy
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posted October 13, 2005 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Missio..... really, call my blonde or whatever you like but I need things in simpler terms, please.....

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missio
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posted October 13, 2005 07:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny!

A Blonde joke there???????

Look, you have MOON in the 1st HOUSE?

Am I seeing accurately?

OK.

Therefore you have a natural affinity for "acting".

If this is not your profession, then likely in your personal life, people will view you as a bit of a drama queen etc.

So.........

Why not charge at the door? "Milk it", you know?

So, get some acting lessons, join your local theater company, and learn acting, and do it.
You can get started doing some "bit" parts as these kinds of roles are always needed. Doesn't pay much in the beginning.

You will find as you get older, in your 40s or 50s, that eventually the theater company will look to you for guidance, and you could find yourself in charge of the whole enterprise (Sun in Cap in 8th)

Cap loves to manage. And the 8th house is all about collective resources.

Make any sense?

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missio
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posted October 13, 2005 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And also look at your Venus in 7th in terms of wrapping yourself up with the subject of relationships.

Jupiter and Neptune are both actors: Neptune more with film and Jupiter more live on stage.

On a technical note: save your chart as a .jpg and post it here, but DO NOT provide the link into your personal ASTRO.com site

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posted October 13, 2005 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, you from my favorite city! Cape Town!

Ok, now about the main point. From a neophyte
Pluto is all about transformation, occult etc.

Your Pluto trines Moon and Ascendant. My basic logic tells me that your emotional transformations will be easy and emotionally ruled passions would be very powerful.

Transit Pluto when it squares your natal Pluto should trigger some transformations. Are you getting interested in the occult sciences or feeling more passionate in life in whatever you like to do?

ANyway, the experts will clarify further.


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posted October 13, 2005 07:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
100% Iqhunk!

YES, YES, YES: and look at transiting Uranus right now: hovering around that MC (career).

So it is definitely time for a "breakthrough" (Uranus) in career (MC 10th house cusp) evolution...

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 13, 2005 08:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plootoe
" Most astrologers now agree that tiny, distant Pluto represents in the birth chart the process of fundamental transformation - of death and rebirth. In contrast to Uranus - which disrupts the Saturnian structures we create in both society and our personal lives - and Neptune - which turns them inside out - Pluto breaks them down completely so that a new level of awareness can be brought into being.
Like the other slow-moving planets, the effect of Pluto in any particular sign is to raise issues which are experienced by a generation. In the birth chart, it is Pluto’s house position and the contacts it makes to the Angles and personal planets which show in what area of life we are most likely to respond or contribute to these collective pressures.
Pluto’s domain in the birth chart is the subconscious mind, where primitive instincts often lie buried because we have been taught they are socially undesirable. If we refuse to recognise them, they can result in negative Plutonian patterns of behaviour such as compulsions and obsessions, or give rise to events beyond our control which threaten our very survival. Yet if we can bring these instincts to the surface, Pluto will enable us to refine them so that eventually all aspects of our personality can be brought under conscious control.
Such a process of change may be extremely testing, since it involves breaking down old self-images before a new and more complete self is able to emerge. Pluto also governs any aspect of society that is potentially undermining but which we are unwilling to face - the criminal underworld, subversive groups, taboos, urban decay and corruption; earthquakes and volcanic eruptions; self-transforming therapies and healers; charlatans; any form of uncontrolled power; nuclear energy; depth psychology; sexual reproduction; and the orgasm. "

merc square to pluto .. natal ..
( from preset astro prgm comp. readout )
"The square between Mercury and Pluto indicates that your thoughts
are often influenced by powerful and unconscious feelings and
emotions, possibly resulting from past painful emotional
experiences. While you undoubtedly have a deep, penetrating and
profound intellect, you will find it difficult to utilise it to
the full until you have brought to consciousness and come to
terms with whatever it is that is undermining your faith in your
own abilities. ** You may be prone to misunderstandings with
others, seeing hidden motivations where there are none ** or by
subtle and semi-conscious attempts to manipulate other people's
way of thinking.
You are fiercely resistant to any attempt by others to influence
your way of thinking, you insist on the right to think your own
thoughts and reach your own conclusions. This is not always a
bad thing, but sometimes it is necessary to realise the
limitations of our own knowledge and understanding and yield to
the greater knowledge and experience of our teachers, whether
these be formal academic tutors or simply people with a greater
experience and understanding of life than ourselves."

the square aspect .. natal ( 90 deg. apart)
There is a sense of being boxed-in with the square, as the planetary energies are operating in mutually antagonistic signs. The tension that builds up as a result can be difficult to handle, bringing uncertainty and apparent obstacles to progress.However, squares are by and large less extreme than oppositions, forcing the kind of action that eventually leads to change - and to a new set of challenges. In fact without this aspect, the urge to push forward and prove oneself is considerably weakened. It is through the square that the individual acquires the determination and self-discipline to rise above their circumstances.

plutonics' up and coming movements ...

.. Pluto ..
2nd Sept 2005 .. .. turns direct at 21.49 Sag
29th March 2006 .. .. turns retro at 26.45 Sag
5th Sept 2006 .. .. turns direct at 24.04 Sag
1st April 2007 .. .. turns retro at 28.57 Sag
7th Sept 2007 .. .. turns direct at 26.17 Sag

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Cassy
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posted October 13, 2005 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Missio, drama queen, me.....? No...Can't act to save my life. I just blurt out whatevever that comes to mind (merc in sag). I'm definitely looking for change of job, in fact I'm going for an interview next week ~ wish me luck.

Iqhunk, glad you love Cape Town, beautiful day it is today. "emotionally ruled passions would be very powerful" OMG, and how....

Happy Dragon...thanks for coming thru.
"The square between Mercury and Pluto indicates that your thoughts
are often influenced by powerful and unconscious feelings and
emotions, possibly resulting from past painful emotional
experiences. While you undoubtedly have a deep, penetrating and
profound intellect, you will find it difficult to utilise it to
the full until you have brought to consciousness and come to
terms with whatever it is that is undermining your faith in your
own abilities. **
Wow, I started therapy last week. Had my 2nd session yesterday. Today I'm feeling very down and I just thought Pluto must have something to do with it.

Thanks guys

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 13, 2005 09:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy

hi .. without looking any closer .. i.e. looking at the chart image b4 processing for upcoming transits .. well Pluto 'aint going to be making any harsh aspects by transit 'till it closes in on your merc placement .. that's way ahead .. a few years .. but not to worry thy head about it ok ..

.. idea .. if u can .. take a look at and have a think about previous Pluto transits .. (if i get your chart into my app. i shall try and post a date list ) .. .. to me Plut. transits have been like a scenery backdrop to whatever else is going on .. with Plut. in natal/transits think along the lines of 'transformation' .. 'depth' (very deep waters .. looking at the waters surface 'n being drawn in to explore the depths ) .. 'intensity' .. maybe like a slow chemical reaction ( as diff. from a uranian explosion ) .. as in chemical reactions often 'finaly transform' and sometimes can be 'volatile' ...

hd .. custodian to a couple of natal pluto aspects .. veteran of a few pluto trannies ..
will try and get off my 'Zalkhuus' rear end and type a few lines re pluto.

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Cassy
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posted October 13, 2005 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"tries to figure out what is goin on"

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 13, 2005 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy ..

re: stone walls 'n figuring out stuff ..

I just got back .. re any transits .. i shall input img/chart data into app. 'n see what it spews forth .. looking at the list .. and at the chart pic .. it looks like transiting Urns be prominent as in 'close to your MC squaring your natal Moon' .. Neptune, i think is close to a square with your natal Saturn ..

will return after exploration .. setting sail right now ..

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posted October 13, 2005 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy ..

** Today I'm feeling very down and .. **

.. in the very short term .. i.e. movin' on as i type .. are a few Moon transits squaring a few of your natal placements .. about 48 hrs worth .. be gone today .. .. transiting Mars be the next one of the short term lot .. it be retrograde in taurus .. squaring up to the n.node and opposing natal Mars .. at moment it's sitting midway between your natal Saturn and Moon ..

behind those .. you have transits from Urns and Neptune .. i.e. the short term transits be augmenting the big 'outer' transits .. .. will post chart pic with transits shortly ... and check on duration of le mars transit ..

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 13, 2005 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy ..

.. transit chart at moment .. looks like you've just been thru a Lillith to Mars transit ..
.. u can see on the outer ring the solid white moon shape .. just past a square to your natal Mars
.. ( pizza on the way .. must go .. )
be well ..

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Cassy
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posted October 14, 2005 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD, thank you, you clever person. Feeling a little better today. I thought with me having 3 planets in Sag, Pluto might have an effect. Got lots to learn still.

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Iqhunk
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posted October 14, 2005 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cassy,
Instead of just wishing luck for your interview, here is my interview winning self hypnosis tip:

Imagine that you OWN the company whose interview you are attending. Imagine that all the employees there lack some motivation/creativity and hence profits are down. To reinvigorate them and boost their confidence, you have set up this mock interview so that they can question the boss (you) fearlessly and in turn will answer all questions in ways that show how much value you want to add to the company and boost the profits exponentially.

Obviously for this you have to study the company's products or services thoroughly and think how you can really add value as well.

Now go get the job!

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 14, 2005 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy ..
you wrote at top ..

*** I'm not too familiar with transits ***

... regarding Transits ..

.. the planets .. as they move arround the zodiac circle, make 'aspects' to the planetary positions set at the time of birth (i.e. the birth chart ) .. .. .. 'aspects' .. are the geometric angles separating the planets around the zodiac .. so transiting aspects are just like the ones found within the chart ( conjunctions, squares, oppositions, trines, sextiles .. etc ) and as the transiting planet moves .. so does the angle change to any given natal planet or placement .. or in other words the transit aspect 'builds up' .. then 'eases off' .. over time ..

transits of mars , mercury, venus are relatively short .. a few days .. extended if the planet in question goes retrograde .. those are sometimes known as the 'personal' planets .. or 'inner planets'

the transits of the 'outer' planets be somewhat different .. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus and Pluto move relatively slow .. Jupiter has a 12 yr cycle (cycle .. as in once around the zodiac circle ) .. Saturn 28 yr, Neptune and Uranus about 80 yrs .. and lilltle ol' Pluto .. a couple of hundred yrs or so .. .. .. .. it be the outer planets .. in particular when they aspect a personal placement/planet .. that seem to give folk the hardest or best of times ( in terms of astrological transits and ppl reactions to same )

there is somewhat of an explanation about transits at my website (adrs. in profile ) .. see the aspecti page .. although i recently read it and realized it could do with a bit of sorting out .. as in it could be better ..

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posted October 14, 2005 08:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy ...

.. regarding the Mars transit

.. at the moment it be in 'reverse mode' or 'retrograde' .. so if you look at the chart pic. .. at mars on the outside ring .. it's moving back towards your natal Saturn .. .. here are the 'peak' dates as to when it conjoins n.Saturn

retrograde .. Mars conj nSat .. Nov 4th '05

direct .. Mars conj nSat .. Jan 15th '06

.. then it moves into gemini on .. Feb 18th '06

re: that moon transit .. well it will do that every 14 days ( those squares ) and normaly it be a weak short lived transit .. of aprox a couple of hours ( said to effect women more than men .. but i wouldn't know ) .. .. .. depends i guess what else be going on .. .. but one friday a while back i was feeling rather down, in the blues, for a couple of hours .. it didn't seem to make much sense so i checked my transits .. .. t.Moon was squaring n.Saturn .. not much else was going on transit wise .. so much for my fortnightly fridays

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posted October 15, 2005 01:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cassy,

You have transiting (planets in the sky) Pluto (transformation, also power) square (energy needs to be combined with) birth Pluto. This is a time of intense transformation when we examine our lives and start trying to build up the power in ourselves, while at the same time digging up the things we don't like about ourselves and getting rid of them forever. It forces the person to look hard at themselves and to decide if that is the way they WANT to be.

Since your birth Pluto is focused in the 4th house (home, also emotions), this is an emotional process of rediscovering your emotional self and addressing any emotional issues you have kept buried.

Since transiting Pluto is now focused in the 7th house (relationships), this transformation process has something to do about coming to terms with the relationships in your life. Over time, Pluto will move into the 8th house (transformation), making the transformation process even MORE intense as Pluto is VERY powerful in its own house.

This is a LONG transit, and won't be fully complete until many years later. The best thing to do with Pluto transits is to accept the "purging" process and to figure out what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of in your life. Pluto rules the underworld, including sewers, so this "inner purging" can dredge up some very challenging energy.

However, with your chart, you are used to stressful situations, and with Pluto at a "fate degree" (strong energy) you probably have intense, powerful energy of your own. Keep your eye on the goal of transforming yourself, and, after this process of transformation is over, you will find yourself MUCH more powerful than you were before!

If you are interested in learning basic astrological interpretation on your own in a simple, easy to understand style, see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

Plutonically,

Tim

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GemStar
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posted October 15, 2005 08:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Happy Dragon...Look at the great transit chart you made available for Cassy-How Wonderful!
Transits are a great tool to use once the basics of astrology are understood...and can really explain a LOT of influnces that may be affecting someone's life at a particular time! Very nice contribution!


Tim...You are ALWAYS so patient and giving with your astrological descriptions...and consistently pop in with great information! Your website is a fantastic place to learn more fundamentals of astrology-another great tool for educating more people in LLand (and everywhere!). Nice!


GemStar

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Cassy
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posted October 17, 2005 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD & Tim. wow, you guys are really going out of your way to educate me
Thank you so much & I will definitely have a look at your websites.

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posted October 17, 2005 08:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
post ur chart cassy. graphical representations are better.

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