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sthenri
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posted October 13, 2005 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These days I am such a bleeding heart, anyone else here feeling this way?

I am feeling my Cancer moon very much in terms of trusting others: it's tough. So much distrust and unkindness in the world:<

Trying to have faith. I know it's my pisces north node in the 4th.

Natasha
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Mama Mia
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posted October 13, 2005 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like that alot of time. I guess that is my Pisces sun. Don't worry about it this too shall pass. You will be fine lvoe will meet up with you again soon..

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posted October 13, 2005 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always been. I'm guessing it's my Pisces Venus/Neptune in the 4th...

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posted October 13, 2005 07:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha, maybe try to manoeuvre yourself into a position where you do not allow yourself to feel pain. Say to yourself "I will not allow xyz to hurt me, in fact I will not allow myself to be hurt by ANYbody", programme it into your mind so it becomes second nature, whilst simultaneously limiting contact with those that set out to make life miserable for you.

Having said that - I occasionally get blue days too - but I CAN alleviate them, or make them disappear, through the above, I suppose you could call it a form of NLP.

Some Aquas may be scarily mad, but they do have one redeeming feature, their ability to detach. If I have learnt one good thing from Mr. Aqua, it's that.

Take care of yourself, eat well, forget about planetary transits, use your time to be kind to YOURself (being an Aries, I have a degree in this) .

Water moons (I'm a Pisces Moon) CAN have issues with trust - but the important thing is not to let it get to you, either assess people before you trust them, or don't give a fig whether they're untrustworthy or not - because you know your own worth, right? and you can back up anything they might say about you behind your back with a positive, plausible argument, right? If they are a bad apple, you just have to let them go...how quickly is up to you...another example of detachment...but it's a life-saver.

Chin up, and don't let your heart bleed, nothing in life is worth it.

AT

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posted October 13, 2005 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice, AT...I guess I can be one, too...it's hard for me to trust too, but I have become that way...in the past I've trusted too readily (my gregarious Sag nature) and get burned...people mistake my friendliness and abuse it. I've developed an edge and and have become way more cautious...I don't have ANY Pisces in my chart...except my Mercury and Mars are both in my 12th...don't know if that counts..

kisses
Laura

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taurean_scorpion
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posted October 13, 2005 08:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the same way.
i'm a taurus in 12th, moon in scorpio in 6th, venus in gemini 12th, mercury in taurus in 12th, and jupiter in taurus in 12th...north node in pisces. asc. in cancer...and many other 12th houses.

its neptune.

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sthenri
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posted October 13, 2005 08:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes these replies help, AT you are right I am letting others hurt me emotionally because I feel I am vulnerable. I am trying to build a bridge to the light at the end. Without that I can't see my hopes.
At what's happening with your divorce?

And mentally and emotionally it's tough because subtle things still remind me of past relationships in this town to the point where I have to avoid certain places: I know I'm being avoided too. Praying my house sells as my friend will move me even in the middle of winter.

Right now I was hoping to go down to p/t but everyone wants full time, and I need to take a few classes during the day.

My new realtor said my house is in a very tough market and suggested taking what I could get: I have to get my mind of it but it's hard to do that.

the blowup with the Venus in Pisces, Aqua over spending the night didn't help. I did want to spend the night and I don't even know why I argued with him. He's not detached much, more self centered. He seemed so insecure it made me sad.

Can someone tell me how is it possible to have plastic surgery to look like this:??? http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/archives/004550.html
How did this woman transform herself? Do you think it changes anything to become another person? When I had surgery it did change me, my self esteem was much higher especially thinking of how much it cost, and I know people think I am younger than I am.

Why do pisces influences want to change so much, because to be honest I want to change everything.

Natasha

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted October 13, 2005 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey natasha,

for you, you are such an amazing woman and its that killer combination of intelligence, independence, yet consideration and wanting to compromise that always intimidates men; a lot of men can't handle a woman who has all her marbles... but believe me, there are men out there who value intelligence...and im sorry to hear you're having a rough time, but believe me I totally think you are A-FRIKKIN-MAZING. Don't let anyone get you down! It doesnt matter who they are, its not worth it, really learn to love yourself

ur right about the world being unkind...and it doesnt reward those that are kind or trustful either, but its a game we have to play, we can be secluded or we can get good at it? That is the way my Scorp moon looks at it, always perseverent. I guess of the water moons (all of them being difficult), the good thing at least about Scorp moon is that it is so friggin persistent it just doesnt give up...even after all kinds of cruel, perverted and just yucky men have pelted it with rocks

Have you tried going out on a long drive, drink lots of water, and my latest thing is pomegranate juice i am obsessed with it but it gives me a lean mean energy and makes skin great (all those antioxidants)...helps boost your mood. Try getting involved more in work...or working around children, if you like them, it will help soothe your Cancer moon? How about joining a relief effort or a writing group...I am involved in both at the moment...one for the earthquake relief, it helps cleanse my water moon coz i get to release those sad emotions ...under the pretense of the relief effort....and not feel weak inside.... meanwhile the writing club lets me vent, share my ideas, and be in awe about what other people write too. I know you are a writer, ever considered joining in on some new writing clubs and stuff?

Love
SG

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sthenri
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posted October 13, 2005 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all the Geminis who reply, and make me feel better.

I have been writing: my career has been everything and I have to write constantly. That part is okay. As for taking long drives, I really don't enjoy that as I had to do long distance commuting last year for work-I will try fruit juices-thanks.

I have been working very hard all year-and I am working all weekend on a writing sample for a new job-and taking classes part time, and writing, painting, working full time and selling my artwork.

Thanks again,
Natasha

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Loopy24
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posted October 14, 2005 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love from one cancer moon to anotehr xxxxxxx

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Loopy24
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posted October 14, 2005 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and always have a bleeding heart, the news destroys me these days and the newspapers. Think that whatever your astrology placements if you are a compassionate human being then the world is a painful place to be in. There are others though that share your feelings, and this helps xxxx

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posted October 15, 2005 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I like the 80s Cindy Margolis better. The new one looks like a blonde Mannequin with human skin and the new one's smile reminds me of Jack Nicholson as the "Joker" in Batman 1.

When you use too much surgery to transform the extrernal appearance, valuable lessons in life are lost. The ability to change yourself through the inner person and cross the illusion or "Maya". Cindy will have to keep re-incarnating till she is happy with the way she is, thanks to this excessive surgical transform, than inner transformation.

Unless a soul develops inner self worth, it is not going anywhere, irrepsective of the millions of dollars and downloads in this life stream.

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sthenri
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posted October 15, 2005 03:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes this is true, but self confidence is improved if others around you are happy. Women see improved physical appearance as an indicator of happiness. Women friends around me are happy for me when I look happy. When I am "ugly" they get hyper and worried.

I do get hired more often at job interviews when I look better. If I was a man I would age gracefully but I have come to grips with the reality of being a woman, and I don't seek perfection.

I am amazed at how much more respect men show women if they are attract versus the women that are not kept up. It's not really about beauty just an illusion that your life is together. At work, the women who are the most put together are the ones who are given a leg up more often. Ones that are not are put down for being forgettable (for being ugly). Being ugly or not put together is somehow the worst thing a woman can do in business.

I am angered by the hypocrisy but I can't do anything about it by getting angry, I can make a small difference from the inside if I fight back.

I have confidence that I am making the right decision when I have surgery, it's part of me, and then I am not jealous of other women. Even if it's not a big change, it feels like a big one inside because it's a risk that I take, and I do it to change something I do not like about myself and want to change.

I don't see how plastic surgery always translates into low self worth. The drugs can make you sad, true, but the actual results make many people very satisfied. Where would we be without braces and jaw implants? Once the process is accepted as natural and healthy, it is okay. I know men who have had all sorts of surgery and it's okay but on a woman it's cosmetic. There is this idea that it's all about bigger boobs but it's like that at all.

I do think changing your entire facial structure is extreme.

The sad fact is that I see more sex discrimination at law firms and banks, than anywhere else: so if you want to change things in corporate america I suppose you have to be willing to superficially play the game. I remember my girlfriends and I don't feel validated my men's attention (unless it's a promotion)

Like my Sag friend Ian said, who is probably reading this right now, once you get your hair dyed it's like: who is that guy? And it's just hair dye right?

Natasha

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astro junkie
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posted October 20, 2005 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Natasha -

I've been feeling the same way ...

Taurus Rising
Moon in Cancer (like you)

I know you have a lot of Pisces/Neptune/12th House influences, and I know my Chiron in Pisces affects me greatly as well.

The other day I read the thread here about Transiting Mars in Taurus going Retrograde - I'm sure you saw that too. You're probably just going more inward and you are more aware of your feelings than usual. People have always remained the same, since time immortal.

I've been trying to meet more sensitive types. I don't mean "defensive" types. I mean nice sensitive people (who like you) would never think of hurting someone. Or I should say, who have enough wits about them that they understand what NOT to do. That's the difference.

When one feels down about themselves, it's difficult to know how to react to someone being NICE! It's sometimes easier to know what you love about another person than it is to know what the other person loves about US.

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virgolibra69
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posted October 20, 2005 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I am very Empathetic also but I just found this website I found to be more accurate than Astrology! Although I am a total moosh ball Cancer Ascendant http://www.humanmetrics.com/index.htm#Jtype

I'm a INFJ!

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Sun Virgo 29,Moon Aquarius 25,Cancer Ascendant 25

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sthenri
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posted October 20, 2005 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right A.J. I just got a letter from a sensitive Cancer telling me what he likes about me and it made me blush and it made me mad but that's they way it is. I didn't like how he seemed to want me only because he is down, but he doesn't like himself much so maybe he's just a reflection of me,

He talks about having a companion for life, but one who fits his standards: I am still thinking about it, but it's sad to me when someone wants something from me, only I am not as naive as I used to be to think people are selfless.

Libras are fairly selfless, many times I have been fighting, broke, sad, and feeling that people have no souls, when a Libra came along and helped me out with a few words. One of the reasons I was with one for so long.

I have to ask your advice because the ex Libra wants to reopen talks about a relationship where we live together, is something I can believe or listen to, or will it break my spirit even more? Knowing how I react to this.

Natasha

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funkyaquarianpixie
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posted October 21, 2005 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im an entp on that scale

altho im only 51 % extroverted. I can have intp days.

( iNtutitive Thinking Perceptive)

Virgo Libra is an Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging personality.

Its called the meyers briggs personality index.

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astro junkie
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posted November 07, 2005 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha -

Well, you know I still struggle with relationships as well, so I can only tell you what I've learned as of yet. For example, the two people have to REALLY want it to work, and REALLY keep it as pure as possible, or it won't work. Pure in the sense that you don't fall prey to endless bantering. You don't fall prey to the "kiss me/slap me" game. The more you exchange negative words, well - it's one more nail in the coffin. Those kinds of words and deeds are not easily forgotten.

Also, I'm coming to learn that a large part is if you BOTH happen to BELIEVE it can work. Belief almost to the point of delusional. Sort of like that scene in the original Star Wars, where little dude is trying to lift the space ship with his mind.

Libra's can be the more emotive type like me, or they can be cold, hard & callous. Don't know which type he is. But if he has a Moon in a Water Sign, I subscribe to something I read about how Air Signs with Water Moons like to think back on how they felt about something.

So ultimately, we end up intellectualizing. That is to say, there is a lot of freedom inherent in our thinking, just like Gemini's & Aquarian's, it not too difficult for us to jump from one topic, one idea, one person - to another. Sometimes for the sheer curiousity.

Don't be afraid to ask blunt questions, such as where you REALLY stand with each other. Trust me. A Libra will know at any given time. Don't be afraid to hear something you'd rather not hear. Go for it and get the truth!

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