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skystar
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posted October 13, 2005 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to know about North Node conjunction Saturn in a Composite Chart. Could this aspect in the composite be a sign of a karmic relationship or something like that?

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Gemini Nymph
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posted October 14, 2005 03:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. I don't do much in the karma realm, but I know that any conjunction with the NN or SN is thought to be karmic. Saturn is also a particularly karmic planet, mainly in teaching responsiblity and life lessons that assist the soul on its karmic path.

In synastry Node-Saturn conjunctions lean toward the Node person learning and growing a lot from the relationship with the Saturn person actign as teacher, role model or guide in this growth. If this is a romantic relationship, the relationships tends to last only as long as the Node person needs to learn (or shorter, if other aspects are adverse, and the lessons are learned in retrospection). Once the Node person learns the needed lesson, the relationships tends to naturally ends because it has served its karmic purpose, and each partner needs to move on.

How this plays out in a composite chart, I am not sure. Since a composite isn't a true horoscope, I tend not to look at nodes. I just look at nodes in synastry. Other astrologers may have a different take on that however.

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lllog
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posted October 14, 2005 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lllog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nodes are very significant in comosite charts. The SN indicates what has gone on in the apst lifecycle with this person, and the type of baggage from that experience that you bring to this relationship.

As far as Saturn Oppose South Node, Conjunct North Node, I would say that it is quite significant.

According to Steven Forest a planet oppose your SN indicate a trait that hurt you and held you back in your past lifecycle, and Conjunct your NN a planet that shows you the way to grow in this lifecycle.

Lanny

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skystar
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posted October 17, 2005 07:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Nymph an Lanny,
Thank you for your answers. I had read something about NN and Saturn conjunct in synastry, but what GN says is an interesting version. Thanks.

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skystar
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posted October 25, 2005 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to share with you something I have found about saturn and nodes in synastry from http://www.fatewatch.com/love/karmicmagic.htm
North Node conjunct Saturn between charts: This bond creates a very long lasting relationship that has roots far into the future. Saturn acts as an anchor that helps tie down the union. Especially helpful if there are very strong spiritual and karmic aspects occurring as well. Saturn provides guidelines and structure to help the partnership grow into a committed and long term endeavor. Usually helps the north node person plan and project their dreams and goals for the future and can play a pivotal role in success towards reaching that.

South node conjunct Saturn between charts: Indicates very strong ties to the past and or will play out relationships from the past that may have felt safe and very secure but required new energy to allow growth. An excellent source of learning for the south node person who can find a sense of safety within the saturnian relationship to examine where growth and movement needs to be embraced in their lives.

Also, I will appreciate if anybody has more information about north node conjunct saturn in a composite.

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astro junkie
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posted November 07, 2005 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Very significant.

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GeminiLover75
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posted December 11, 2007 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just bumping this very old thread that I found... because karma is on my mind, and I feel like there's a lot of karma relating to me and my relationships. I have Saturn and the asteroid Karma in my 7th house... and I just found, to my upset, that my SN is conjunct my bf's Saturn and Venus... when I got together with him I thought this wouldn't be a Saturnian relationship, but it obviously IS. I HAVE KARMIC DEBT WITH GEMINI'S..........


From Cafe Astrology:

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Venus conjunct other person's South Node (opposite other person's North Node), or square the other person's Nodes
A feeling of instant affection is likely between the two of you. A powerful feeling of needing to be with one another is present, although over time, difficulties and challenges arise that could pull you apart. There may be a time when one or both of you feels that they have "outgrown" the relationship in some way, or that the other person is holding them back--and this is generally felt by the Node person. This combination is sometimes considered an aspect of star-crossed lovers.

SO TRUE.

And with his Saturn conjunct my SN, I'm started to feel pressured and stifled these days... I feel like these SN conjunctions represent a major challenge.

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amelia28
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posted December 10, 2011 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread...I can say that His Venus conjunct my SN and His Saturn conjunct my SN description are both true from my personal experience.

His Venus conjunct my SN-the challenges for us to be together were present from the start.

His Saturn conjunct my SN- he feels really familiar and with him I explore what areas I need to grow on or need change in while feeling safe, accepted and understood. I feel that even though he is working on himself he is very self aware of what he needs to work on, is very smart, so I learn from him and just interacting with him inspires me to grow and change things that need to be changed. In turn I help him in the same exact manner. Its a real neat aspect. I like it a lot.

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8ofHearts
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posted December 18, 2011 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! Been visiting a long time but never before commented but since I've been experiencing so much saturn/nodal stuff myself lately, thought I'd chime in. Most of my planets and my lunar nodes run along the cardinal cross and my angles in the early degrees of Cancer, Libra and Cap. I've also recently had Saturn crossing my ASC, Pluto & Sun as well as my nodal return - (my north node at 2 cap opposite Saturn at 4 cancer.)

For the last while, I've been attracting many men who's planets hit all those various degrees but particularly my north node (all between 2-5 cap) as well as the other cardinal degrees so I finally asked a psychic friend of mine what was going on. (None of these guys were good choices.)

She said I've been in a multiple choice phase for over last 6 or so years and I'm closing a 12 year chapter and letting go certain karmic patterns in love. (For last 6 years, I've mostly attracted unhappily married/separated guys, weird dishonest guys and a few plain crazy guys. One guy I was dating actually finalized his divorce and then actually got BACK together w/ his wife who BTW I later found out, had the same b-day as me but 7 years younger!) They remarried, then broke up again within a year - lol. Talk about having a hard time breaking up! Interesting, his north node was conjunct my moon & venus but the rest of our synastry was full of saturn venus squares and his venus right on my DES, opposite my Sun/Pluto and squared my Saturn and nodes. But the synastry directly reflected the transits and our progressed charts.
In general, I have been meeting people with the same b-days and planets over and over that reflect the patterns forming in my progressed chart with a lot of Saturn thrown in. Then you know you're in a karmic cycle!

While my friend claims that there has to be some kind of Saturn contacts between charts for them to even last, she said that Saturn conjunct North node in synastry is karmic but can be really tough, it is often a sign of unrequited love or folks just can't make the click. I know Cafe Astrology mentions it as a separative aspect as well. I think the whole chart has to be taken into account as well as each person's relationship to a planet like Saturn. Many times the connection is almost parental, or there is an age difference or some baked-in restrictions that could get frustrating over time.
Typically if it's a major theme, you'll see it repeated 3 times: in the natals, in the synastry, and then in the composite and then you know it's a significant part of the connection.

I can only imagine that the composite - if the relationship gets off the ground - will have some of those same qualities. In general, it would signify a heavy level of karma/responsibility together. How you experience that depends how each of you deal with Saturn energy in general.

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8ofHearts
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posted November 25, 2013 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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