posted October 15, 2005 12:53 AM              

What Ive noticed with Sag men though, (I get along great with the women), is that they always manage to provoke me or step on my toes, make me angry. Theres only been one Sag guy whos ever pursued me romantically, but there are other Sags who have been friends, but the friendship didnt last long. They say things that sting me, one sag guy told me that i am f@t and rude and ive never been told that before having knowing so many people. well it stung badly and i told him to get lost i didnt want to talk to him ever again.

What i dont get is how can Aquas, who DO take things personally and dont tolerate rudeness at all (all the aquas i know are very good with words and expect others to be too), how can they get along with Sags??? Sags being so blunt and all! And all the Aqua-Sag couples I have seen have been real happy. I think there are quite a few celebrity Aqua/Sag couples too.

???

posted October 15, 2005 02:33 AM            

I'm a Sag multiple (Sun, Ascendant, Mars & Jupiter all in Sag) and we're very direct people...so are Aquarians. We have a very direct way of interacting and it's all fire and air, blowing this way and that, inciting enthusiasm in each other with ideas and idealism...Every Aqua I have ever met, we meet and instantly there is this connection, an instant meeting of minds, sharing everything all at once. There is only one Aqua male that I work with who is very tall and quieter, but he observes. I always get this feeling when I'm around him that he sees everything about me all at once and I suddenly feel very exposed and shy around him...not sure why. We both clam up around each other (rare for me) and watch each other...kind of funny in a way.

One Aqua man in particular who would never ever expose his hurt feelings would just turn right around sometime in the near future and hit you right between the eyes with a comment that sends you reeling, but thinking back on the nature of his comments, it would be directly in line with the comment I delivered to him. I am never mean in my delivery or intention because I care about others' feelings, so if something slips, it's an accident...but thinking back on the times when I have accidently said something that was taken in the wrong context by this Aqua (he took it personally) I look back on why he said it and made the connection - and realized that he would never ever let you know it hurt him, until later...

Not all Sags are blunt and unkind. I've learned through the years to temper what I say and what not to say. There are some of us who do care about others' feelings enough to not trample all over them blindly and mercilessly.

posted October 15, 2005 09:57 AM              

It is odd though.
You know, water signs sometimes act detached to hide their emotions - maybe water bearers are the same. So that’s why they call them AQUArius

As for the Sag and Aqua relationships. Well I don’t know if this counts, but my Aqua girl fights ( verbally ) like crazy with her Libra sister who’s got Sagittarius rising…with Scorp Mercury - nothing but blunt comments come out of her mouth lol *sigh* it’s so interesting watching them together. It’s like this airy war…..that goes on and on and on - until someone gets hurt…..emotionally - and it’s usually the Aqua…which is sooooooooo weird. She’s an Aqua Sun, Moon & Mercury, with Libra asc.

But you know, I have seen Aqua and Sag friends - though it never lasts. The Aquarians have these big egos that get bruised too easily by the Sags - very similar to Leo Sag relationships. Both Leos and Aquarians are very similar - both hurt easily and both desire attention ( from what I’ve seen anyway ).

btw what that Sag guy said was out of order that’s not “honesty“, it’s just plain rude.

posted October 15, 2005 10:49 AM              

2 of my closest friends are Sags (both male)
they are my boys and we constantly make each other laugh.
I appreciate their honesty and they mine. we tell it like it is and no offence is taken from any of us

Sag girls I have always gotten along very well with also, whether as girlfriends or just buddies

posted October 15, 2005 11:40 AM              

see, they both get along with sags , normally , that too is a common.

i have been thinking over this for a long time . i was just thinking of starting a thread .

posted October 15, 2005 12:06 PM              

Aquas DO have big egos. However, unlike Aries, who always think they're right, no matter what, and will invent their own logic to prove that they're right even when everyone knows they're wrong, Aquas are objective. They're like 'I'm right, because x and y prove I'm right' and relish this fact. However, a sag will say 'no, x and y don't prove ur right because z proves that x and y are wrong'. Do you catch my drift? They're both objective signs. The aqua will always concede to logic. Thats why they get along. However, if they feel like that the logic was a blow to their identity they will not fight back, because their ego is based on logic. Instead they will walk away to lick their wounds. Aquas suffer in silence. I also think this combo works because Aquas are always blue. Not sad, but always a little depressed and you can tell this. Sags lighten their spirits.

posted October 15, 2005 11:02 PM              

I agree with Blue actually. I think both Sag and Aqua can be very opinionated. The Sag says it to your face. The Aqua might say it behind your back (if he doesn't like you). An Aqua girl I knew in school was constantly paying people out. Whenever I sat down and talked to her the convo would drift to someone else's weight or eyebrows that don't sit just right or bad taste in clothes or make-up she doesn't like etc etc. She used to pick on a girl for agesssss because she was quite big and Aqua girl thought she looked funny (which is pretty interesting considering she was quite big herself). But she would never say it to their face. She was nice enough to them, just said a lot of mean stuff behind their backs. Sagittarius can't do that. They hate doing that. If they have something to say they feel they have to say it to your face, otherwise they'd feel very guilty about it (they'd even feel guilty about *thinking* something negative about you and not telling you). A Sag girl who used to be friends with Aqua girl accidentally insulted her and that turnt into a massive scandal. Aqua girl would not stop screaming. On the other hand, she herself said things, a lot worse than what the Sag girl had said to her, on purpose (not accidentaly) towards other people..just not to their face..so in some ways it's a bit hypocritical.

Aqua's theory: I need to express my many opinions about people so I will tell others because if I tell the individual concerned they'll get hurt, hate me and stop being my friend. What they don't know can't hurt them. I'm doing nothing wrong bit*ching about them as long as they don't find out.

Sag's theory: I need to express my many opinions about people so I will tell them personally, because if I tell other people they will eventualy find out and however much it bothers them to hear it from me, hearing it from someone else (and knowing I bit*ched about them) would bother them a lot more.

But they do usually get along, at least for a while. It's one of those friendships that tends to break up and start again when both parties cool off.

SG you're a Gem so, Sag being your opposite you might either be very attracted or very repelled lol. The 7th is associated with open enemies and relationships..

posted October 15, 2005 11:56 PM              

yes Lauren most of the time I am repelled but there are those Sags that i am attracted to as well, however they are more the exception than the rule....

my question was just that, how can a sign as blunt as Sag, not offend those sensitive Aquas? I think i am seeing some of the on-again off-again possiblities. At the same time i can see how they would be very attracted and gravitate towards each other. But Aquas being quite similar to Gems (yes its true, although each sign does have its differences, Linda calls the Aqua male a 'version' of the Gemini female), and myself and many other Gems not getting along at all with Sags, two plus two is not seeming to make four here.... maybe I am seeing it too much through my Gem vision. I was hoping to hear from a few Aqua females in particular, becoz the sag men i have seen have been pretty intolerant and in your face with their rudeness....well maybe thats just my unfortunate experience...but they dont tolerate a woman who will give them the least bit of shite, and aqua women are not exactly the most submissive women out there, they are very opinionated.

posted October 16, 2005 02:33 AM              

i just wonder i think why as a Gem I dont get and a lot of the times cant stand Sag men in particular. how could the aquas, when gems n aquas are so similar? but maybe they are not.

Thanks lauren that really does help, the bit about fire men seeming to want submissive partners, ive definitely noticed that with aries and leo, then surprisingly they will compromise at the biggest issues, becoz they love you too much to let you go, u know? I think that in general people tend to see Leos as warm at least some point along the way but dont understand that really, Aries are like that too, all the aries men ive known have been such sweethearts deep down inside and give so much of themselves when they love, but their gruff exterior is completely transparent to me but to others apparently it is intimidating! Maybe thats the case with me and Sags too!

posted October 16, 2005 06:17 AM              

Cancerg wrote:
<<see, they (Cancer and Aqua) both get along with sags , normally , that too is a common. >>

Cancer is the most intuitive of the signs and can understand emotions very fast even if the words are the opposite. Aquarius is the most intellectual sign. Thus, both these signs know that Sagis are blunt and may not mean "emotional" hurt in their words. With other signs, any emotional ouburst is interpreted as genuine by Cancerians and so they get hurt too much. Could be the same case with Aquarians.

I asked a Vedic Astrologer about Cancer-Sags being so chummy, and he said it is because as per hindu myth, The Moon and Jupiter are friends (!)

So, SG, if you dislike Sagis, perhaps your Moon and Jupiter are not aspected well? Let us investigate this. Where is the midpoint of your Moon and Jupiter [closer midpoint].
What if midpoints of Moon with other planets govern our emotional reactions to those whose Sun SIgns are ruled by these planets?

posted October 16, 2005 09:58 AM              

Iqhunk i think thats a cool idea! Let me go take a look at Moon and Jup right now. I believe Jups in Aqua for me, and Moon is in Scorpio, they could be square, so let me check it out, and the midpoint too. interesting point about the midpoint ordeal.

posted October 16, 2005 05:30 PM              

and u too magus, i hope you'll have sometime to say soon since you always have intelligent and interesting things to say. now im curious darnit.