posted October 31, 2005 05:27 PM              

At the end of my big Halloween appointment today, something weird happened and it dawned on me that I was going a bit nuts with my Pisces.

He said to me "I have always wanted to do this (write a book something we have been teasing about then seriously bantering around recently); the I thing is I need to find the time."

Then I gave my enormous glowing flattering Aries/Gemi/Sag pep talk about his compassionate and healthy lifetsdyle/dietary approach and that is what patients need to hear when reading such books....blah blah...Then he says, "You're so inspiring; you're really inspiring me... but what should I say in the book?"

Gulp. What? What should you say?? (I should add I have 20 years editorial experience so I would be helping with writing/editing)

Is this Pisces ever going to get on with this or will I be motivating til the cows come home. I adore him and I see a soul that is kind and brilliant and has something to offer. I know that I can get him there I just don't want to be left dead trying.

Here are his vitals. Is there anything you see in his natal chart or transits that tell where he might rise or fall to the occassion on such a large emotional and time consuming effort (albeit mixed with sexual tension). Right now I sense desire but wavering; want of voice and publicity but fear and confusion:

Pisces Sun/Aqua Venus/Aqua Mars/Libra Moon/Pisces Mercury/Virgo NN/Asc Cancer

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posted November 01, 2005 09:17 AM              

Plus Pisceans tend to give mixed messages - and that makes things confusing.

posted November 01, 2005 09:37 AM            

His NN is in Virgo, so from the karmic point of view (hehe) he should work at developing virgoan indefatigable industry i.e. he must do everything himself. From the human point of view it is up to you to decide.

posted November 01, 2005 10:07 AM              

I am so confused with this situation. Part of it is me. I think this relationship has a gazillion Neptune and Pluto aspects and it's killing me. For one, I have gone from adoration to complete frustration and being turned off in a blink. It's the wavering thing that Pisces/Libra thing coupled with the self focus of Aqua. We also have a Pluto/Venus opposition (my Pluto, his Venus 5 Orbs)

I was hoping his email to me saying he might wish to write a book with me would clear some of the cob webs. Give us a chance to be creative and work together. He can be sweet and self-effacing but he can also be defensive (we got into an intense conversation about vegetarianism for health versus animal rights and PETA etc....which led into this verbal love fest between us---about him and me and the book)

I was flattered that he said I inspired him. That's like the fantasy of a Gemi Merc/Sun and Taurus Venus. That is a lovely compliment to give someone. But I just cringed when he said after an hour of intense talking "But what should I write??..." (almost a whine grrrr) Just wear the frigging pants Doc--for frigging God's sake.

Normally I write him a cute upbeat letter after our appointments. I don't even think I am going to bother this time.

To be fair, I have to say that he has ARIES on his MC (my own Eros and Mars sitting on it)(very little fire in chart but a Uranus Fire Singleton in Leo) which is interesting as it is his "ideal" self image and believe me I can see him pining for that ARIES patina. I think he wants to be fiery, suave and aggressive, Mr. Mac Daddy but that Cancer/Libra/Pisces signature betrays him. He is kind and sweet and on one hand very giving but then very hard headed and so self focused you want to scream. H ebasically has his dreamy head up his rear alot.

Funny you asked... Our North Nodes are identical and conjunct. Virgo 22-24 NN and Pisces SN. Mine NN is at the top of my chart and shares Pluto in my ninth house. So my SN is in the 3rd with Chiron. His North Node is in his 3rd house.Yes I just notice our situation is reversed there...

I don't know what I am going to do. I am always very kind (Sometimes I like the way he makes me want to be kind and generous) to him because I am moved by his gentle spirit, but I am thinking about just ignoring him for now. He makes me crazy, and my life is so nuts now as it is. I just don't feel like being assertive or cheery or helpful.

His Chart

posted November 01, 2005 10:50 AM              

It sort of comes down to this: even if the other things are good, how do your temperaments mesh, and are you going to respect someone ultimately when you feel you are almost "the guy" in the relationship? Some women are pushy and aggressive by nature and don't mind, but with your Venus in Taurus I see you as someone more "traditional," who needs to look up to a guy and feel the yin/yang polarity thing working.

Just my opinion. You might want to consult with a professional astrologer, since it's a pivotal decision...

posted November 01, 2005 01:59 PM              

I did talk with him about the importance of book's tone--to be a partner with those in crisis and neither paternalistic nor punitive. I know from my own surgeries the patient in their heart always feels guilty and in some ways extraordinarily lost, a loser as though he or she let something get out of control that could have been controlled. I also believe thta being wide sweeping and draconian in dietary changes is rarely sustainable--that's because there is alot of intimacy tied upin food, eating and family history. This is what I was trying to get across, and yes I think he was glad of it ....

Loggerhead,

Yes! My Taurus Venus conveys a yearning for the traditional male archetype but it creates stress and conflict for my Aries Mars/Moon and Gem Sun/Merc.

Maurice Fernandez says I have an "I can do it" Aries Imprint on my chart and his energy is drawn to that but I have to take it easy because of passive/aggressive mixed signal notes in his. So I know I could write his book with my hands behind my back but I sense I have to lay back for my own well being and maybe even his.

The only possible saving grace in all this is that the composite picks up the hard work energy of Aries with a Stellium in Aries house 7--venus, mercury and sun and a Libra Asc and Cancer Moon. So maybe if the work ever commences we will be more of a house on fire with the nurturance of the Cancer moon and the social grace of the Libra Ascendant.

My mother (scorp) was married to my dad a pisces man for 44 years before she died unexpectedly and she loved him but her disdain for his dreaminess and wishiwashiness and what she called his boy scout act that made everyone look at her like the wicked witch and him a sweet pleaser still rings in my head. What was different though was my dad's Taurus Moon and my Mom Aqua Moon! Yikes.

Doc has a surplus of soft edges around that chart and I am hoping that yearning for the Aries patina and even his cerebral drive from Aqua will propel him on. I am very direct with him and he is like a Christmas tree lighting up when I compliment him but you are right, I don't wear the pants with any ease--aries placements or not.

PS: Hell he's got that SUN in 9th House!! That's why he's successful now. What's he want from me??? (my Ge Sun/Cancer MOON sister's quote: "To feel alive Lily, dammit to feel alive"...LOL)

posted November 01, 2005 02:11 PM              

Well, I just noticed this kernel of info---the vast majority of his planets are all on the right side...so he needs the aid of others to help him get things done....

posted November 01, 2005 04:06 PM              

"I hate to say it, but what is frustrating you right now about him is what would frustrate you about him for the rest of your life together, if it really came to that. Sorry to be so blunt, but -- been there, done that. "

that is so much the truth but of course - as long as both parties know this - it makes all the difference in the world when one or the other can step back and let the other do it "their" way, if only for a brief moment. like they say - two heads usually are better than one. in the end, either we learn this from trial and error on the stubbornly "i am the elite of this relationship, your method sucks" or thrive from the "we did it and it turned out so much better than i ever dreamed because i can see both of us in it".

i don't know - i'm not really married but i do realize in a relationship that
"I hate to say it, but what is frustrating you right now about him is what would frustrate you about him for the rest of your life together, if it really came to that. Sorry to be so blunt, but -- been there, done that. "

posted November 01, 2005 07:20 PM              

My dear! What a NICE invitation!

Yes! That is the FIRST thing I noticed in his chart...it is almost ALL on the right side of the chart. This is a person who NEEDS to have another person's opinion! Great insight!

Since we are talking about differing approaches to "action", let's take a look at Mars (being, also action) in both of your charts. In your chart, you have Mars in the sign it rules (easy energy), so taking action is fairly easy. You ALSO have Mars square (energy needs to be combined with) Jupiter (expansion), so you have a tendency to take expansive actions or, in other words, you may take on a little too MUCH action from time to time!

He has Aquarius (friends, also restructuring) modifying Mars, so for him action is a form of social re-engineering...getting together to restructure and reform things until an action is agreed upon (that's that right side of the chart emphasis coming up again! ). AND he has Mars square Neptune (spirituality, also confusion), so he may be confused about WHAT actions to take. As a result, he again tries to find some "clue" in the outer world about what to do.

Taking a look at the synastry between you from HIS point of view makes this clearer. YOUR Mars conjuncts HIS Midheaven (outer world), so he depends on YOU to direct HIM on what actions to take in the outer world. AND your Saturn (duty, also authority) sextiles (energy goes easily with) his Mercury (thinking, also writing). So to HIM YOU are the authority on his writing.

All this you probably already know, so your REAL question is...is this situation EVER going to change? In my opinion, probably not...he NEEDS to have the opinions of others and is confused about what to do. Your Mars energy is the perfect driving force for him and it is easiest for him to leave everything up to you and let YOU drive FOR him!

Opinionated,

posted November 01, 2005 07:22 PM              

Thanks. I think there a great deal of truth to this, and must see my way to a center path. If I can and have the energy to muster otherwise we have to muddle about. Its ultimately his dream and he has to take primary responsibility for it. The writing is my passion and I'd like to work with him if we can manage...

His chart shows great creativity and serious thought and vast potential but a feeling of being torn (saturn--mc) between family and work, and balancing it all.\

posted November 02, 2005 12:43 PM              

Does anyone have Mars Aqua and how does it affect your anger, fighting, debate style??