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globe trotter
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posted November 20, 2005 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could anyone please take a look at this chart and tell me if he can ever make up his mind on 'anything' or ever feel peaceful?

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Cancer 03°22'17 11 direct
Moon Pisces 05°22'48 07 direct
Mercury Cancer 15°54'47 11 direct
Venus Leo 10°35'32 12 direct
Mars Virgo 06°13'21 01 direct
Jupiter Cancer 14°25'09 11 direct
Saturn Leo 26°40'46 12 direct
Uranus Scorpio 12°36'08 03 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 16°29'23 04 retrograde
Pluto Libra 13°53'54 02 stationary (D)
True Node Libra 01°01'23 02 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 01°56'16
2nd House Virgo 25°18'15
3rd House Libra 23°45'38
Imum Coeli Scorpio 26°55'40
5th House Capricorn 01°40'29
6th House Aquarius 03°50'12
Descendant Pisces 01°56'16
8th House Pisces 25°18'15
9th House Aries 23°45'38
Medium Coeli Taurus 26°55'40
11th House Cancer 01°40'29
12th House Leo 03°50'12

Major aspects
Sun Trine Moon 2°01
Sun Sextile Mars 2°51
Sun Sextile Saturn 6°42
Sun Sextile Ascendant 1°26
Moon Opposition Mars 0°51
Moon Trine Uranus 7°13
Moon Opposition Ascendant 3°27
Mercury Conjunction Jupiter 1°30
Mercury Trine Uranus 3°19
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 0°35
Mercury Square Pluto 2°01
Venus Square Uranus 2°01
Venus Trine Neptune 5°54
Venus Sextile Pluto 3°18
Mars Conjunction Ascendant 4°17
Jupiter Trine Uranus 1°49
Jupiter Quincunx Neptune 2°04
Jupiter Square Pluto 0°31
Saturn Conjunction Ascendant 5°15
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°35

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Gemini Nymph
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posted November 21, 2005 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

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Isolaede
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posted November 21, 2005 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Globe:

Is this the same Cancer you posted about in the Cancer/Cap thread? If so then hun, you've been complaining about this guy for a while, and are obviously profoundly unhappy with him. People gave you a ton of advice on how to deal with him, but frankly if you are as disenchanted with him as you seem then that advice is not going to do you any good. Why don’t you just end things? You CAN make it work with this guy, but it sounds like you don’t want to, so don’t drag it on any longer. Just my two cents.

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cancerrg
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posted November 21, 2005 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u know the only diff in his and my chart is , i have a taurus moon !
everything else is same .

what about your chart globe?

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cancerrg
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posted November 21, 2005 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anything that u might like to understand based on my persepective , feel free .

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globe trotter
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posted November 21, 2005 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isolaede, I haven't seen him for three weeks. I even had a date with another guy this weekend and it went fine and we'll meet up again this weekend.
I am actively running away from this cancer, yet his text messaging/emailing never stops. Some sweet, some bitter, some angry messages. I think I'll have to change my phone number. That's such a hassle!

Thanks!

Below are my positions:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Capricorn 03°09'09 04 direct
Moon Aquarius 22°23'42 06 direct
Mercury Capricorn 22°20'46 05 direct
Venus Aquarius 17°50'16 06 direct
Mars Sagittarius 24°38'14 04 direct
Jupiter Taurus 21°58'13 09 retrograde
Saturn Leo 16°12'42 12 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 10°35'11 03 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 14°23'52 04 direct
Pluto Libra 14°02'31 02 direct
True Node Scorpio 01°22'59 02 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 10°11'24
2nd House Libra 05°13'58
3rd House Scorpio 04°45'39
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 07°38'04
5th House Capricorn 11°04'10
6th House Aquarius 12°17'49
Descendant Pisces 10°11'24
8th House Aries 05°13'58
9th House Taurus 04°45'39
Medium Coeli Gemini 07°38'04
11th House Cancer 11°04'10
12th House Leo 12°17'49

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Uranus 7°26
Sun Trine Ascendant 7°02
Moon Conjunction Venus 4°33
Moon Sextile Mars 2°15
Moon Square Jupiter 0°25
Moon Opposition Saturn 6°11
Moon Sextile Neptune 8°00
Mercury Trine Jupiter 0°23
Venus Square Jupiter 4°08
Venus Opposition Saturn 1°38
Venus Sextile Neptune 3°26
Venus Trine Pluto 3°48
Mars Quincunx Jupiter 2°40
Jupiter Square Saturn 5°46
Saturn Square Uranus 5°38
Saturn Trine Neptune 1°49
Saturn Sextile Pluto 2°10
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 0°24
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°21
Neptune Square Ascendant 4°12

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globe trotter
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posted November 22, 2005 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancerrg, do you ever let your ex go?
How long was the longest relationship you had?

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cancerrg
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posted November 22, 2005 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah , i think i do.
but i must admit , its very difficult for me . very very difficult, infact .
so i try a lot to let the realtion work before finally , moving on .
and once i have moved on , especially if someone left rather then my living her /him , the hurt is there, its basically ego and sense of defeat .

i have never been in your man's kind of situation, my relation has been more of mutually understanding kind even in breakups,infact there never was a break up , we just knew , there wasn't an answer to the situations that we were in .

another example,there was a taurus girl that i liked but before i could do something substanntial , the relation was poked by a gem friend of mine .
my first reaction , anger and shame ( i know its weird )
second reaction , i shut her from life , simply bcos i can't let someone have a undefineed realtion with me . you are either in or out . and if i have a even a minor inkling that someone takes me as a burden , i'll automatically start making a distance .
thats the first reaction to let the other person realise if he is missing me or not .(thats what , isolaede meant by going into the shell)
now, if the person doesn't respond and i love him or her too much , i 'll come out of my shell and i'll try my emotional skills , that could go on for a while untill i am totally sure that the person isn't interested . then only will i put a the end board .
and i think, your man is going through the second phase , if u dont want a realtion with him , simply keep silent , he 'll try but later on move on .
ofcourse there would be hurt and anger that 'll be there always .

as for my longest realtion , i am still in love with my first woman , i am still in love with my second woman ( and i have a strong crush on the third one )
my realtion did not break up bcos of any of us but mainly bcos of the conditions , in the first case , i didn't have enough money to go and ask for her hand from her parents( she is getting married next month and i 'll be attending her marriage ) , in the second one , again ,social standard , money and the third and most important-her age , she is just sixteen at present ( we have a big age diff ) i still love her and i know the feeling is reciprocated too . btw,who knows if luck would again bring us togetther.
i guess my answer to the second part wasn't exactly what u were searching for .
in general , if i leave this two realtions , i feel i am pretty ok in sustaining my realtions , i have had realtions with people with whom , i have worked barely for ten or fifteen days .

so to summarise , yes i do let my ex go and i am sure all cancers do irrespective of thier chart.

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cancerrg
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posted November 22, 2005 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just to add a bit more , a divorce is the biggest night mare for me .
but then again , if i feel the realtion isn't working , i might opt for it , may be i wouldn't be the first one to ask for it but i might readily admit to it .

cancers are bloody practical people even with thier emotional baggage that they carry.
thats why they are known to be the business people , we know where are intersts are and how long !

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cancerrg
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posted November 23, 2005 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw, u could check out the thread by celtic in soul union . her man is cancer-sun , pisces moon.

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astro junkie
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posted November 30, 2005 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
globe trotter -

Does this person seem like they are always worrying? Perhaps it seems like one negative drama after another?

A Cancer is always going to worry no matter what. Even if they have a "lighter" Moon, they will worry. Sometimes a lighter Moon can even exasperate the worry, believe it or not.

Since they have a Water Sun AND Moon, this helps with the flow of emotions, so this is a good thing to try to focus on. Their emotional depth and ability to reflect their emotions to others goes smoother.

The Merc in Cancer makes the "worry" part worse, as Mercury is about how they think or get to things in a "logical" manner. It's also how they communicate, so they may not divulge things too quickly with a Cancer Mercury, but the more you get to know them and the more they trust, the more they will open up.

Venus in Leo helps here, I think. Because it gives them some fire and the will to take a chance on romance. But it can also mean they will fall in love a little too quickly, sort of like a Venus in Aries. So until they learn how to steer their Venus, they may have a lot of trials & errors when it comes to love. But I believe their heart is in the right place.

Mars in Virgo speaks to the worry worry part again. This person should not take themselves too seriously or be too critical of themselves.

Jupiter in Cancer is another black cloud over what would be an optimistic outlook. WORRY!

Saturn in Leo is not such a difficult placement, except, this is where they may come across with a lot more emotional drama. They need to understand they are creating this drama themselves, and be careful not to blame others for things gone wrong. Watch for projecting their emotions.

And of course, the Asc in Virgo goes back to worry again.

I think this person may have health challenges. Do they have skin problems, which can be due to stress of hormone imbalances? Do they get enough cardio workouts to keep their heart strong and the blood pumping?

With all those Planets in the 11th & 12th Houses, plus their Pluto & North Node in Libra, you just know this person wants to have a positive impact on others and society.

A Capricorn may be a good friend to this person.

Maybe something I said here sticks out. Or maybe it's totally off, but that's what my first impression was ...

Hoping for the best for you's.

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Hexxie
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posted November 30, 2005 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#1 thing I notice is that he & you both have your natal Saturn's in Leo. Transiting Saturn is in Leo right now as well. There are still too many degrees between trans Saturn & his Saturn but since this is such a big 'thing' (people in the 'old days' used to refer, probably unknowingly, to this time as 'mid-life crisis'). Still, he is beginning to feel the lessons of the stern Master Teacher Saturn.

You are feeling this 'shift' even more right now with trans Saturn 5 degrees away from your natal Saturn.

So to answer your question, yes he can make up his mind & feel peaceful! He wil be a 'new' person after this transit! The Saturn Return transit always reminds me of the phoenix (symbol for rebirth). It burns up and is killed, but is reborn from its ashes, anew. It is my own personal opinion that no one should get married, or settle down, before their Saturn Return has gone by!!!

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Isolaede
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posted November 30, 2005 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Globe:

*Hugs* I'm sorry you are in such a tough place. Cancer's do have a terrible time letting go. They desperately need to hold onto things that are precious to them. I've done the same thing your crab has - my last boyfriend just kind of walked out. It wasn't something that was mutually agreed on as in my past relationships. This chap just bailed. I didn't know how to deal with it because I didn't have that natural time to mentally prepare myself. Sure all the signs were there, but I wasn't ready to let go that quickly. I needed more time. So I called, e-mailed, and generally made a nuisance of myself. I tried to reason with him and convince him that he should try again. He was an unmovable brick wall, but I didn't listen. Then he stopped talking to me completely. I just kept trying though. Silly me, right? I guess I thought love was worth fighting for. This happened up until I looked at his actions, realized how uncaring they were, got angry, and decided to write him out of my life. Cancer’s have a remarkable ability to turn off their feelings for someone, and then cut them out of our lives. So I have two pieces of advice for you:

#1: If you’d like your Cancer to stop bothering you and don’t care if you ever have contact from him in the future, just ignore his calls and e-mails. Don’t respond at all. Sooner or later he’ll get hurt, get angry, pull back into his shell and slam the door of his heart tightly closed. You won’t be bothered from him again at that point. Well… maybe you’ll get a card or something around some holiday or special day, but at that point you needent worry, you Cancer won’t try to get back into your life again. He’s just feeling sentimental.

#2: If you do want to maintain a friendship with your crab you are going to have to have to be gentle, firm, logical, and possess the patience of a saint. You’ll have to talk to him regularly, repeat the same message over and over again with gentle logic (“We’re over, going back would only hurt us both… I’ve found someone else… I still want your friendship, etc”), deal with his alternating icy silences and moody sadness, quell his poorly hidden bouts of jealousy, explain a dozen times what went wrong in your relationship, and reassure him that he’s a wonderful person despite everything that happened. My dear Virgo ex did this for me and he’s still my best friend to this day but it really took a lot of patience on his part. I honestly don’t know how he managed. I guess at the end of things he really did love me – enough to hold onto me even after our romantic relationship ended. But without that love to keep you going, I don’t know that I’d suggest taking this route. Cancer’s have a dreadful time letting of things they care for, and guiding them through their “letting go” phases isn’t easy.

I am sincerely happy to hear that you are moving on though, Globe. You deserve happiness with someone that “gets” you and can take care of your emotional needs.

I wish you the best of luck!

- Jessica

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globe trotter
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posted November 30, 2005 10:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isolaede- You're such a great advisor. Things are better between me and my crab in the past few days. I am following your number #2 advice, reassuring him that we are not wrong, nothing is wrong. We'll be fine...

Hexxie- As far as I know, Saturn just entered Leo and will be there until September 2007. Are you saying that he will be a new person in Sep07??? It's way too long to hope for this to be straightened out What does saturn transit exactly mean?

Astro Junkie- You are dead on right about everything you said about him. Worries, projecting emotions, skin problems (he doesn't know what causes those rashes on his hands, I may tell him to get his hormones checked , he stopped exercising and gained so much weight, too!
Wow! Any "problems" with my chart??

Thank you all so much!

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nannyfish
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posted December 01, 2005 04:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the none of my business BUT department:

globe-trotter with all that Cap and Aqua going on in your chart...perhaps your water boy feels left drowning alone in his emotions? Give him a hug and *try* to look at your relationship from an emotional standpoint...he might come around.

However, if you don't want him around---cut the chord (it's not fair on either one of you)

Hope I didn't offend...

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globe trotter
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posted December 01, 2005 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be a cold fish, yet I have hugged him and cuddled him so much, yet he is so sensitive. I say "A", he interprets it as "Z" and he gets moody and then utters the meanest words ever. I know he is not mean, but his words are very hurting. We had a magical attraction, we could not stay away from each other too long. He says he misses me when I am away, yet he says he gets suffocated when he's with me. I wanted to put an end to this and I am holding very tight. He is not letting it go, though. He constantly messages and emails me although they are not about him wanting to be together. He is asking about how I am doing, tells me about his Black Friday shopping list, what he ate for dinner, and other irrelevant stuff and I really don't know what he's trying to do. I think he's a one helluva confused crab boy.

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astro junkie
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posted December 01, 2005 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get him around nature a lot. Drinks lots of water, no soda's or alchohol. And LOTS of rest!!!

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