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Topic: Empty 7th House Bad or Good?
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Jools
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posted November 25, 2005 08:59 PM
 
Help. I have an empty 7th House, Capricorn is on the cusp. 7th also includes Aquarius (intercepted??).Ascendent is Cancer 1.34 degrees and I have harsh Saturn sitting there. Venus is in Taurus in the 10th, conjuncting Juno & Chiron on the MC (the only earth in my chart). Uranus is in Scorpio in the 4th, directly opposing Venus in Taurus in the 10th. Are my relationships forever doomed? Does anyone have suggestions for how I could better use these energies relationship-wise? IP: Logged |
wilsontc
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posted November 27, 2005 12:10 AM
Jools,An empty house in a chart simply means there is no focus on the energies of that house. With an empty 7th house (relationships), there is no focus on relationships in your life. This does not mean that being in relationships is impossible, it only means you do not want to be in relationships for the sole purpose of "relating" to someone. With Uranus (friends, also impulse) opposite (energy is over-excited by) Venus (relationships), you want to have more of a "friendly" relationship with others...close but not TOO close. Also, you may get into relationships imulsively and then, later, decide that you don't want to be in that relationship any more. This can cause a LOT of relationship turnover! Instead, perhaps you could try just being friends with the people around you and, if the friendships become something more, that is fine, you can then go to the "next level" (whatever you decide that means!) with that person. However, if you only want to keep the person as a friend or acquaintance, that is also fine. Relating friendlily, Tim IP: Logged |
future_uncertain
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posted November 27, 2005 01:31 AM
Tim, I hope you're still around. I have an empty 7th and there is a huge focus in my life on relationships. I have a stellium in Libra in the 10th, but I don't know if that means anything. My 7th is ruled by Cancer.I hope you can clarify. I'd also like to know more about empty 7th houses. One thing I've wondered is if it alleviates some of the relationship problems others experience... as in, not as many influences combating one another...? IP: Logged |
Jools
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posted November 27, 2005 06:07 AM
Hi Tim, cheers for that. Yeah, apparently that Venus/Uranus opposition is a major life conflict. I can't see how it's going to be resolved, but your advice about the friendship first is probably the way. Hard though, cause I tend to know when I like someone (and am going to get involved with someone)as soon as I clap eyes on them. Makes it hard to turn the engine off!! I definately need to be surprised by love, but that is so rare. Unfair. Going to get a chocolate now. IP: Logged |
Jools
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posted November 27, 2005 06:14 AM
Thanks Tim, I thought I left a reply for you before but I can't see it. I agree about the Venus/Uranus conflict. Big issue, that one. And I'm glad to know to know an empty 7th house isn't that important. Your friendship first advice is true, but what I've found, and I think it's a Uranus thingy, is that I always know when I'm going to get involved with someone because as soon as I meet them a lightening bolt goes through me. The first time it happened I was looking at the back of the guy's head. I hadn't even seen his face yet!!!! This makes it difficult to put the brakes on, turn the engine off and get to know him as a person so a friendship can develop. Only twice have I been surprised by love and they were both the worst timing EVER. Cupid, therefore, is going to have to sneak up on me in the dark. LOL. Time for bed. Fingers crossed. IP: Logged |
LILYGIRL
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posted November 27, 2005 10:56 AM
I have an empty 7th House and have been faithfully married for 14 years to another Gemini (Leo Stellium/Cap rising).However I can live alone, have lived alone and require an inordinate amount of time away from all human beings.I give alot in the company of others then feel exhausted and have to recharge LOL. I married mainly because that's what good Catholic girls who wish to have children do. I do enjoy the company of others andf I am fairly certain that I would not enjoy growing old alone. I do like taking care of others (Taurus Venus/Pisces Chiron) and being creative. I am certain that what many of my friends find most challenging, sometimes a relief and sometimes infuriating is that my need for them can be rather slim. I don't crumble easily and I rarely cling which has tremendous advantage for most people.I am great in a crisis, very calm-- yet I can turn off or intimidate even frighten those who wish to feel strongly needed. I have most of my relationships for mental stimulation and to laugh warmly. IP: Logged |
Mystic Gemini
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posted November 27, 2005 11:53 AM
I have an empty 7th house.
I have a Taurus - moon, chiron, and venus.
Moon at the 29th degree All in the 11th house. ------------------
Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra *´¨)
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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted November 27, 2005 12:29 PM
Jools ~No one is "forever doomed" 
Astrology is just a way of recognizing potential. What you DO with that potential is up to YOU. It really depends on how consciously you are responding to your own issues. You're not "destined" or constrained by your chart and transits, YOU are driving the bus!
I wish I could find the exact quote I like that goes something like "it is said that the more evolved/advanced the entity, the less of a role astrological placements in your chart will play -- they're not needed." If we don't learn our lessons the first few times we're challenged, then sooner or later the Big Guys (Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto) will waltz in to get the job done!!  From Howard Sasportas' The Twelve Houses: quote:
Some students are very troubled by empty or untenanted houses – that is, a house in which no planets are found. Because there are only ten planets to go around the twelve houses, invariably certain houses will be untenanted. This does not mean that nothing is happening in that area of life. Nor does it necessarily imply that the area of life in question is unimportant. Strictly speaking it is incorrect to say that a house is empty. Even though there may be no planets in that house, there is still a sign (or signs) placed there which will influence that sphere of experience. Thus, the first step in interpreting what is happening in an untenanted house is to relate the qualities of the sign or signs found there to the area of life associated with the house in question. The second step is to refer to the planet which rules the sign on the cusp of the ‘empty’ house. What house is the ruling planet in? What sign is the ruling planet in? How is the ruling planet aspected? In this way, we glean a great deal of information about the house in question. The third step is to examine the planet which rules any other signs found in that house (not just the sign on the cusp). Where is that planet by house, sign, and aspect?
Obviously a house with many planets in it is very important, but we should not overlook the significance of so-called empty houses. Should the planet ruling the sign on the cusp of an empty house be the focal point for a particular chart shaping, such as the handle to a bucket type chart or the leading planet of a locomotive shaping, then the affairs of the house in question could figure prominently in the native’s life. The empty house might also contain the missing element to a T-square and this would increase the relevance of that area of life in contributing to the overall balance of the person’s psyche.
'Zala IP: Logged |
sdg1844
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posted November 27, 2005 01:41 PM
I have an "empty" 7th house as well. Thanks for the info Zala! I have Pisces ruling the 7th, but I also have Sun, Mars and Venus Squaring Pluto which makes me a bit of a "challenge" in the relationship dept. LOL  ------------------
Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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Azalaksh
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posted November 27, 2005 02:36 PM
I too have an ‘empty’ 7th house, 29 Aquarius on the cusp and most of Pisces within. A good percentage of my relationships have been with Water Asc men. My Uranus is accidently dignified in the 11th in Cancer, so with Aqua on the 7th cusp, my partners are my best friend as well as lover. And I have always had what might be deemed “unusual or eccentric” relationships! Pisces’ ruler Neptune is in the 3rd house, part of my Libra stellium, so even though my 7th is ‘empty’ there’s a good bit of focus on the life experiences which are the domain of the 7th. With nSaturn at 29 Libra almost exactly trining my Aqua Dsc, there is Karma to be paid back and lessons to be learned in the Relationships Dept – perhaps this is why I chose to incarnate as a Libra! ‘Zala IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted November 27, 2005 02:46 PM
My Sun is at the very edge of my 7th House. It's literally only hanging in there by like 6 minutes. Most places seem to just rush my Sun into the 8th House, but I don't think so. That interpretation never holds up for me.Yeah, that was kind of off topic, but I thought I'd throw that in there. However, I don't think that an empty 7th House should impact your life too greatly. There are only 10 planets, but there are 12 Houses, so at least 2 houses are going to be empty. IP: Logged |
Jools
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posted November 28, 2005 06:25 AM
"it is said that the more evolved/advanced the entity, the less of a role astrological placements in your chart will play -- they're not needed." Wow. I love astrology, but I think I might just love that quote more. IP: Logged |
wilsontc
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posted November 28, 2005 07:40 PM
future,You said:
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I have an empty 7th and there is a huge focus in my life on relationships. I have a stellium in Libra in the 10th, but I don't know if that means anything.
Since Libra is all about relationships, this indicates the interest in relationships. I would suggest that, with a focus in the 10th house (duty, also structure) there may be a focus in how to behave in a relationship or what sort of relationships are "appropriate". An empty house simply indicates there is no focus on the issues of that house. So you probably don't have relationships simply to be in relationships (i.e., you are not always focused on what the OTHER person wants in every situation you are in), but instead have relationships for some structured, definite purpose (such as to have a family). In looking at empty houses in a chart, the planet that rules the sign on the cusps (edges) of the empty houses rules the house. For example, from your chart, Cancer is ruled by Moon (home), indicating that your relationships may have "home" concerns. However, YOU know YOUR life best. If you feel that you want to focus on relationships, then focus away! Explaining, Tim IP: Logged | |
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