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Kay Libra
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posted November 28, 2005 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi does anyone know I should interpret this? I have Venus transiting my 7th house and Pluto transiting my 7th house at the same time. I'm seeing someone but don't know if I wish to take it to another level because it said something about being "tricked" (Pluto 7th house)??!?!?! Umm don't know..any help would be great. Thanks

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astro junkie
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posted November 30, 2005 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bumped to top*

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SweetCappie
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posted November 30, 2005 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am dealing with transiting Pluto in my 7th house since the 90s and will stay until 2007. Its now conjuncting my natal Venus/Merc in Sag. I been having a hard time with all relationships (manipulation or intense emotions) and I hope you have better luck dealing with Pluto!

Here's some info from Dkfoundation:
Venus

By Transit

When Venus transits the house of which it is the natural ruler a person tends to become very responsive to others. At this time their opinions and responses tend to become increasingly important, and self-worth becomes more closely bound than usual with their approval.

A person who is not in an intimate relationship at this time may feel this absence very keenly and may become very concerned with trying to find a partner.

In his dealings with associates and partners of all kinds, a person tends to be more amenable and complacent under this transit.

Pluto

By Transit

A transit of Pluto to the 7th House has the effect of exposing the unconscious patterns, which are at work in a person’s relationships.

As with any Plutonian activity anywhere in the chart, its effects can be chaotic and traumatic in the 7th House. Yet, because Pluto, when acting through H7, so often has the effect of challenging the comforting belief that another has the power to ‘make things right’ this transit can be productive of particularly painful situations. This is made even more likely if H7 is tenanted.

Uranus, when it transits H7, can be equally disruptive, but Uranian energy is more sassy and makes a person receptive to those changes, which it is effecting. Pluto undertakes only to expose the sabotaging patterns, and offer a person the opportunity to understand the fears and complexes, which affect the way he approaches his relationships.

The overall pattern of the chart, together with the nature of the planets that tenant H7, will indicate whether the dominant fear a person experiences in his relationships, is the possibility of abandonment and rejection or a loss of individual freedom, and whether this fear is likely to result in a controlling behaviour or a willingness to be controlled.


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Cap sun, Cancer moon (1st), Gemini rising, stellium in Sag (7th house).

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SweetCappie
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posted December 01, 2005 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've become very aware of my relationship patterns and behaviors which affect the outcome of my relationships. All of this awareness happens when my relationships end and then its like I'm hit with a big lesson to learn. I haven't yet learned how to resolve my issues yet so I keep going thru the same relationship patterns. PLUTO has been the major transit drudging up these issues so that I can consciously act on changing them. I think that is the major lesson that Pluto is trying to teach when it transits the 7th house is: be aware of your issues & learn to correct them so you'll have better intimate relationships! If anyone has anymore Pluto information please divulge!

Some more info on Pluto and Venus-Pluto affecting the relationship sector (cafeastrology.com):
Venus-Pluto: desire total commitment and intimacy with their partners. They may attempt to control or possess their partners, or they attract partners who are controlling. They can be quite dramatic about their affections.

Pluto: can signify a person who totally identifies with their relationships, sometimes to the point of obsession. In their attempts to control the direction of their relationships, they can create dependencies in both themselves and their partners. They may fear being abandoned, and go to great lengths to keep their partner attached to them. This fear can be a self-fulfilling prophecy, as the very methods they may use to keep their partner attached to them may drive their partner away in the end. The need to experience an intense attachment is present. Manipulativeness may be a theme. When we manipulate our partners, we are effectively telling ourselves that we cannot affect our environments in a healthy, direct way, and we undermine ourselves as well as others. We fear that we are ineffective. When we strive for power in our relationships, we may tell ourselves that we are looking for ways to get closer to our mates, but in fact we are actually alienating ourselves from them. However, a positive expression of Pluto as a significator of relationships is the ability to attain intimacy and intensity without the need for subversive tactics.

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Cap sun, Cancer moon (1st), Gemini rising, stellium in Sag (7th house).

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SweetCappie
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posted December 01, 2005 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KayLibra:
have you noticed any of the above issues playing out in your relationships or partnerships? I think you're a Gemini rising too, right? So you probably had Pluto transiting your 7th house for several years now, if not, then be prepared because it won't exit the sign of Sagittarius until 2008.

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SweetCappie
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posted December 01, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm doing alot of research on Pluto transits to 7th house so I'll be posting whatever I find.

Here's something that may answer your question (source: http://therealastrology.com/HTML/ASKKEVIN/990215a.html)
"No, Pluto does not necessarily carry issues of infidelity or betrayal with it. It can, of course, but it’s not an interpretation that I would think of under normal circumstances. When Pluto transits Venus, we often experience a period where our relationships become far more intense. What is being challenged here are our values and our ideas of how relationships are structured. Relationships can certainly go through rough times when one partner is having a Pluto-Venus transit, but just as often, this can be a time when the emotional connection grows significantly deeper."

About starting a relationship during this transit--well all I can say is get to know your partner very, very well before committing. Nowadays people date and settle down too fast (within 6 months) and that is very little time to really know and understand a person's psyche and how they relate.

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Kay Libra
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posted December 01, 2005 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet Cappie, I'm still wet behind the ears here but when transits occur does the same rules apply. I'm a little confused because they're transiting 7th house because of my solar return chart. I've seemed to always have the same relationship patterns and now I'm trying to correct them so that I don't go that way again. Also I have Venus-Conjunct Pluto and I can relate totally. I'm a Leo rising.

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SweetCappie
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posted December 01, 2005 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If its the solar return chart transit then its the same interpretation as a regular transit to a natal chart. I would assume this means you will have to deal with some Pluto issues with your relationships for the time period of your solar return. Being that you are already working on it, this could mean that Pluto is just helping you become more aware so you could destroy those patterns.

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lllog
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posted December 01, 2005 04:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto transiting your 7th house - Pluto’s transit through your 7th house will bring a new or renewed relationship that will transform your life. If you are in a close relationship already, events will force you to redefine that relationship to better serve both of your needs. Tensions that may have been building up in your relationships over time will erupt during this transit. If you are not in a close relationship, this is not the time to get into one with the intention to make it a life long commitment. Any relationship now will be intense and provide short term enjoyment and fulfillment, but don’t focus on long term goals. This is not to say that relationships started now won’t result in long term relationships, they may, but don’t make that your underlying criteria. Most tensions encountered during this transit are not because of the other individuals involved, but are only mirrors of your own inner psychic needs and impulses. In effect, the tensions involved reflect your inner struggles.

Of course any aspects that Pluto makes while transiting your 7th House will modify its meaning to some extent.

I don't consider the inner planets in transits, because their time in a house is relatively short.

Lanny

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