posted December 05, 2005 05:42 AM              

When transit Saturn was conjunct my Venus, I had also other transits going on, Pluto was sitting on my Vertex, and Chiron on my IC, and Natal Saturn sqaure transit Saturn, i was only 21 and the relationship I had then had an age difference (not 14 years). But shop, aren't all relationships FATED?

But to be honest, I would go ahead with the label 'fated' because of all the Saturnian qualities it had, it was not a happy, typical relationship, and it didn't last long, but its impact was intense, there were a lot of self-reflections, intensity, transformations and lessons, plenty of lessons learned and APPLIED in the future. Oh, and guess what, I ran into that person 6 months ago, which is 7 years later (during my Saturn return) and it is as if we didn't have closure back then and after 7 years, in a 30 minutes chat, everything fell into place, Saturn is a tough teacher...and the person in question was a Capricorn, how ironic! The theme of separation-reunion was common, and after 7 years, it was evident that it still was a recurrent theme, at least from the Saturn's person point of view.

Fated, and Karmic relationships are not usually pleasant ones in the typical sense, but they offer insight and plenty of lessons to be learned about yourself and relations in general. It doesn't have to be this dramatic, of course, but this is my own experience, I hope it helps

posted December 09, 2005 02:28 PM              

And he was (is) very cold, harsh, and mean-spirited about it.

It was heartbreaking to me. I couldn't believe that he couldn't forgive me. I begged for his forgiveness, to no avail. I was going through the ringer emotionally, as he was getting colder and meaner as time went by. No such thing as "time heals all wounds" with him.

It seemed like he simply didn't want to be loved, nor love back. In fact, he seemed to despise it altogether, and he was very hurtfull toward me.

posted December 10, 2005 01:12 AM            

been there done that

Why is it that with Cancer and Taures if there is anything off with money, they can be petty and unforgiving? For 2 signs that seek love I think they would seriously consider the money over love.

You're facing trust issues that he'll never get over like this. Change your tack, Shrug your sholders, say what the hell I'm a human being, I make mistakes, it wasn't intentional or malicious and if it bothers you that much, you should go. Leave it at that if he comes back he'll eventually work through his issues, if he doesn't I have a feeling it will turn out to be his loss.

You knew that didn't you

posted December 10, 2005 09:20 AM              

But, yeah - I know it's his loss.

thanks, lala.

posted December 10, 2005 09:50 AM              

I have an ex b/f with Venus in Cancer trine Saturn, and he was no picnic with money either. He had to control all of it, down to ordering our food, and organizing all trips. If I tried to organize anything he simply would act cold and withdraw. Everything I did for money, work, was controlled by him, by his moods.

It's true, just remember you are a human and you are not perfect but so what? You are loved by lots of people and they can't be wrong.

Eventually your ex will have to see his mistakes, he has so much trouble dealing with his own feelings he is taking it out on you. Once he is finished venting he will be happy.

Hey I am a Taurus but all the men I meet don't have any money, or ask me to split the check-These days you have to be a cool chick to be with a man and I'm not a cool chick. I am not perfect!

Accept that Taurus women while not independent, do believe their other half is everything and without love there is nothing-that's worth it I believe. Plus we are the most loyal and faithful women, and faithful behaviour just isn't valued in today's society.

posted December 10, 2005 11:21 AM              

Disillusionment, disappointment, and harsh lessons.

I'm ok - just a small glitch in the grand scheme of things. So, I got my heart broke - it's good for your soul's growth.