posted December 17, 2005 09:30 PM              

Are you an Aries..mars? I am..and my bf's a Libra.
I know you might get a few replies that say Libras are players lol.. but I think they're pretty faithful. They like the idea of having a relationship WITH one person, not ten dozen.. the point is finding the one person.. so yes before they find the right girl, they might date a few people.. but when they do they're very faithful.

I guess you *know*, if he tells you, if he's there, if he says he loves you, if he really wants a relationship. Before he actually says it and you both make it clear that you are in a relationship, I don't really think there's a way to know whether or not he’s just playing around.

Libras don't have an issue with saying it though, if they feel it..so if he does love you he'll let you know..if he does want a relationship he'll make that clear. If he doesn't makes this clear.. then maybe he just doesn't feel that strongly (yet anyways)

And the girls, I mean, they usually have ten dozen female friends. They prefer the company of women to men, mainly because they are a Venus sign. Men are too rough and tough and annoying to them. And, yes a lot of these girl have crushes on them to, but oh well. I don't think that should be such a big deal. I wouldn't personally mind at all, as long as I know he's with me and I can trust him to be there. In my opinion, you can definitely trust a Libra guy, once he's made a commitment.

Btw I'm talking about the typical example, I guess.. You could post his chart if you want. If he has ten dozen planets in Sag for instance, he may never settle down.. so this isn't set in stone.

Your first question..

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how do u deal with libra men, especially when they're extremely mad and said some pretty spiteful stuff to you?

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I've only been in this situation once with my bf, but that was because I started yelling at him like a maniac over something completely unimportant. Libras are pretty calm. I mean, even then, I yelled and I yelled..and he was calm..but how much can a person take? so eventually he snapped. I don't think anyone can make a Libra guy angrier than an Aries girl.. lol seriously..and I’m pretty calm for an Aries, but that particular time I was strangely angry.. I've never seen him that mad ever.. it was kinda strange.

posted December 18, 2005 03:01 AM              

... " Libras are pretty calm." - Agreed. My husband is not one to argue or, rock any boats.... with one exception... he gets very irritated by yelling of others. It seems, thus far, his ' had it ' point....

" I don't think anyone can make a Libra guy angrier than an Aries girl.. lol seriously.. "

...hehehe.... I would almost be willing to bet.... but, in my Libra's case, he married me ( a Gemini ), and in my own world, I don't yell.... not always... I am, simply, very passionate when I communicate my feelings...
Even in as much as this behavior aggrovates him though, he keeps me around.
As far as knowing if they "fell" or not, I am of the opinion that, Libra or not, the best way to get close to any true answer... go to the source of the question.... it's only as hard as one makes it really...

posted December 18, 2005 03:49 AM              

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Yeah, how do u deal with libra men, especially when they're extremely mad and said some pretty spiteful stuff to you?

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how do you forgive a libra man whose
hatred knows no boundaries and still
wants to utterly destroy your life 10
years after the relationship is over?

who remains enraged because he couldn't
accept your desire to break up with
him and still resents, with pathological
fury, all your subsequent relationships?

how do you break free of the clutches
of such libran obsession?

i'm almost all fire and earth, and these
airy grudges escape me.

posted December 18, 2005 08:49 AM              

Well I also know my Libra boss paid for prostitute just to keep him a company and not for SEX.Office gossip...too bad.

As Lauren said it's just because they are happy to talk to women more than men. I didn't knew but just realized yesterday while talking to Libra Sun colleague.

posted February 18, 2006 12:23 AM              

I might seem a very quiet person if u don't know me.........but i have a pretty strong personality (stubborn, fiesty at times...etc.)

Ouch......he saw ur posts. I don't know, but from experience w/ my friend.......he absolutely hated someone talking about him to anyone else. I've put the info about him and I in another post called are we compatible feb 17 2006.

Basically i'd like to know what both of our temperaments r, and u'll know why from that post, and see if it's worth a shot to try to reconcil (after backbiting behind his back 3 times)

It's this thing where I don't like to be emotionally out of control.......and if i can't do anything about it.....i'd rather cut off and do things that hurt the other person than to show that i have feelings(is it the saturn in scorpio thing?), which i'm sure he knows by now, cuz i complimented him a lot and a couple of times i've told him that i liked him, but stopped ever since.

Maybe i'm reading too much into this.....but if someone tells u that they've respected u more than anyone else (but u didn't know until the damage was done), would that mean that they have feelings for u....or just a friendship thing?

posted February 18, 2006 12:48 AM              

The best way to deal with a Libra who's angry and spiteful, is to calmly point out to him that he is being rude and spiteful. Also, if you can, point out to him how anything he said was unfair. Libra hates emotional upset and unfairness, even -- perhaps especially -- his own. If you can behave better than he does while he's throwing his tantrum, it won't last long. Don't feed his anger by throwing your own back at him -- because then it's only fair that he yell, too. Get it?

I think Lauren's right about "you will *know*, if he tells you...". The easiest lie for Libra to tell is a lie of omission. In other words, if someone presses a Libra to do something he doesn't want to do (like make a committment), his easiest way out is to say nothing (or as little as possible). So if he clams up and gets tight-lipped, he's not ready. He either doesn't want the relationship, and knows this -- or he still hasn't made up his mind. But when a Libra decides he wants to be with someone, it's impossible for him to hide. In your case, his Capricorn ascendant might make him a little quieter, shyer, and less verbal than the average Libra, but I'd say his Libra Sun will still be able to send out clear signals of one form or another.

And salome, just for the record -- obsession isn't a Libran issue, I think it's a that-particular-person issue. Even less Libran is the kind of hatred you describe -- holding onto grudges is too much painful weight for your typical Libra to carry around.

freebird, the thing about your boss paying for just company: I could imagine myself doing something like that -- maybe just because I felt bad for the woman and wanted to give her some money. Got a story of my own for ya: I once baked a cake for someone else's hooker. What can I say? It was her birthday -- and when isn't it a good time for cake???

* Heading off to find something sugary now...

posted February 18, 2006 01:01 AM              

shop22.......y would u run away? is it that bad?

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=&adl=19&ast=433%2C+16&gm=a1&btyp=2&sday=18&syr=2006&asp=1&zod=&lang=e&orbp=&mth=gw&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&hsy=&smon=2&nhor=2&go.x=]
That's my chart

and this is his: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&asp=1&sday=18&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C+1]

This is the composite: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=2&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&asp=1&sday=18&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C]

posted February 18, 2006 01:05 AM              

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freebird, the thing about your boss paying for just company: I could imagine myself doing something like that -- maybe just because I felt bad for the woman and wanted to give her some money. Got a story of my own for ya: I once baked a cake for someone else's hooker. What can I say? It was her birthday -- and when isn't it a good time for cake???

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YUMMY !!!

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ha, i dont...i run (not walk) the other way....

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posted February 19, 2006 12:41 AM              

*Sun square Moon*

*Mars conjunct Venus*

*Jupiter square Venus and Mars*

** Uranus conjunct Jupiter / square Venus / square Mars **

Neptune trine Venus / conjunct Ascendant ( able to 'project' beauty .. no doubt .. if the Asc be the 'front door' .. what realy lies behind it ? )

***Pluto conjunct Saturn / conjunct MC / square Moon / conjunct Sun ***

** Chiron trine Mercury / square Venus / square Mars / opposite Jupiter / opposite Uranus **

and i wonder .. after reading that lot .. where natal Lillith be placed ??
especialy in the synastry / composite ...
the sign Libra is primarily about 'relationships' ... ( not just the bf .. g/f type .. )
with Pluto conjoining the Sun .. your likely to get one that's quite 'intense' .. potentialy 'obsessive' and 'controlling' ..
.. the Uranus aspects are potentialy volatile as Jupiter will 'expand' the effect of the square aspects ..
(to Venus and Mars) .... ..
.. he might want 'beautiful relationships' .. but with those aspects ... it's going to be a long road ..
.. an easy going 'everything is beautiful ' type person he aint ..
.. the outward appearance may be beauty via the ascendant ... but ..
.. many internal conflicts and 'relating' challenges ....

i would take a closer look at his chart ..*** go see an astrologer who can explain the lot to you ..***
... know what your getting into ... he certainly doesn't have an easy chart to deal with ...
librans need relationships .. to some even a bad relationship is better than none ...
you may even get the 'game playing' and 'total two face' from a negative one ...
.. quite capable of being nice in front of your face .. and nasty behind it ..
( sometimes within earshot of yourself .. bit of manipulative game playing as well )
.. you might even get to hear the word 'deal' when it comes to relating with them ....
and don't forget .. libra is the 'cardinal' air sign .. as in they are natural 'initiators' ..
.. and that their opposite sign is Aries .. you will see the arien side now and again ......
you want an idea of a postive Libran .. look to respected diplomats and military leaders ..
your bound to find librans amongst them ...
like all the Sun signs .. .. .. you get positive ones and negative ones .. .. .. ...
so in reality your guy could have any Sun sign .. and still be difficult in character ..

how to deal with your guy ? ... very difficult i would have thought ...
maybe find an easier going character ... libran or otherwise ....

posted February 19, 2006 02:22 AM              

**mars446**
regarding Chiron in a persons chart .. the following be from one of those links ..
the list gives you the main themes behind those two placements .. the Sun .. and Chiron ..
and how they may .. or may not .. work within a chart ...

* * * * * * * * * *
The Sun:

Individual destiny
Sense of meaning
Hope for the future
Self-confidence
Generosity
Individual identity apart from family and collective
The power to create
The ability to play

* * * * * * * * * *
Chiron:

Collective failings and flaws
Disillusionment
Failed ideals
Inescapable wounding
Bitterness and cynicism
Physical and psychological damage

Acceptance of mortal limits

Quest for understanding
Compassion

* * * * * * * * * *
The Sun working against Chiron:

Depression
Loss of confidence
Sense of permanent damage
Cynicism
Expectation of failure
Sense of victimisation or scapegoating
Desire to victimise or scapegoat others
Projection of inferiority on others
Loss of the will to live

* * * * * * * * * *
The Sun working with Chiron:

posted February 19, 2006 07:26 PM              

As long as you can stick to your end, I find that hard to do sometimes.

Boy do i ever get Libras mad
Sag Mars/1st house.