posted December 18, 2005 06:42 PM              

My IC is Virgo, I have lots of Virgo relatives from my mum's side, dad's side and my step dad's side. I love having Virgo relatives.

posted December 19, 2005 12:29 PM              

I found the hypothesis very interesting. My 4th House Cusp is in Leo. But I do not have not one relative who is a Leo. I do have many Planets in the 4th as well, but none of those match relatives either.

I'm wondering if the IC is a point of projection though. So although the relatives are not of that Sign, they may project on to YOU the issues of that Sign when it comes to all things 4th House.

For example: Having a 4th House Cusp in Leo making the Natal one feel as if they need to be a "shining star" when it comes to all things 4th House.

So in reality, those relatives are not really "the Leo's", but rather, project those issues back to the Natal person. The fact may be that they are not pressuring anyone to be a "shining star", but that's the impression the Natal person gets.

Very interesting topic. Thanks for briging it up!

posted December 19, 2005 07:47 PM              

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So although the relatives are not of that Sign, they may project on to YOU the issues of that Sign when it comes to all things 4th House.

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That's a great idea AJ. I don't really feel pressured by family members. But I do feel the need to act more Virgo-like I guess. I always tell them about studying and what job I'm trying to get (though I'm not actually trying to get a job these holidays lol)..but I know they like to hear that sorta thing. I tend to talk about things I'm doing, or planning to do.. mainly when it comes to working on something or buying something etc.

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fourth house also signifies conditions at the end of your life

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That's interesting. What do you think mine would signify Lalalinda?

It's in Virgo at 00°36'15. It conjuncts Ceres by 2 deg, trines Mars/Neptune/DC (Capricorn), trines Venus(29 Aries) and NN (0 Taurus), opposite Jupiter/Vesta/MC.

posted December 20, 2005 02:18 AM            

It often happens that the same sign repeats itself through grandparent/parent/kid's ASC/Sun/Moon.

e.g. My nan (daddy's mom) is a Scorp (Moon in Aqua), my dad has Moon in Scorp (ASC in Aqua), my brother has ASC in Scorp, my niece has Moon in Scorp (Aqua and Uranus in the 1st).

My other nan (mom's mom) had Sun in Cap, my mom has Moon in Cap (ASC in Sag), I have ASC in Cap (Moon in Sag)

posted December 20, 2005 11:08 AM              

One of my son is virgo, I have few virgo cousins but I can't say the most of them are virgos.

What I've noticed interesting long ago and because this topic remaind me of this I like to share it with you now, is that around the point where is my IC and MC, but mostly IC I have the most numbers of acquaintances born around that date!

Which is 2-3-4 september =before my IC= and also around 15-19 september =after my IC=
But main ones are 4th september and 19th september they are in the top!

The acquaintances are not necessary all very close to me, quite mixed up ... some close friends, some not so close, some family members of my dearest friends or my husband's, or job or school collegues a.s.o. I have an agenda where i wrote all people's (I met) birthdays and around that days pages are full!!! I don't know why!?! And other days IF I know 1-2 or maximum 3 people born in the same day!

That time I was thinking maybe I can correct my exact IC by this because my IC is in between this area. But somebody told me is not any connection, I mean is not wright to correct it like this.
In opposition the second most common birthdays of people I know are around 12-15 march which is after my MC! they aren't exactly opposite!

posted December 20, 2005 11:21 AM              

I have Cap IC conjunct Jupiter. In my birth family there are 2 Sag Moons, 2 Sag Asc., and 1 Sag Sun.

Among my 4 children there are 2 Capricorn Moons, and I Moon conj Saturn.

posted December 20, 2005 09:34 PM              

Peri,

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It often happens that the same sign repeats itself through grandparent/parent/kid's ASC/Sun/Moon.

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I've noticed this as well. It's very interesting. I wonder why this happens. I guess it could be karma.

Rev Alice,

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Edgar Cayce said that we incarnate in "soul groups." Perhaps the IC refers to that.

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I haven't read about this, but I'm sure someone mentioned we also apparently pick out the souls we want (or need) to meet in this incarnation. Would this mean we might also pick out our families?

Alma,

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What I've noticed interesting long ago and because this topic remaind me of this I like to share it with you now, is that around the point where is my IC and MC, but mostly IC I have the most numbers of acquaintances born around that date!

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That's similar to what I've noticed. My MC is Pisces and I've always met Pisceans through school, uni and anywhere I go basically.. There's always one or a couple of Pisces ppl I get close to in every group I end up in lol

posted December 21, 2005 09:16 AM              

The planets that are there (if any) also show things

posted December 21, 2005 10:05 AM              

If you can't pick out a new family most likely I have noticed those who stay with their birth families, change them in some way and work on emotional changes.

Those who pick out new families tend to make bigger splashes in the outside world.

I have seen some trends in IC placements but it's varied. I couldn't really commit to any theory involving the IC.

Except one-those with a water sign or planet on the IC tend to stick to mother figures-

Natasha
IC Pisces, closest planet is Venus

posted December 21, 2005 10:14 AM            

My brother is a Virgo and My mother is a Libra with a Virgo moon & rising along with several planets in Virgo