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SparklingSag
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posted January 05, 2006 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear everyone,

I seem to be struggling at the moment. Had an argument with my mum and she told me i never seem grateful for money and am completely unaware of my spending. I never listen and seem as if Im better or know stuff better.

I understand that i may have been reckless with money and will take responsibility for that...but sometimes I feel as if she thinks i have no feelings at all. I do though! I feel really vulnerable at times but when I do, i cover it up with smiles or a regal manner.

So, help...will i ever be sensitive enough for my mum? Also in an arguement, i tend to go cold..maybe my Cappie asc?

Sparkling

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marsconjunctmercury
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posted January 05, 2006 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Sagittarius Sun, Moon in Leo, and Cancer rising with Saturn conjunct my Ascendant (orb 3 degrees).
That's always been my thing. To cover it up like it was benath me to not be on best form all the time, making people laugh and exuding a carefree attitude. My Saturn placing has made this exteremly hard though. I had more to cover up than most, and mostly in the home.
I have been VERY wasteful with money. I have to sort it out one day though because i still don't own a house - cue my endless faith that everything will eventually be alright.
I haven't been helped out by my parents. My mum is bankrupt, and my dad is a total c*ck.
I think if you're like me SparklingSag it's true to say you are sensitive to others but useless at seeing your own needs are met. Afterall who are we to have nice stable,secure, and happy lives? Surely that's for other people?
You probably haven't done anything to harm anyone else, but yourself. Does that make you insensitive. Quite the opposite. I speak from experience.
I must admit thought that the crtch of the arguement might simply come down to Cancer vs. Capricorn rising. Total opposites maybe. I'm not sure how my Saturn placing would confound this dichotomy?

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Kat
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posted January 05, 2006 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SS,
I think what's going on with your Mom has nothing to do with astrology and everything to do with the stage of life your in.

Here's Mom pointing out your flaws and telling you what to do. I can't think of anything better to tick someone off. Of course your going to distance yourself. Who likes to be told what to do! I'm 42 and when people try to tell me what to do -ooooo! do I get mad!! I'll even intentionally not do what someone tells me to do even if it's good for me - just because they're trying to control me. (so the clue here is deal with your Mom because you'll find the way that you react to her continues throughout life with bosses, friends, partners...)

I'm not sure how old you are but rest assured you do have a warm spot and as you get older you'll gain more skills in dealing with money and people.

Is it your money she's upset over or her money your spending? Consider if there is truth in your spending and whether you could improve in this area. Don't make the issue about you being "bad" or laying a guilt trip on yourself.

Remember some people learn by taking advice from others while some learn by getting burned. The choice is yours.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted January 05, 2006 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best female-friend is an Aries Sun, Leo Moon and Sagittarius Rising, with only three planets in non-fire signs- Venus-Taurus, Saturn-Scorpio, and Pluto-Libra- and she doesn't hold anything back. She's quite insensitive and she doesn't care. Its part of her charm. She knows who are her friends and who are not and doesn't care if you can't take the tough, tough, tough love.

She's an awesome friend for a fun time or when you need a dose of reality or simply a fighter for your cause.

However, she is very unaware that people can live different lives than her. If she opposes a view of mine, I get completely ridiculed by her.

Once I scratched my cornea and it's stinging and burning was terrible and I couldn't open my right eye, all she could say was "stop being a baby". This was pretty amazing coming from an Aries, with their low threshold for pain. She whines and complains for hours after something like a stubbed toe, but while I sit in silence with my eye stinging, she can't seem to remember all the instances where she has had a hard time.

Is she insensitive? Completely. A hypocrite? 100%.

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bullhead
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posted January 05, 2006 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sagg rising here and bankrupt is my middle name. LOL

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pidaua
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posted January 05, 2006 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL....well..I'm a Sag Sun / Aries moon / Virgo rising.. I can be a real pain.. but... as you get older things tend to change.

I am not sure about everyone's age, but when I was a teen and in my 20's I would say careless things. My mother is a Cancer Sun / Cancer Moon / Scorp rising. She had to live with two Saggies (my bro has a Scorp moon / Merc in Sag... so you can imagine his sharp tongue).

As you go through life you start to recognize the look in the eyes of the people you have offended. You will read their subtle cues and go from there. It WILL happen or else we Archers would not live to our normal old age since the Scorps in this world would have already taken us out for our HUGE mouths LOL.....


Seriously though.. I do find that there are times I say things completely wrong and offend the one I am with - if they are the overly sensitive type. I was with a Taurus (Venus in Cancer conjuncting his Saturn) that would pout FOR DAYS when I said something to hurt his ego.

My new Taurus has a Sag moon and Mercury in Aries. He has said a couple of things that I took offense to, but then realized he had blurted them out wrong. We also become more forgiving of that flaw in other people because WE make those verbal mistakes all the time.

I promise that it will get better.. the sensitivity that is...

As for financial.. well, I can't offer too much advice. I have been very fortunate to land on my feet after either losing a job or taking out student loans. I also have a Virgo ascendant & I have never been much of a gambler or addict to things. Well, with the exception of shoes.. I love buying shoes and beauty supplies...LOL.. but I do tend to stop when the money is scarce.

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SparklingSag
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posted January 06, 2006 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey,

Kat - i think i would agree with you too. I'm 22 and back and forth from University and have just returned from 4 months in the US. So all is a little tense at the moment.

but I need my Cap asc to kick in! keep me on track.

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oddball
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posted January 06, 2006 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a sag sun, aqua moon, cancer rising (I'm about the closest thing to your twin here, marsconjunctmercury ). Whenever my mom lectures me (she's a scorpio btw), I will burst out laughing sometimes or tell a joke in the middle of her emoting. Then she's like "LISTEN to me!" Then I'm like "Don't worry, I'm listening." "Yea, but be serious about it!" Then I'm like "I don't care." Then it turns into a monologue, and I've teleported somewhere else while my brainstem keeps by body alive 'till she's gone. Sags are capable of very deep emoting imo, but its 'positive' emoting, whereas water signs display 'negative' emoting (btw I don't mean positive or negative as good or bad, just energy). Listen to her point of view and act upon it- she won't stop until you put your effort in to change. And also try and make her see your point of view objectively when she's emotionally neutral. Thats all I can say.

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