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SparklingSag
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posted January 10, 2006 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all,

I dont know whether it is the time of year or what but im feeling the lowest ive ever felt. I don't like who I am anymore or who ive become. My mum as I was leaving the house to come to the states for four months...i leaned over for a hug and kiss , she pulled away so I would have to kiss her. She said, "you need to learn to kiss others" and those were her parting words....

Im just feeling emotionally crushed ar the moment and I dont know what to do...

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Peri
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posted January 10, 2006 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Moon in Leo. I don't know its degree so either Saturn or black moon lilith transiting leo right now or chiron / neptune in aqua or mars in taurus/jupiter in scoprio give you a really hard time

In my opinion the best way to help it is to try and indulge (in a positive way) your Moon (=to satisfy your emotional needs) and that will make you feel more secure.

What appeases a Leo Moon?

hmm... attention, fun, opera, socializing...so do it! Go out, make friends and get a new hobby.

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noreenz
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posted January 10, 2006 10:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ouch, that was a lil harsh eh? However, she has made you look within, I don't think it was meant to crush you. So please, chin up, your mother seems wise.

Having a 23 year old Sag daughter myself, I can almost see why she may have said that...meaning sometimes I think my daughter may be too selfish, but aren't we all at one time or another? I think so too.

I know its hard right now, but soon you will be able to smile when reflecting on those words. She got her point across, she wasn't trying to hurt you.

Good for you for not brushing her words away or adopting an attitude.

Noreen

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lalalinda
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posted January 10, 2006 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
she probably felt rotten about it the minute you left. Let it go sweetie and know that she loves you.

good point peri
it could also be Pluto, depending on what is in late Sag.

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posted January 10, 2006 11:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do mothers seem to know the exact wrong thing to say to hurt their children--not matter how unintentional it may be??

I'm a Sag asc and moon and am way down as well. Hell and Sag's are supposed to be the happy go lucky's of the zodiac...

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Rev. Alice
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posted January 10, 2006 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a MAJOR transit in the late degrees of Sagittarius--about 22-26. If your Sun or Mercury are there, you will be feeling it.
The meaning of this is Metamorphosis---a metamorphosis of the very essence of you with the Sun--a metamorphosis of your mind/consciousness--perhaps your belief system, if it is hitting Mercury.

This is a "butterfly transit" involving a period when you are "bound up" in a cocoon, then a struggle to get out of the cocoon, and finally the emergence of a beautiful new you--and flight! The difficulty is that it takes about two years to complete--more if several planets are involved.

Gemini's in the same degrees will be experiencing the oppositions, which are also major. Some Virgos and Pisceans near those degrees will be feeling the squares.

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You are a blessing and you are blessed.
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amisha121877
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posted January 10, 2006 12:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
emotional crisis be damned - i'm typing again. (sun sag, leo asc, aries moon :change

i side with your mom - giving kisses and hugs may help a bit. try a pillow if it seems too foreign to you. hug yourself once in a while, for starters, then stretch. when you see your mom again, hug and kiss her.

hey - how are one-on-one convos for you? do you or have you ever told someone you love them or do you get uncomfortable when someone says it to you?

also, tell yourself you love yourself - like, so what, about the other ish. tell yourself to stop raining on your parade.

hope you are pulling through as i type. luck.


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BlueTopaz124
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posted January 10, 2006 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hugs for you (((((SS)))))...I hope you're feeling better as you read this.

Are you and your mom exceptionally close? The reason I ask, is if so, maybe she was feeling the pangs of your four-month separation and kind of pulled back a little because she was smarting a bit? Did you recently break up from a relationship? Just a thought of what could be the cause...

I'm a Sag (Sun, Asc, Mars & Jupiter) too, so I know what it's like to be all bouncy one minute and have someone say someone to bring you crashing down...ouch. I tend to be a little stand offish in the touchy-feely department unless I know someone well.

Oh, us Saggies are a happy, bouncy lot most of the time, but we're also a lot deeper and carry more inside than we let on.

I can also relate to feeling blues-y right now...sort of blah. I hope it passes soon.


Laura

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posted January 10, 2006 09:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry to see you're feeling sad...
I think maybe your mom meant "let your light shine" so that people will see it and know how truly loveable you are.
Hugs,
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SparklingSag
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posted January 11, 2006 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear everyone,

Thank you so much for your support, it means alot to me. I appreciate it. I am feeling a little better today....am trying to see this new year as a time to reflect upon myself. And yes, I can see how people may think im standoffish and unaffectionate. But I have not been getting on with my mum for about a year...(my absent dad suddenly came back into the picture after 10 years- he wrote a letter).

As for relationships...there was a guy i really liked but when I was honest with him ..he said I was only his mate. In a way I was proud of myself for asking him...being vulnerable.

I sometimes feel like I make progress (In work, guys) but then go backwards. I've never had a long term relationship with a guy which is concerning me if Im honest. I do want to be committed to someone and show the world I love them.

Im taking up yoga as my new hobby, it might ground me a little:-)

Noreenz- thank you for your insight. How does your daughter act if you dont mind me asking?

thanks everyone, it is much appreciated:-)

Sparkling

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boo
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posted January 11, 2006 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sparkling,

Your mum's words dont sound all that bad to me.
It just sounds like she thinks you should give the affection once in a while; instead of waiting for someone to give it to you.
And that isnt bad advice at all.


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SparklingSag
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posted January 12, 2006 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boo - I see that side of it too. I am perhaps quick to get defensive....

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sweetlibra
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posted January 12, 2006 12:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are sags feeing low lately?
{{{hugs}}}

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Lialei
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posted January 12, 2006 09:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweetlibra, that was so very sweet.
{{{hugs}}}to you

SparklingSag, I'm a Sag with a Leo Moon too.
What are your other inner placements, if you don't mind me asking? (Merc, Venus, Mars, rising?)

My first thoughts when reading what your Mom said to you were 'uh-oh'. She most probably meant no harm in it, and it was just an observation (from her own perspective), but I can see the ways that might have made you feel as if she was saying that there is something wrong with you. That never feels good, especially if you're already feeling down.

If you're feeling unaffectionate and depressed, there is nothing wrong with that. Everyone gets that way from time to time. It will pass.
There is no way that a Sag with a Leo Moon can be unaffectionate or cold, I don't think, except in phases of introversion, and even then the feelings are still there, just not being outwardly expressed for the time being. It's a very warm combination.

If you're feeling isolation in your sorrow, it's even harder to come out of it, if you're critisized for it, or made to feel as if you're weird for it. That makes you feel even more isolated, doesn't it?

Well, sweetheart, just sending you a warm hug. I hope your'e not being too hard on yourself.
We're most often the hardest on ourselves, more than anyone else. Don't feel like you have to be Miss Cheerleader to please people. Whatever feelings you are having are natural, especially after what you just experienced (being turned down by him).
And yes, that WAS very Brave of you. Glad you feel good about that.

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SparklingSag
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posted January 12, 2006 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lialei

Was nice to read your message and to find another saggie with leo moon. I still feel not great but am finding good things in each day:-)

My other planets are

Mars and venus in libra (I feel that im always looking for a prince of some sort!)

mercury - Sag
Asc - Capricorn.

What rising sign are you? Cappie makes me look at times serious and a hard worker which I am...but get to know me and Im my saggie sun comes out.

Thanks again for your message,

Sparkling

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sthenri
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posted January 12, 2006 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this will help, but I have a Sag ascendant and Mars, with Sun trine Jupiter, and I almost never hug people first. I am changing that these past two years where I will always make the first move (always a hug), but I have never been known to be cuddly enough. people expect me to be much more cuddly than I am due to my love of bright colours and upbeat attitude and I can't change that, so I am becoming flexible.

I seem to be breaking new ground everywhere, first woman to do this, first woman to do that, what's next? Questions everywhere, not much comfort. Anything new is hard emotionally.

Chin up saggies.

Natasha
Taurus Sun/6th Trine Jupiter, Pluto, Uranus
Cancer Moon

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villy
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posted January 14, 2006 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, the Sagi colleague also behaved bit weirdly on Jan 10, though I was thinking it was my chart transit causing some ripples. I think everything is due to Venus retrogade.

Rev Alice - That’s interesting, butterfly transits. I guess I might be also having the metamorphosis of mind/consciousness/belief system. (Pisces Sun 20'50 squaring Sag 22, with natal Neptune at 26' in Sagi - Also am a Sagi Ascendant 7 deg 11)

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Planet_Soul
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posted January 14, 2006 05:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup I am def feeling crappy. I had a weird day with emotional turbulance at work and then go outside and my car is stolen ): Darn this really stinks. I was plannign on upgrading it, but didn't want to be FORCED into it, especially spur of the moment. Lucky stars my friend happened to walk out into the parking lot w me, or else I would of been stranded at 2 a.m.

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villy
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posted January 14, 2006 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ohh, your car got stolen ... Hope you get it back.
So which house of yours Venus retorgrading. Mine is 2nd house in Capri. Hope I dont' loose anything during this retro period, as 2nd house is related to money/material security.

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Lialei
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posted January 20, 2006 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to not have replied sooner, Sparkling
Thanks for sharing that.

the Prince Charming factor...ah, yes, I completely understand what you mean by that. I have Venus in Libra too.

Well, probably not only does your Cappy ascendant make you appear and be a bit more serious in some ways (curious, do you think it's more a shell/appearance than how you really are? I'm fascinated with rising signs in that way), the Leo Moon makes you a bit more selective in who you give affection to and allow to enter your 'Space'. It's totally not about being conceited in any way...just there is always a little boundary there at first. Once warmed by someone somehow, there is no limits to the affection a Leo Moon-Heart can give.

I have Taurus rising.
Hope you are feeling better these days.

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SparklingSag
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posted January 22, 2006 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lialei,
thanks for your reply. That is so true about my leo moon making me selective in who i love or am friends with. Once you have my repsect though i will adore you and be very loyal. Cappy Asc I am pleased to have, without it I wouldnt be very grounded at all..I need it to make me work and study well. However, I do think it makes guys pass me by..until they get to know me:-) I have both mars and venus in libra - thats quite a double whammy right? I feel like I am either too fiery or too much in the head. I like cancer signs cause they seem to soothe me and calm me down a little.

I am feeling better this week. Seeing the good in each day :-) and I am working on positive self esteem. I deserve a decent special guy to share my life with.

Sparkling

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