posted January 10, 2006 11:26 AM            

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...One of the most dominant questions I get asked during reading – what is my sense of purpose, what about my soul, my spiritual direction?

Let’s look at 2 words – soul and spirit. How to distinguish between them? Everyone has their own definition. Thomas Moore’s (author of Care of the Soul) describes soul as that which seeks lowly places. He defines spiritual as the spirit that seeks to rise. Spiritual is to transcend the personal, soul
is to get down in the personal, emotions, etc. He would say the soul tends to be melancholy.

Our culture doesn’t understand the soul. If the Mind = Air, Body = Earth, Spirit = Fire, then Soul = Emotions = Water. For people with lots of water in their chart – you can help them by redefining emotional states. Instead of saying you are “up or down” emotionally you can say “inward or outward.” Our culture has a bias against emotions, against being introspective or inward, and towards earthly doing. Even astrology programs do aspects to the M.C. and not the I.C.

Spiritual Houses

Water signs and water houses are very important. The 4th house is what is beneath our feet – home, roots, personal mythology, ancestors, where you live on the earth. The 4th house shows intimacy with oneself (intimacy with a partner is the 8th house, intimacy with God is the 12th house). The sign on the cusp will describe your attitude and what kind of environment you need to retreat to – your sanctuary...

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'Spiritual Indicators in the Birth Chart' by David Pond
http://www.azastrologers.org/articles.htm

posted January 10, 2006 12:27 PM            

"intimacy with God is the 12th house"

posted January 10, 2006 06:21 PM            

I drew red flames around the 1,5,and 9 on my chart, sparkling blue waves around the 4,8, and 12 house numbers and used Gold and Silver for earth and air. Now I will be able to memorize them and reference them easily.

posted October 17, 2008 05:58 PM            

So what would you say about these particular aspects in terms of 12th house:

12th house is ruled by Saturn, although 95% of the person's 12th house is in Aquarius, which is intercepted. The 12th house is empty.

Saturn is in Gemini AND conjunct the IC AND in retrograde AND is a singleton (since it is the only planet in the northern/lower half of the chart.

posted October 18, 2008 03:51 PM              

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted October 28, 2011 05:56 AM            

My water placements:

Jupiter, Pisces, 4th
moon, Cancer, 8th
Venus, Scorpio, 12th
Pluto, Scorpio, 12th

I've also read that the sign of Sagittarius is also connected to spirituality/philosophy/higher learning. I have a Sag ascendant and Uranus and Saturn in Sag, 1st house. Just curious to know what others think about that, if anyone has any input.

Many thanks if anyone replies and thanks to the original poster for this insight!

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*I use the whole sign system*

Libra Sun, Mercury
Scorpio Venus
Capricorn Mars
Cancer Moon

posted November 05, 2011 09:02 PM            

Occult type practices are the 8th.

posted November 06, 2011 05:52 PM            

Planets in the 9th or 12th or Sagittarius and Pisces ruled houses can probably be indicators.

posted November 09, 2011 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
I have heard Jupiter aspecting Neptune is a good one, probably because of the 9th/12th house connection. I have Jupiter trine Neptune exact and every description goes on about idealism and spirituality. I haven ‘t really found this in myself yet but I am always seeking so that can be a part of it.

Planets in the 9th or 12th or Sagittarius and Pisces ruled houses can probably be indicators.

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