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Arnicka
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posted January 11, 2006 03:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking over a chart of a friend w.our mutual friend [make sense?] & in their composite: unaspected Moon!

Of course, there are Moon aspects in their synastry, but in composite - Blank Land. Basically they're having issues w.each other rite now and was curious 2 look @ their charts.

Any one have info on unaspected Sun or Moon in composites? Seems to me that aspects at least 1 to each would be necessary, no?

Much appreciation for any insight/links

edit 2 add:
Read somewhere that in the composite the Sun shows the "purpose" of the relationship. So unaspected Sun = no purpose for being together?

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pixelpixie
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posted January 11, 2006 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone can oversome things in their chart.. solitary or composite, it is only a matter of want and will.
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That said.... every relationship has a purpose.. but what house are the Sun and Moon in.. does it make any out of orb aspect?
Is one a singleton? *thereby making the energy work alone and more impoortant instead of less important. No aspects could make it shine more brightly, or have more purpose rather than being coloured by the other planetary aspects.... Just a thought....

How about Venus aspects? Mercury? Neptune, Uranus, Pluto?

It would help to get a fuller picture.

How nice of you to look into this for them!

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lalalinda
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posted January 11, 2006 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
depending on what planet is unaspected, the Sun would represent him and the Moon her. I would look for a strong aspect in the comparison (preferrably hard with the unaspected planet) if nothing I would move on.

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wilsontc
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posted January 11, 2006 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnicka,

When a planet is unaspected in a chart it does not "connect in" with the energy of the chart. As a result, the energy becomes VERY strong since it always wants to "fit in" somewhere in the person's life. With an unaspected planet in a composite chart, it is the same, except that the lack of energy connection is in the RELATIONSHIP. With and unaspected Moon (home, also emotions), there may be STRONG emotional issues with this relationship. As your comment "...they're having issues w.each other rite now..." seems to indicate!

Emotionally,

Tim

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lllog
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posted January 11, 2006 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pixelpixie dear, unlike other charts, the composite chart isn't subject to change, since it is a static chart set by the individuals natal charts.

The individual's decision to accept or reject the type of relationship that the chart indicates,however is within the individual's power to decide for themseleves.

As far as aspected Luminaries, it certainly can affect the relationship in a positive or less positive manner, but the house location is just as important, and of course, there is always that to look at.

Lanny

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pixelpixie
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posted January 11, 2006 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lanny, are you saying, through will and desire, you can't overcome potentials in a composite chart?
That's the whole basis of Astrology.. it inclines toward attitudes and behaviours, but even Linda Goodman said many times, that if you have the desire, you can overcome any obstacles.

Yes, I am aware of the nature of a composite chart..... that it is a relationship chart, not an individual chart... but you choose your own destiny, ultimately....

I guess, because I KNOW what I am talking about.. though I respect your knowledge.... I take offense to the condescending tone, when you used the next sentnce to essentially say what I said.

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Arnicka
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posted January 11, 2006 10:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your responses, especially as this info is difficult to come across when perusing [sp?] astro sites out there

pixelpixie: Their composite Moon is in Pisces, solo in the 9th. I was just considering "major" ptolemic [sp?] aspects when looking at it, but now I see that it is quincunx Saturn w.4deg orb [located in the 4th]. I understand quincunx as being a type of "I dont see where youre coming from/I dont understand you" energy, but of course could be mistaken. The next closest "major" is a 9deg square to Uranus in the 5th. I dont see any singleton status by hemisphere/quadrant/element/modality. The Sun has the most aspects: trine Jup, Pluto, sext Mars, Neptune, conj Merc, sq Uranus. Oh and I dont know if this is being nice or just my busybody/curious self! Aqua Merc conj DC might be @ work

lalalinda: In their comparison the Moons are in square w. 2 deg orb [I guess this could account 4 difficulty on its own]. His Moon receives 5 major aspects, hers has 3. In another composite chart Im looking at [the reason Im asking about the Sun]: In the synastry its my Sun that receives no aspects save for a wide conjunction to his Juno [not major, of course]. His Sun is highly aspected. The composite Sun receives only a very weak sextile from Mars. But then the "male" as you say is the Sun.. so the fact that his Sun is highly aspected in the synastry, would that outweigh the lack of strong aspects to composite Sun? Hope I havent been confusing.

Tim: Whered'd you get all your astro knowledge, mister?! Ive noticed the "strength" you write about in unaspected natals, esp when its the Sun, for example.. very true. So if Im understanding then in composites, unaspected planets reveal themselves strongly, be it negative or positive, within the context of the relationship. So by this logic, if Im correct, would the Sun unaspected reveal ego confrontations of some sort, as the Moon unaspected can lead to emotional upsets? Of course there could be emotional upsets, confrontations in any relationship, so that they're unaspected -- that would mean that that energy for whatever reason is highlighted? Forgive please my run-ons/bad grammar. Saturn in the 3rd blah blah

lllog: Yes, I agree house position is important, but when faced w. lack of "major" aspects, one tends to wonder.. As I wrote above in another response [you might not have read so am re-writing it] the Moons are both receiving more than 1 major aspect in their synastries, so hopefully they're not at a complete loss w/each other! And I think all of us are aware of the fact that we can jump in or out of relationships [any sort] w. will, but as adults we have to be aware of consequences, etc. Posted this Q just for insight/help which I have been given by you and the others who were kind enough to respond. Re: composite charts don't change --> Do you look at transits to composites @ all and if so, how do you work those out? I'm mostly complete novice to composites so any other insight is appreciated. Not too much for my mushed brain, tho! I guess what Im asking is, In your opnion [or anyone else who'd like to respond] should transits to composites even be considered?

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wilsontc
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posted January 12, 2006 02:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnicka,

You said:

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would the Sun unaspected reveal ego confrontations of some sort, as the Moon unaspected can lead to emotional upsets?

That sounds right to me! Since the composite is the chart of the relationship itself and not the individuals in the relationship, it is harder to "adjust" than for personal charts. The energy of the composite tends to come out fairly "raw" and all the challenges hinted out in the aspects (or lack of aspects) are expressed.

Aspectfully,

Tim

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astro junkie
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posted January 12, 2006 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Unaspected Natal Sun ... it's like having more power than you know what to do with sometimes. It's sort of like a blessing and a curse. If the couple can understand just that simple thing, they can overcome a big hurdle and get down to the litty nitty gritty ditty ...

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teaologist
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posted March 19, 2007 03:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contradiction...

I have an unaspected 10th-house composite Sun with someone.

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An unaspected Sun in the composite chart can indicate a feeling that the relationship lacks direction.

But it's conjunct composite MC (1 deg) and composite NN (4 degs).

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When a planet conjuncts the North Node in the composite chart, there can be a real sense of purpose and direction in the relationship.

Ehh? Insights on this info alone? Please...

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Arnicka
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posted March 20, 2007 04:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh I wrote like such a robot back then!

Hmm, no personally I wouldnt consider it completely unaspected. conj MC I guess = high visibility, conj NN [unsure of proper orb in composites] there could be a feeling in the relationship that you two are striving toward something but its something that doesnt always feel natural/comfortable [opposing Sn, comfort/past point]

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izodesmozina
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posted March 20, 2007 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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teaologist
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posted March 21, 2007 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Arnicka, thanks for the interp. Interesting. It's playing out that way. I'm trying to remain detached, but yeah, the dreary interps for unaspected composite planets are no joke...

Hi Izo, I don't really have an interp, but I will say again that the influence of unaspected planets in the composite feel out prominently. The integration of Saturn into the rest of the chart is critical for a long-term relationship. Ummm, I honestly do believe in love conquering all... but I also think the individuals must have the stamina for it. For you, maybe you can handle it?

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wilsontc
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posted March 21, 2007 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
izodesmozina,

You said:

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I have an unaspected composite Saturn with someone...conjunct (1 minute away) the composite Ascendant...The relationship is hard to get off the ground

This isn't an UNaspected Saturn (duty, also structure)...but it is a LEAST aspected Saturn, which has a similar effect. Since you, as a couple, have trouble "connecting" to Saturn energies, there is a sense that things aren't structured enough in the relationship, somehow. The challenge is to trust that things ARE structured in the relationship (probably MUCH more than you realized), even though you, as a couple, will never "feel" that structured together.

Structured,

Tim

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izodesmozina
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posted March 21, 2007 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello and thank you very much for answering!
Tim, please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that a planet is considered unaspected if it doesn't make any major aspects with the other planets (not points).

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