posted February 04, 2006 01:48 PM              

Me & Best Friend Sister - Chiron Conjuncts Her Moon
Me & Dad -- Chiron Conjunct His Mercury
Me & Husband -- Chiron Conjunct Chiron
Me & First Love (8 years with the Aqua) -- My Chiron Conjuncts His Mercury/Chiron/Sun
Me & Doc -- My Chiron Conjunct His Chiron/Venus and Eros
Me & Mom -- My Chiron conjunct Her Saturn

Has anyone noticed anything similar. What's truly odd is that I am always the Chiron (Pisces). I note that with my two little ones there is a new twist, their chirons conjunct my planets (my daughter's Chiron Conjuncts my Neptune; my son's conjuncts my Uranus).

Woweeee

posted February 04, 2006 02:22 PM              

ME my mum chiron conjunct MC,chiron conjunct vertex, chiron trine chiron

My Mum and and her mother chiron conjunt MC, chiron conjunct vertex, chiron conjunct moon

Me and my grandmother chiron conjunct AC, Chiron conjunct venus

Mum and Aunt chiron conjunct AC

Me and half sister chiron conjunct venus, chiron conjunct lilith

Half sister and grandmother chiron conjunct chiron

Grandmother and father chiron conjunct sun, chiron conjunct mercury, chiron conjunct mars

I myself have noticed that relationships that don't have the conjunction between chiron and a personl planet have a lack of nurturing and caring in them. Have you you seen this as well?

posted February 04, 2006 03:16 PM              

Yea, I was noticing the samething too.

Hmm..waht degree is your chinron in pisces? I wonder is it's conjunct my sun sign...

I don't have info on many people in my life but I noticed that my chiron has been in the same moon sign as people i've dated.

posted February 04, 2006 04:29 PM              

Notice every single one is different:

Lily and best friend sis- Lily's Chiron Falls in Sis's 3rd House (hahha siblings how appropriate)

My Chiron Falls in Doc's 8th House (yeah no comments people...ask me if I feel it)

My Chiron falls in Dad's 9th house

My Chiron Falls in Husband's 2nd house

My Chiron falls in 1st Love's 10th house (that was all about resume writing, getting his crazy ass into grad school etc..)

My Chiron falls omto Mom's 1st house

All yeah and I forgot this one, my other sister --my chiron conjuncts her chiron/jupiter/moon and falls in her 12th house. We have a bizarre relationship. We get along decently but her personality is way too secretive intense for me...

posted February 05, 2006 03:52 AM              

My Chiron is in her 4th conjunct her moon too. We have conjunct moons.

We do have a lot of 9th and 4th house issues to heal and talk about!

Mom's chiron in my 2nd, mine in her 12th!
A lot of 12th house ISSUES! I have a whole stellium in her 12th house. My Sun in her first, Node conj. Asc.

Someone I am reeeeeeeeally interested in has their Chiron in my 8th, so come on Lilygirl, tell us about the 8th house Chiron? Come ooooooooooooooooooon....

posted February 05, 2006 10:30 AM              

That's a really good question. I am not certain if the healing is a mutual thing with the area of healing courtesy of that house. Or if the Chiron person facilitates the healing or the person whose house it is shepherds the healing.

With my sister and me, my native Chiron is in Pisces house three and my Chiron falls in her 3rd house. She has taught me to stand up for myself verbally which I had great pains with as a young child. Even today particularly in my business she is the one who says--speak up! Yet interestingly I have taught her to communicate with less "off the wall" unrestrained emotionalism (scorpio rising, pisces moon). To give people a fair chance and not react emotionally immediately to anything and everything, to think before speaking. It has really been a healing relationship around comunication, how tro speak, how to be heard.

The thing with Doc is a bit odd. As the entire relationship is fraught with longing but beautifully and sometimes painfully points up the need for me to make decisions about my sexuality in the context of marriage and love. He also seems to have awakened from the dead so to speak as the relationship sort of provides an unrequited tenderness and sexual tension that reminds him that he is indeed desirable. He has natal chiron/eros/venus trapped in his 8th house and I think there is a lot of self sacrifice, denied repressed sexual needs afoot there. The healing with us is evolving but much of it I think is the healing that comes from two people realizing hey wait a bloody second, maybe I am hot....LOL

posted February 06, 2006 01:14 PM              

I am just trying to relate my situation (similar to your Doc’s) with some other Pisceans who are under the influence of attractions to opposite sex. I found something similar to your situation where I got myself to believe that we both (Sagi married colleague) are having some kinda of liking. As you commented something similar situation might have taken place, where I realized ohh my god why I am turning on and probably her too (not exactly hot - I can’t ever be sure of her end).
So did you two had any issues relating with each other on that front? Or did your Doc behave oddly and tried avoiding you at times due to him having issues relating with you?
I got Chiron in VI Tauraus and Venus in IV Aries (unlike his Chiron/Venus in 8th) so not sure if self-sacrifice and repressed sexual needs are due to 8th house influence.

posted February 06, 2006 01:54 PM              

First did you know Chiron in Taurus has to do with wounding and healing around sexuality which is interesting as Venus in Aries is powerful sexually. Chiron in Taurus sometimes needs to just let go sexually.

My Doc has a tight 8th house conjunction of eros/venus and chiron which can indicate self sacrifice in sexuality and yet the uranus aspect wants, is desperate for creative, nonconventioal high erotic (mental connection too) sexuality.

The sexual tension between us is rather unwieldly and honestly for me a bit breathless. It's in constant need of reining which my Venus Trine Saturn handles as regulary duty. We are both faithfully married and we are both somewhat cerebral. On one hand, that seems to be helpful in preventing either of us from stepping over prescribed lines. The difficult part is that I find the whole thing to be one bloody messy mind blowing mind f-ck. He comes in over my transcom, and frankly I feel him telegraphing. He has a look in the back of his eyes that just seems wanting and it makes me want to consume him and to be consumed.Do you know what I mean by that?

The water in my chart is 11-12th house Neptune Scoprio, Cancer Vertex and my Pisces Chiron. That is it. But that is so overwhelming to me (I have a Taurus Venus and an Aries Mars/Moon and Gem Sun/Mercury and Sag Ascendant for God sakes) I can feel him transmitting to me, even now when I have gone through trying to tamp down my feelings.

Honestly, I am attracted to him for a variety of reasons. Despite his quiet passivity he has been incredibly protective of me. This is odd to describe. It's the kind of protection where someone will suddenly ask you a very personal question and actually expect and want an answer. He spends alot of time sort of playing this person who says, "Tell them to leave you alone..."

We see each other 90 days for appointments and we write each other little emails occasionally. Sometimes he will write something really cute, funny goofy with exuberance and then I can sense that he completely regrets. He will disappear or recede back or become professional again. There are just so many taboos here (starting with doc and patient.) This receding used to bother me but now it doesn't because,he always seems to make his way back. What is he to do, really? I do the same. And I am infintely worse as I am very verbal and sunny and sort of really firecrackerish. I thought I should just stop that but I can't--it is who I am. And I do it because he lets me do it. I say and write erudite and then sometimes blatantly funny outrageous things, and he simply stares ant me and smiles, and smiles.

posted February 06, 2006 05:52 PM            

So does almost everyone else's that I know.

Umm...My Chiron falls into her 8th House, and her Chiron falls into my 10th House.

posted February 06, 2006 06:35 PM              

In love relationships, what would happen if you took a gemini Chiron and matched it with a cancer Chiron?

posted February 07, 2006 10:51 AM              

I don't have a clue what it might mean for you two as buddies...healing or otherwise as that's a pretty major conjunction...But maybe she'll simply leave you in her will--could be ego transformative as opposed to pure blooded sexual. LOL

posted February 08, 2006 03:13 PM              

Very much true for my situation too, such a mess and still thinking whether it would turn messier or the reining will make sure that it will never get out of control.
Yepp, yepp I am very much understanding what you are saying – consume and being consumed. I also sometimes feel the same thing. And reading similar kind of the stuff is shaking my confidence, of me trying to make myself think, that she is not interested in me from that perspective.
Not sure if our common points of Sag Asc and Aries Moon has to do anything to do with our current thinking/situation.

talking protective … recently there was an incident where someone tried to get her directly involved into something without discussing the same with her. We had a discussion on the same. And next thing when she has left for the day is I walk over to the folks who were involved and ask them why are they not checking with people first before n all … I still try to shrug it of thinking that, “no I was not doing it for her, however for entire team”. Well it seems to look like a kind of reciprocity developed into each other of us. I guess our Piscean ability makes us understand others better, maybe making you feel protective.

Yesterday itself, I entered and not had even checked my mails (which had an meeting invite), she comes and queries whether I am coming for dinner with some business folks. And she says that she wants me to come as she would be alone out there at the level where we are (though 1 more person was also there). And as a Piscean can I be rude to say NO, even though I might have gone or not gone for the dinner if she had not even spoken regarding that. Still I try to wriggle and also get the motives of she asking me the same. And got some reasons here and there (wouldn’t be able to make out the genuine reason whether whatever she provided or just having a known fellow to accompany her).

Yep, disappearing back or backing of (acting professional) is common for me too. And the only reason was to break the relation (or probably breaking the thought process/idea that I got into my mind that there is some chemistry in between us, that she also has some feelings for me. Trying to break the uncontrolled attraction). And doing this, I feel so out of nature (though I am quiet guy and acting quiet should be normal) that I get my time wasted thinking over n over about the current situation, which causes my work to suffer. Thus I have to come back, can’t just run away from her in this ODD fashion. And she too does seem to act similarly (though to a lesser extent due to Sagi nature).
I can very much relate to your situation, writing erudite and outrageous stuff and he smiling. In my case it is face to face conversation (I always try to avoid as much as eye contact) and I just smile (I feel this might be probably due to us not judging either way or maybe I feeling that she is just kicking of the conversation for the sake of having an interaction with me and I knowing everything about that ). Sigh lets see where this takes, though I have decided of being in control at all costs.

posted February 08, 2006 06:40 PM              

Gosh I feel for you. It is nice to see how the other person manages such a quandry. I don't like to give advice on matters of the heart so I just speak of my own experience, You are most certainly younger than I am. So I will be quite honest here and confess that I have always been the good girl, the girl in control, the perfect wife, the perfect firend, the perfect mother. In control.

I want to say I think that has a way of killing your spirit. It does not mean that I wish anyone (you) to go against your ethics but I went into a marriage blind and practically virginal and now a decade later I am in desperate trouble. It was in essence as close to an arranged marriage as one can get in America (laugh).

Human beings must sometimes take chances, throw themselves almost hurl themselves into love, its joys, its angst, all of it.

This relationship with your colleague and friend may go no where but try not to so monitor your heart so deliberatedly with such protected calculation. It always seems so logical, so ethical so mature but sometimes it's just fear motivating you. And fear has a way of not allowing us the pain and ectasy of actually growing up and into love.

She wants to be in your company because you are kind to her, you listen to her. You act as though you don't wish others to take advantage of her or to discount her. Do you know how meaningful that is to a human being? This is particularly true if she seems to "have her act together". Every day persons lean upon me for everything and I make it my business to support them and be the role I have taken on. Yet, persons who have their acts together at work and at home are often in a lonely battle to keep it all together. She may wish simply to be vulnerable and she senses you accept that. She may wish to play in her head a different life, a different scenario where she is not satuck (which trust me she invariably feels).

Did you stick up for her for the team but more forcefully because it was she who was involved? Think about that hard.

Don't let her sunniness throw you off. I am sunny but partly because I feel completely protected when I am with Doc so I can be sunny, almost child like. I can melt into that light-- which I never really do anywhere else.

posted February 09, 2006 11:13 AM              

Hope both of you (you and Doc) including your families also have love and peace at heart.

posted February 09, 2006 06:20 PM              

chiron square chiron

sun trine chiron

sun opposition chiron

moon opposition chiron

mercury square chiron

mars opposition chiron

jupiter trine chiron

saturn trine chiron

uranus square chiron

north node square chiron

all with one person?

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra