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Node
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posted February 08, 2006 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other posts have covered this..I've read all of the available [or so I believe] material on line/in books. I would still like someone to define in their own words what they think this aspect truly means. T-squares and all that are easy to understand. The rectangle is..not. Help me to understand what it means if you please. TY in advance

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posted February 09, 2006 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most simply, it refers to "a grounded rise in consciousness."

This is from my book "Designs for a New Age" available from AFA or my website. The book describes the Grand Cross and several types of rectangles, including the Mystic and Magic rectangles.

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posted February 09, 2006 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node,

I think of the "Mystic Rectangle" as having all the benefits of the T-square (which is made up of challenging squares) with all the easiness of trines and sextiles. Mystic Rectangle! It's the fast, fun way to personal enlightenment! Try it today!

With the light on,

Tim

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posted February 09, 2006 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys,what does a fan stand for in a chart?TLove.Eliza

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proxieme
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posted February 09, 2006 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would its relevance be in my chart?


Selfishly (but with nods to wilsontc for the closing),
Corri

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Node
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posted February 09, 2006 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim: I love your posts bunches, have looked at your posts in other sites and hold you in high regard for your ability to communicate important learning in easy to understand [layman terms] and in an ironic/humerous tone. With all that- I've got to say, that your reply, and most other info I've read is confusing.. in that.. how can this rectangle aspect hold the 'good' of the T-square [difficult energy when focused properly leads to enlightenment] with 'easy' energy like a trine. What 'tone' is that? It reads like a contradiction. The aspect itself is contrary to me. Sorry to be dense, if you read this try again? Pretty please?

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wilsontc
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posted February 10, 2006 10:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node,

Thanks for your kind words. I will "give it another shot" and we will see if this helps any!

You asked:

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...this rectangle aspect hold the 'good' of the T-square [difficult energy when focused properly leads to enlightenment] with 'easy' energy like a trine. What 'tone' is that? It reads like a contradiction...

Exactly! It IS a contradiction! That's the amazing thing about the "Mystic Rectangle"...it has all these trines and sextiles (easy energy) but it also has 2 oppositions (challenging energy). So the easy and the challenging are thrown together...it's like the easy HELPS the challenging oppositions "get along" with each other. As a result, there are the benefits of working out the challenging oppositions by using EASY flow of energy made possible by the trines and sextiles.

Contrast that to the Grand Square. A Grand Square has NO easy flows of energy. The "outside" of the square is made up of squares (challenging energy) AND it also has two oppositions (challenging energy). So, with the Grand Square you are always "up against it" (as the Americans say! ) and facing the difficult issues in life.

The way I think of it is: Mystic Rectangles and Grand Squares give you challenges in life and help you grow and develop to a high level. The difference is the Mystic Rectangle can sometimes seem like a "magic carpet" which glides us above the challenges of life, while the Grand Square can sometimes seem like one of the inner circles of hell! Of course, we have to go through hell before we get to heaven...but that is a whole 'nother post ENTIRELY!

Taking it easy,

Tim

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posted February 10, 2006 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eliza,

There was a recent discussion on fans in a chart. Read all about it here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008199.html

Linking,

Tim

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posted February 10, 2006 11:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Corri,

Thanks for showing your chart...I need a chart to look at in order to do chart analysis. Your mystic rectangle connects your Ascendant (self) and Descendant (others). So there is a "flow" of energy between yourself and others. This "flow" is channeled through the 10th house (duty) and the 4th house (home, also emotions). The emphasis seems to be on understanding (with Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) and Mercury (thinking, also talking/daily work, also analysis) emphasized) and relationships (with Venus (relationships) conjunct (energy is combined with) Descendant (others).

Summing all this astro-gobbledygook up , you seem to have a need to connect yourself to others, mostly through trying to understand things and relating to what others are doing in their lives. This is a natural, easy thing for you, which causes you great personal development in your life.

Mystically,

Tim

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posted February 10, 2006 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK YOU! Tim: Fortunatly [or not] I have both a Grand square and mystic rectangle in my chart. Along with multiple T-Squares. Four if you go with the majors...and five if you get all Uranian...heee heee. I would love to post my chart. Don't know how [semi newbie] I feel that the dycotomy [sp] between the obvious-> struggle vs./attainment in my chart is interesting. My path, full of such struggle has been difficult to say the least. But without it....I would not be half the person I feel I am now! Thank you again Perhaps, if your interested, you can just do a in-fo-mertial.

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posted February 11, 2006 12:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node,

In my opinion the Grand Square is not quite complete between Saturn and Jupiter, so the strongest focus is your mystic rectangle which divides your chart into a left and right half, half focusing on self (left-side) and half focusing on others (right side). With Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) focused on the "self" side opposite Moon (home, also emotions) the challenge seems to be balancing out your emotions about others with your own self understanding. With North node (future goals) conjunct Nadir (inner world), the goal is to move into a greater understanding of your inner self.

Inwardly,

Tim

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posted February 11, 2006 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey tim i was wondering what this chart would show.Ive always wished I had more around my chart as its only through the 8th-11th houses.If i had some other aspects down below,i would make a prettier chart.Is there a name like maybe bundle or something for this chart?questioning...eliza http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_a71filexViyMT-u1110096451.64629.14056.gif&res=100&va=

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wilsontc
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posted February 11, 2006 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eliza,

The chart file has expired. Perhaps if you post the birth information I could take a look at the chart. In the meantime, here are some basic chart patterns (Part II, 10.0): http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm

Linking,

Tim

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posted February 11, 2006 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Encapsulated, in a nut-shell that has been my basic journey. To control emotions and outward inter-active energy in a synergystic way that does not alienate others. Some days it works, other days it is 'not so good' Releasing expectations is hard. Loving myself is hard. Loving others is easy. It is difficult not to give the power to the people that you love. To retain individuation. And yet 'give' as selflessly as possible. a life long process. TY Rev. Alice TY too, but unable to find link to your website that works....google, direct, or otherwise

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proxieme
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posted February 12, 2006 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Thanks for showing your chart...I need a chart to look at in order to do chart analysis.

N/p - I'm still just a beginner, really, but I have see the chart to feel it's flow, too, if that makes any sense.
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Your mystic rectangle connects your Ascendant (self) and Descendant (others). So there is a "flow" of energy between yourself and others. This "flow" is channeled through the 10th house (duty) and the 4th house (home, also emotions). The emphasis seems to be on understanding (with Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) and Mercury (thinking, also talking/daily work, also analysis) emphasized) and relationships (with Venus (relationships) conjunct (energy is combined with) Descendant (others).

That actually makes a lot of sense for the direction in which I feel I'm heading.
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Summing all this astro-gobbledygook up , you seem to have a need to connect yourself to others, mostly through trying to understand things and relating to what others are doing in their lives. This is a natural, easy thing for you, which causes you great personal development in your life.

Where would that really lead?
Councelling?
Written commentary on the "human condition" (for lack of a better phrase)?...though I think there's probably enough people out there contributing to that particular pool.

Thank you - I appreciate your help on this...especially since I figured out only relatively recently that I've got this configuration in my chart

As an aside (if you have time), in this chart what significance to the Star of David and Kite hold?
Are their respective powers diminished or changed at all because some of the planets involved are in out-of-sign aspects?

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proxieme
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posted February 12, 2006 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rev. Alice -

Does your book address the Star of David Configuration?

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wilsontc
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posted February 13, 2006 02:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
proxieme,

I think a Grand Sextile (Star of David) is a link to the ENTIRE chart which permits the person to access ALL their energies. As a result, there are MANY things the person could do, if they decide that they want to do them. The challenge, as with all easy, powerful aspect patterns is, if it is TOO easy, they may never bother to do anything with their energy...much easier to let everything "fall into their lap"! The Star of David, according to my way of interpreting things ENTIRELY dominates the chart, making the other aspect patterns MUCH less important.

Yes, I think your mystic rectangle makes you an EXCELLENT councillor, in whatever way you decide to apply this ability!

Sensibly feeling the flow,

Tim

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proxieme
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posted February 13, 2006 08:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tim
I'll do some digging to see just what his particular aspected points and planets in his pattern mean.
(For my own sanity - he's my husband )

Veering a little bit back to the Mystic Rectangle:

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Also called simply a 'rectangle', two opposition aspects are woven together with two trine and two sextile aspects. This can make for a time of enormous questions, yet it also brings potential solutions and openings which arise either by default or by apparent good luck. The flowing aspects take much of the tension out of the opposition aspects. There is much to work out, but it looks as if great things are possible. Abilities and assets search for a cause to be engaged in. Dilemmas can have difficulty being resolved in the usual ways, but they seem to work themselves out anyway in other ways. Letting go is the main way through: the state of mind is often the obstacle, when in fact there is an open road ahead. Here there can be exceptional skills which overcome immense obstacles, through synthesizing apparently different elements into an original and appropriate package. The rectangle brings marked results.

All true for me, especially the emboldened part. In fact, "solutions" seem only to come when I stop trying to "solve" the problem
I had attributed that soley to my Pisces Sun, but I guess I'll give this aspect pattern some of the credit now, too.

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