posted February 10, 2006 12:22 PM              

In one case, there is a 72 degree link, in another 48 degree link and TWS there is a 165 degree aspect. In the second daughter chart, no aspect between Moon and PAllas.
[BUt a 165 degree aspect between Neptune and PAllas!]

Also noted some amazing EXACT links of VAruna to PAllas and so on. 48, 72 and 165 are not well researched.

posted February 10, 2006 12:27 PM              

WE will crack this puzzle by the weekend.
I have Hexxie, NOreenz, PiscesGirl info and probably Devilfish will send hers. HAve to find Edgar Cayce's info as the acid test.

posted February 10, 2006 12:35 PM              

here is what I show for Edgar Cayce:
March 18, 1877//London, Eng//1:30 p.m.

posted February 10, 2006 01:11 PM              

IQ my chart is temp. posted on the chakra thread

posted February 10, 2006 01:32 PM              

My friends aren't too weird about my "special" talents, as they just seem to have gotten used to them. Most of my flashes come in waves of just knowing something is not right or in a dream. It's not really something that is wide scale, say that I can apply to strangers. I think it's more of a feeling of being connected to them. I always seem to forge these odd friendships and relationships with people where I just know what is going on with them, even if they don't tell me. This is especially useful with my children. I'd be intersted in their charts too. My daughter has an aqua stellium in her 8/9 houses with neptune also being in the eighth with the moon in 3rd house. My son has a grand air trine in his chart, though the trine to jupiter from venus in the 12th/neptune in the 8th seems to be quite wide; but it is still placed in water houses. He also has moon conj pluto in the 6th and I've read many places that that could possibly make for a healer, if channelede properly. This is an awesome thread by the way, although it's still a bit mistifying. So much to learn!

Spellbound

posted February 11, 2006 02:10 AM              

I was "smashinated" too because I am seeing the actual charts of an entire family with psychic gifts.
I think we should categorize the extent of psychic powers.

Most Water Heavy signs and those who have water sign rulers in Aquarius [Water Bearer] will have awesome precognition. You can sense the feelings of someone close, or someone you love from a distance.
You can complete sentences in a chat or during conversations of another person. You might meet a new person and you will know her name, and you just wont be able to know how. It will just happen.

But you will not be able to:
1)See Auras clearly, down to the last colour layer or see energy spirals/chi/prana clearly.
2)See full fledged incidents like video replays before they occur, on a regular basis.
3)Hear voices from another dimension warning of events to come.

The above three are typical post Pineal Gland activation psychic powers and this is what we are trying to pin down astrologically.

The above three are inner wisdoms, hence I chose Pallas asteroid as an added clue.

[We must also study later on what aspects would make a superb energy healer.
As Spellbound says, Pluto conjunct Moon could be a powerful necessary condition but not a sufficient one. We have to see the role of Chiron and other asteroids named after mythological healers. Myths were not told for fun.]

The Moon is important because it moves fast, otherwise, 10000s of people will develop psychic powers at the same time if a Neptune-Jupiter or Neptune-Venus aspect alone were to be the case. Those will bestow the simple psychic powers of water heavy folk ofcourse, but not the industrial strength powers.

Tim Wilson's elucidation in the previous page brings us to a third category of people, those who can easily allow psychic powers to flow in them through grand trines in water signs and so on.

Spellbound's link has the full info on all those who will have different kind of simple psychic powers. We have to spot that one major aspect or indicator of the industrial strength psychic power because if we do, then all water heavy folk can develop this talent when a TRANSIT is made that is similar to this magical natal aspect. Thats why I am so keyed up here.

Major Aspect Providers are Pluto, CHiron, Neptune, Sedna and Varuna. Without these aspects, it may be impossible to generate the power for psychic development.

Proverbial Suspects for power reception are the Moon and Venus.

Dark Horse is Pallas because Athena Pallas is the goddess of wisdom.

Outside favorites are Atlantis, Chaos, Pholus, Psyche, Ptah. [And some more which have named links to mythological rulers of Magic.]

The Clincher link should be akin to how Pineal Gland is linked to the emotional brain [intuive sense] and from the brain to the Soul/OverSoul.
This is why I picked Pallas-Moon connection aspected by a Big SHot PLanet.

posted February 11, 2006 03:18 AM              

Neptune conjuncts Moon [duh, it had to be that...] but the orb is 4 degrees.
True Node sextiles Moon by 2 degrees.
VARUNA conjuncts PALLAS/ATLANTIS combo by 3 degrees.
Pluto squares Uranus and Jupiter trines Neptune, both in 1 degree orb
[powerful generational aspects]

However, Moon and Pallas DO NOT aspect each other. They have a 107 degree separation.
Thus, Moon and Pallas aspecting each other need not be compulsory for development of industrial strength psychic powers.
[That is great news for Spellbound ]

What might be needed is just exact aspects to Pallas and powerful aspects to the Moon. And probably to one or two more asteroids which we will see as we get more charts.

One mathematical symmetry in the chart is the angle between Moon and Psyche is the same as between Moon and Varuna. 110 degrees. Though the angle value is insignificant (As of now!), could this symmetry have added to his powers ?

It is interesting to note that in Cayce's chart, CHIRON exactly trines PSYCHE. A clue for a healer's aspect?

NOREENZ:
If someone shows me your chart and asks about this person, I would say "She definitely has some Psychic powers".

I mean, Neptune perfectly squares Moon.
Moon is perfectly Quincuxed by Pluto.
Constant challenge to get more and more intuitive by transpformative adjustment to inner powers ????

Then Pallas is exactly quincuxed by the Sun and also perfectly quincuxed by Psyche and Squared exactly by Sedna. Triple Threat attack

Additionally, Moon is in Aquarius, 12th house!

But Saturn is choke slamming Pallas with a conjunction. Maybe thats why you may not have industrial strength psychic powers yet but I think you can develop them to a large extent.

PISCES-GIRL:
You my dear are not at all crazy.
It would be nice if you elaborate why you ever thought so. Did you get starnge dreams? Do you feel lots of Deja Vu? Do you have an affinity to archaelogical mysteries, Pyramids, Dolphins, Crystals ? To such kinds of movies?
Edgar Cayce initiated in our consciousness the seeds of the reality of Atlantis. [In this regard I must make mention of Paul Brunton too who proved the reality of the Great Pyramid vis a vis Atlantis when he spent a night there.]

If you note, Cayce has a direct link of the asteroid Atlantis with Uranus.

Look what you have.

Uranus Quincuxes Atlantis, like Cayce
Pluto opposes Atlantis
Neptune trines Atlantis.
All are near perfect orbs. You and those Pisceans born that week or so have some Atlantean destiny for sure.

Also, your Moon is 72 degrees aspect Uranus.
Venus conjuct Pallas is weakly trined by Pluto but sextiled exactly by Sedna and trined by Varuna.

Again, Saturn is conjuncting the Moon and may be restricting your psychic abilities a bit, obviously for your own good. Probably after you get comfortable with your abiltities and burn off karmas, or maybe after Saturn return, you will develop further.

SPELLBOUND:
How sweet! Pisces-Girl has found an Atlantean sister immediately.
The Trine of Neptune and Quincunx of Uranus is slightly weak, 3 degree orb but Pluto is making an exact opposition to Atlantis. True Node is exactly quincunx Atlantis.

Pallas quincuxes Moon, Moon is in Cancer
[Do you have lovely cheeks?], Uranus exactly trines Moon [Flashes of sudden insight, waves as you put it because of Moon in Cancer ] Pholus trines Moon and Varuna trines Pallas, Sedna sextiles Pallas.

The Psychic talent aspects are definitely there.
Note: Sun is directly opposed True Node in Virgo. Your past life was excessively Piscean!

DEVILFISH:

HEXXIE:

posted February 11, 2006 05:40 AM              

Uranus is hitting on Psyche and Pallas conjunction with a square while Sextiling with the Moon.
Mars and Neptune are in perfect opposition. Could that along with Saturn quincuxing Pallas/Psyche be inhibiting your psychic powers? Saturn also trines Mercury so that may allow you to express your abilities better.
Interestingly, the Pisces third house Jupiter, Sun and Pholus could be all about expanding while communicating spiritually. I am sure you get dreamy all the time with thess kind of aspects, along with Neptune sextile Venus and Moon sextile Jupiter.
(BTW, Venus in second house is great for cash flow )
You might be a very dreamy psychic than the Aura spotting and Healing kind.

Look at how Pholus is TSquaring with Mars/Varuna and Neptune!!
You need to learn about Pholus in Pisces a bit more because that is your core Energy point of the TSquare.

An interesting aspect is Pluto/Atlantis being trined by Varuna exactly.

Danger: Neptune in 12th House. It can make you extremely dreamy and in a fantasy or glamour world. It can also take you to heights of spiritual ecstacy. Keep off drugs and liquor please!

HEXXIE:
Hmmmm, Psyche conjuncts Atlantis.
Pallas is perfectly Squared by the True Node. Challenge from Destiny to master inner wisdom? You are doing a great job of doing that
True Node Scorpio is about fulfilling self transformation, knowledge of regeneration, purpose of sex and sensing the immensity of immortality.
[Zala has posted more pointers on this from Jan Spiller's book on Nodes]
Uranus sq Pallas = Challenge to develop sudden flashing insights of wisdom.
Sun conj Pluto in Libra = Passionate in Balancing Personality.
Varuna trines Sun/Pluto perfectly.
However, only Saturn opposes Moon and no Moon-Pallas aspect either.
This means you are not as much psychic as you are intellectual/inteligent/knowledgeable
and open to any new idea. But you definitely will have a well developed sixth sense or precognition because of Uranus in Scorpio. I am not sure about the Venus in Scorp in this regard. Pholus in Pisces also augurs well for developing Piscean gifts.
However, Chiron opposed True Node, Chiron sq Pallas, Chiron NOVILE Varuna and Chiron trine Psyche/Atlantis will reveal more about your para normal gifts. I am not too strong in that yet but since we have the aspects now, we can investigate further.

posted February 11, 2006 10:30 AM              

the reason why I said that I was crazy was because I've had alot of strange experiences that can only be catergorized, depending on who you see and their body of knowledge, as mental disorders, as a psychologist will just keep talking to you saying that it's a result of some kinda of sress and want to know if you want any meds so they can refer you to a psychiatrist. Or "unknown" as some doctors have never heard of the biological resposnses going on mentioned...so therefore you must be crazy. Or a religious person will say either it's the devil and you should stay away from those psychic undertakings or they will say it's a gift from God.

posted February 11, 2006 11:18 AM              

Another thing that happened was when the umm people that protect us made umm a big uhhh step-forward-to-peace- (there ya go) I saw it before they announced it. It was like there was a virtual movie screen right projected above and in front of me and I saw it. It wouldn't go away. I watched it, closed my eyes hoping that it would not be there but then when I opened them it was still happening. Even when I closed my eyes I could still see it through my eye lids actually. It felt like I was seeing it as it happened.

I can also see auras to a certain extent. I can defifntely feel them that's for sure. I'm not so concerned with that anymore because that's been scientifically proven now

WHen my ex had moved, I knew where he lived. I even knew how to get there-what streets to take and stuff. Had the street names correct and even the numbers.

posted February 11, 2006 11:22 AM              

I;ve also seen some kind of other owrld overlapping this one--weird--I know.

WHat else, aliens, strange entitites, out of body expereinces, wisdom, seeing into the past, present and future...and soooo much more.

It even got to the point where when I was I guess you could say, more involved, in doing those things (now whenever I feel it coming on I try to ignore it.. ) It moved from a point of just "seeing" and sometimes "hearing" but to where I can sorta manipulate things--like lights. Of course I don't know how I did it and I haven't been involved long enough to figure it out.

But I did notice a common denominator. When these things would happen my body would feel like it's vibrating super fast. And then when I'd get used to the "new stage" it would be incorporated in me to where it would feel almost "natural" to where I wasn't vibrating so fast. (I think what prolly happened was that I just stayed at that pace and it felt normal.)

ANd it would get stronger and stronger and I would just adapt. My ex felt some things too. But only because he was in my "bubble" of energy. I don't know if that makes sense. He was there with me on almost all occasions (because I was scared I dodn't want to know what was going on alone) When it would happen to him, we'd have similar expereinces, but for some reason he couldn't handle it..it was almost an overload from just being around me and he'd throw up or he won't be able to "hold" in that state for more than a few.

There were other things that were common denominators but embarrassing..

oh one funny thing though...drinking alcohol doesn't do anything to effect the process. In fact I drank alot and didn't even get buzzed--this was when I was in a restaurant and had ordered a drink. I thought that since alcohol was bad for you it would "lower" the vibes that I was begining to feel.

And as a side note--I've never experimented with drugs.

posted February 11, 2006 12:29 PM              

But GASP! Mine are too intense and emotionally disturbing. I am sooooo darned North Node Libra!

Background:
I come from a family where one chain practices a strange white magick of poison removal. My Grandfather and Grandmother could see Ghosts, astral beings and the sort. There are special rituals to be done during solar eclipses to attain those powers. I was the only male to be initiated but I messed up. It seems one is to stay a mental virgin also for the powers. So I gave up on that stuff. But things like spirits, ghosts, occult, exorcism, magic, for me these occurances were as normal as Water being wet, even if I did not expereince them myself.

After mom's death, I gave up organized faiths and turned gnostic. Some astrological happenings later, there was some Kundalini stirring and so on. And then I started working with my HIgher Self to release the unburnt karmas and so forth.

Thats when I used to get these dreams. Some were of my actual past lives. I was a warrior killing enemies like slicing cheese. UGH! Tearing apart giant serpents, enemies, being killed etc etc.

Its hard to relive those things. Especially when the swords move in the hands automatically like a maestro and you know you are NOT that barbarian anymore and yet.. to go ahead and do that all over again!

I figured out that this was a must. We have to cleanse our past lives to evolve. Time is multidimensional and by right actions and thoughts now, some of those crimes heal. And every few days, there would be a Lucid Dream. Testing time. Do I kill again?
With great effort, it is possible to avoid but some impulses are so strong. And when its done and we wake up with that pounding heart and sweat of "What sort of person was I???", I tell you, it can be really rattling.

Its better now, but I dont know what the next level of testing is. Did I wreck a planet like Darth Vader, in the name of conquest? Will I be made to relive that again, and will I be able to not hate myself?

I tell you, movies are nothing. Fact is far more emotionally scary and disturbing than fiction.

posted February 11, 2006 10:27 PM              

Also, if you would not mind, I have another child, a grandchild of mine that when she was born you would not believe the picture that I have of her birth. I have 6 grandchildren and I helped delivered all of them. But my first grandson and this grandaughter are very special to say the least. If you dont mind I would like to tell you about it.

Grandson: 2/16/1998, Texas, Weatherford, born 9:42 pm.

posted February 12, 2006 09:38 AM              

i will have to read about pholus.
im suprised you didnt mention my two kite formations,points being neptune & the moon.
i think restrictions i have are doubting myself, i am my own worst critic.

neptune in 12th i wonder how this fits with being a pisces sun, i do have to watch everything that goes into my body.i prefer natural remedies to man made medicines because im prone to adverse side effect.
liquor, well i drink lightly occassionally. i have had experiences with drinking to much, and people said you dont act like you ve drank alot!you hold it well, and THEN bam id be sick as a dog for days after.literally days!so my body doesnt like it.i can i have one /two and then i must call it quits.

i am an empath.i also have strong intutions.

those that know me say my gift is to teach people how to love themselves.i feel hesitant to type that but ive been told it repeatedly so.........?

posted February 12, 2006 02:46 PM              

Also, I can not post the picture. However, I will keep trying.

posted February 12, 2006 09:48 PM              

I hope yall can get to this. I really would like some input. This is the grandaughter that was born 6/20/2001 @ 1:11 pm, Weatherford Texas. Any feedback would be appreciated. She shows unusal insight.

Thanks