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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 10, 2006 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!-

I've met this guy a few days ago, and I'm very attracted to him- mostly by his appearance -yah, rather superficial-

The thing is, I made our synastry, and my Venus (leo) conjunct his ASC (Leo)- I wonder if that's why I like him so much (the Venus person finds the ASC's person "perfect"?)

But at the same time his Venus (taurus) squares my ASC (aquarius)- I wonder what this aspect mean- maybe I'm not his type !?

I know that I should take into account the rest of the aspects, but I would like to know about the importance and meaning of Venus and the ASC in synastry-

Any thoughts are very appreciated!

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wilsontc
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posted February 10, 2006 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red,

You said:

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...I've met this guy a few days ago, and I'm very attracted to him- mostly by his appearance...The thing is, I made our synastry, and my Venus (leo) conjunct his ASC (Leo)- I wonder if that's why I like him so much (the Venus person finds the ASC's person "perfect"?)
But at the same time his Venus (taurus) squares my ASC (aquarius)- I wonder what this aspect mean- maybe I'm not his type...

Venus is a good place to start in a relationship comparison, because Venus is the energy of relationships. Your idea of the two combinations seem fine to me, except you may have reversed who is attracted to whom! :
Your Venus (relationships) conjunct (energy is combined with) his Ascendant (self) indicates HE personally identifies with the way YOU relate to him

However, his Venus (relationships) square (energy needs to be combined with) your Ascendant (self), means that YOU need to work at understanding how HE relates to you. This will require you to "give up" some of your ideas of what a relationship "should" be...since his relationship energy doesn't work in a way that naturally goes with you.

Welcome to the wide world of relationships! Relationships are all about adjusting ourselves to the OTHER person, so if they are different from us in some way we adjust our expectations and work WITH them to overcome the issues caused by those differences. This could also be why you indicated you were not PERSONALLY attracted to him (i.e., "...attracted to him- mostly by his appearance...")...you liked his looks but he didn't "sit well" with you personally.

And, finally, let's take a look at this combination between you and him: Social Security (Aquarius) meets Material Security (Taurus). Although you BOTH like to be "secure", for you personally this is a social issue, who you know, your friends, etc. While for him in relationships it is a material issue, what values he has, perhaps money issues involved, maybe concerns about possessions, etc. These are two DIFFERENT ways to approach self and relationships...and so they have to be worked out BETWEEN you. The question is, are you ready to try experiencing relating in a different way from what you are personally comfortable with?

Relating,

Tim

P.S. for more about Material, Social, etc. see Step 4 of the link below.

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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Ingrid
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posted February 10, 2006 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tim!Hi Red!
I was reading your post very interested, actually I am a beginner, so sometimes I get lost...
I have posted a message asking about my venus and his venus (and Tim answered me!)
But I didn´t know about this conjunction between venus and asc, then I realised that my venus-taurus is in conjunction with his asc-taurus like you both, but I don´t understand very well the meaning of:
quote"his Venus (taurus) squares my ASC (aquarius)" why?
in my case, his venus is scorpio and my asc is leo, does it square it?Sorry for making very basic questions....


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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 10, 2006 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tim!!

Well thanxs a LOT for your explanation!!

I'm kinda new on doing synastry charts so yeah, I might read the interpretations up-side down,

All you wrote it's true!!, I don't know him very well but from what I've seen I'm not very attracted to his personality- Just his appearance...

You asked:

"The question is, are you ready to try experiencing relating in a different way from what you are personally comfortable with?"

And I answer: I don't know if I'm ready, but what I know is that I wouldn't "change" some aspects of me because of this person, he's just way too cute, but his values are very different from mine.

Besides I don't like changing (the majority of my planets are in fixed signs), so you can figured it out... lol

Thanks again

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Hello Ingrid!!

I'd really like to help you, (though I'm a beginner too!)

So if you want to know the exact aspects that both charts make, you should go to www.astro.com and select "Synastry" (in the type of chart)-
There you will see all the aspects and their orbs.

That's what I've done (hope it helps!!)-

Best wishes


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Happy Dragon
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posted February 11, 2006 01:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red .. hi .. (hola??)

***I've met this guy a few days ago, and I'm very attracted to him- mostly by his appearance***
you now get h.d.s' special 'lucky charm for romance' ..
* *

i've not actualy read the thread .. i just read the first line .. and smiled

re : 2 email queries ..
(1) astrology on computers ... this is the programme i use ( for apple mac .. 'freeware')
* http://kilian.stern.net/Kairon_e.htm *
shareware for PC windows .. can be found at TuCows.com ... ask kf 'beebudy' .. i think he knows about pc software .. look thru his 'links' thread .. and (2) re that Sat to Venus transit ... a good time to investigate pic editing software ( art type software) .. see what you can find at TuCows .. and when you have done so .. i shall pass on what info i can about pic editing on computers

hope things go well for you .. maybe you'll get some val.d roses from him .. (:-)
'later ..
h.d.

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Happy Dragon
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posted February 11, 2006 02:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red ..
***I don't know him very well but from what I've seen I'm not very attracted to his personality- Just his appearance..***
well .. go for the flowers anyway ..

i'd put forward that the Ven to Asc aspect (synastry) could be 'attraction' .. .. just thinking of a friend whose Venus be at close square aspect to mine .. .. we don't generaly like the same music .. but alternatively we often find a peice of music the other one has .. that turns out to be an 'education' and good listening for both of us .. ... we don't quite have the same taste in women .. but on the other hand our tastes sort of 'wake each other up' to something 'new' .. ( he's a cancerian .. long time partner of a delictable gemini lass ) ... ... so in a sense Ven square to Asc could be interesting to both parties ..

'later
h.d.

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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 11, 2006 10:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola HappyDragon!!

¿cómo estás?

Hehe...you made me laugh with your special lucky charm for romance!!

Thanks for the info about about the programmes!!; I'll try to download them and see what I can do.

Haha, yeah I'm expecting some flowers- lol, but he sure will win me if he gave me something different, original, (not expensive)- something made by him, maybe?-
nah... he's not that type

That square could be interesting between friends, but in a couple... I don't know. It just doesn't work with me, I like sharing and enjoying the same stuff!! so we can "connect" our minds and talk and talk (mercury 7th) LOL

By the way, I got your mail, I'll replay it later



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alma-noble
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posted February 11, 2006 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my case, I am very attracted to somebody who's Venus is conjunct my ascendent and I thought I find this person " so damned perfect" because Venus person fits my ASC "taste" I don't know his ASC to see how my Venus interact with him. I know also that his Venus is trine mine ... Just to add I know this person for YEARS and ALWAYS I felt SO much attracted to him!!!!


Anyway I am glad to know your point of view (from Venus person toward ASC person)

Here is some notes about Venus conjunct ASC saved from internet:

Venus conjunct Ascendant
You tend to reinforce each other's self-esteem and self-expression. Although this position can produce a sense of competition, it is more apt to denote a very significant spiritual link between two people. This is an extremely strong indicator of compatibility in a relation.

Venus in 1st house
Venus in partner's first house shows identification with each other emotionally. There is generally a sharing of social, artistic, and musical interests. This placement usually denotes a harmonious relationship and often results in a strong romantic attraction that can lead to marriage.If the aspects to this Venus are difficult one, over-possessiveness, or the stimulation of jealousy or envy may be present. This does not deny the strong romantic link, though they may be punctuated from time to time by quarrels and emotional upsets.

The Ascendant in Synastry
The Ascendant expresses our "body ego"—how we express ourselves through our body language and personal mannerisms. It also shows how we cope with the daily demands of life, our first reactions, and how we initiate projects. Naturally, when the Ascendant of one person's chart contacts the planets (or Ascendant) of another, the reaction is immediate and, often, apparent. While it is common enough that there can be an attraction to the physical body, it is more than likely a reaction to the Ascendant person's whole body ego--the manner in which he/she comes across, or the "packaging".

Aspects in Synastry
In Synastry, conjunctions between partners' planets and points represent a point of powerful interaction. Depending on the planets involved, there can be a strong feeling of similarity and recognition. The opposition represents polarity and the power of attraction. This can result in a feeling of complementing each other, but it can also bring out feelings of competition and insecurity. Sextiles and trines (generally considered "flowing" aspects) often suggest an ease at blending the two planets' or points' energies. There is often a warm and pleasant understanding and flow. Squares often point to energies that need work in order to integrate them easily into the interaction. While lack of understanding and frustration can be the result, they can also create just the right amount of tension to produce excitement in a relationship. Growth-oriented individuals will find that these "discordant" energies can spur them to new heights of understanding.

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dagnveg
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posted February 11, 2006 12:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Redbubble, you said, "That square could be interesting between friends, but in a couple... I don't know. It just doesn't work with me, I like sharing and enjoying the same stuff!! "

You'd be hard-pressed to find someone whose synastry with you is all conjuncts, trines and sextiles.

Think of it this way ... if everything was in "favorable" (or less challenging) aspects, you might as well be dating yourself. As well, if it were all pretty trines and conjuncts, there may not be enough "va-va-voom" for a couple to remain interested in each other!

We need opps and squares in our charts with others. Those are our opportunties to learn another's point of view, to expand our ways of relating. We can grow and learn from others with these aspects.

My Venus/Asc synastry with my BF is the same scenario that you described in your original post.

My Venus in Aqua conjuncts his Aqua Asc; his Venus is Aries squares my Cap Asc.

I'd agree absolutely with Tim's assessment in the second post. I was the one who had to adapt to his way of relating more so than his to mine.

If you like this guy, of course it's too early to know what you're dynamics together would be like, just go with the flow on it and try not to force it into a "box" of how you think things should be. Adapting isn't a bad thing. As it is possible that we can learn something from another's relationship style, right?!

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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 11, 2006 07:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alma-Noble

Thanks a lot for that notes about Venus and the ASC !!

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Dagnveg,

Well, I never said I wanted a relationship that's all about trines, sextiles and conjunctions!!

It's just that at this point of my life,(after some turbulent relationships with guys kinda different from me) I felt I needed a calm relationship with someone who was similar to me.

But like you said, it's too early to know what this guy is all about.

So, I'll just go with the flow- and then, I'll let you know.

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skystar
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posted February 15, 2006 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About venus square ascendant, I have read it means attraction between two people. Also that it is a good synastry aspect for a couple (marriage). In fact, my husban venus is opposite my ascendant.
However I think it is important to see the whole picture. Sometimes one bad aspect is balanced by two or more other good aspects.

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Happy Dragon
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posted February 15, 2006 06:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
redbubbles .. re:
**... ; I got the flowers you predicted!**

( predictions ?? .. .. you must have dreamt that one .. or maybe it's just the time of year )

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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 15, 2006 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
skystar,

You said: "I think it is important to see the whole picture. Sometimes one bad aspect is balanced by two or more other good aspects."

I totally agree with you!!

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HappyDragon!,

You said: "hope things go well for you .. maybe you'll get some val.d roses from him .."

Yup, I got "flowers"- you predicted it



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