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mars446
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posted February 17, 2006 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me: 9/12/85 8:08 pm

Sun in virgo 6 house
asc in aries
Moon in leo 5 house
mercury in virgo 6 house
venus in leo 5 house
mars in virgo 6 house
jupiter in aquarius 11 house
saturn in scorpio 7 house
uranus in saggitarius 8 house
neptune in capricorn 9 house
pluto in scorpio 7 house


Him: 10/13/83 1:01 pm

sun in libra 9 house
asc in capricorn
moon in capricorn 1 house
mercury in libra 9 house
venus in virgo 8 house
mars in virgo 8 house
jupiter in sagittarius 11 house
saturn in scorpio 10 house
uranus in sagittarius 11 house
neptune in sagittarius 12 house
pluto in libra 10 house

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astro junkie
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posted February 17, 2006 07:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes! I've gone crosseyed!

I'm not sure if I'm seeing things ...

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mars446
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posted February 17, 2006 09:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about that, I didn't know how to put it up.....so i'll keep this simple, and if u need the angles.....I'll just put it up

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mars446
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posted February 17, 2006 10:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only reason why I'm doing this is because we've been good friends for a while, but I didn't like the fact that I developed feelings for him, b/c I felt that my personality was changing, though it doesn't show on the surface. So when I felt that my emotions were getting out of control....and yet it didn't seem that he cared for me as more than friends, I stopped talking to him without warning. I have the tendency to stop talking or distancing myself when I feel that I'm going to get hurt, and its pretty obvious when I do it. Ever since I stopped talking to him, I feel so much more sane. But, from time to time, I miss him...overwhelmingly, which bothers me to no end.

I have tried to talk to him again, to reconcil, but certain annoyances came up from him, and from me as well.

I've emailed him recently to not completely explain why I stopped talking to him, b/c it's many reasons that lead to this one action. I also told him of my grievances towards him. But I also asked him to forgive me for something I did that I shouldn't have done....but I couldn't look at his reply (because I get that nervous...is that a virgo thing?)

So please, I need help as to overcoming my nervousness, but also if it is worth it, if I should try to regain the friendship.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted February 17, 2006 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you guys look like very different people.

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mars446
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posted February 17, 2006 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we're different, but we have a lot in common. sometimes when we had conversations, i'd find myself in him. we had this thing that if something happens to me, it will happen to him and vice versa. I can't really describe it.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=&adl=19&ast=433%2C+16&gm=a1&btyp=2&sday=18&syr=2006&asp=1&zod=&lang=e&orbp=&mth=gw&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&hsy=&smon=2&nhor=2&go.x=]

That's my chart


and this is his: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&asp=1&sday=18&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C+1]

This is the composite: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=2&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&asp=1&sday=18&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C]

I don't know.......this link thing is a lil iffy......so just click on it, i made sure it came out.

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wilsontc
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posted February 18, 2006 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

The Composite is the chart of the relationship itself - the result that happens when you two come together as a couple. Although all the energy of the relationship is at the top of the chart (outer world), your North node (future goals of the relationship) is conjunct Nadir (inner world). This indicates that you two tend to become VERY inwardly intimate as you work closer together as a couple. This level of "inward" contact requires each person in the relationship trust the other with their "inner secrets".

Inwardly,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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mars446
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posted February 18, 2006 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's so true........

But what i'd like to know more.......is that when there r those times that we r acting differently, or at least when I can't understand him, can u tell me where that stems from? Like is he too different to complement me, or do i have such myopic vision that i can't see what he's trying to say to me?

and when are acting differently......like absolutely no sync between us........is there a way for me to bridge over that? b/c we have a lot in common.......but sometimes....we r just too different, and sometimes i wonder how we became friends (i initiated the friendship, btw)

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wilsontc
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posted February 18, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

In my opinion, the energy of the Composite chart ONLY comes into action when BOTH people in the relationship are working to resolve their "couple issues". Then, at this time, they are thinking like a couple and so come closer to "being one". The rest of the time, when they are trying to be individuals in the relationship, their Relationship (synastry) charts are more active, and their differences of energy become the focus of the relationship. This is why I usually ONLY look at Composite charts for long-term relationships.

Relating,

Tim

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mars446
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posted February 18, 2006 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the synastry chart:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=2&nho2=4&btyp=61&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&asp=1&sday=18&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C+16

B/c as much as I'd like to understand astrology, as much I get so confused and lost. (sigh)

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Lauren
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posted February 18, 2006 10:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mars, my bf is also Libra with a Cap moon and Cap asc.. He has a Virgo Mars as well. And my Sun, in Aries, conjuncts your Ascendant. Though I have a lot less fire than you in my chart, and a Capricorn moon.. but your guy also has more fire than my bf. My bf has a sigleton Uranus in Sag, his only fire.

I think you *are* pretty compatible. Your Sun is trine his Moon. His Sun is sextile your Moon. Your Mars is conjunct his Venus and your Pluto is sextile that conjunction. Your Neptune trines it also. Overall this seems nice, attractive, lovey dovey kinda feeling.. You could have communication problems because there isn't much of a Mercury connection.. no Mercury/Sun..no Mercury/Mercury *but* your Mercury trines his Moon which is a plus.. you might make it easier for him to express his feelings.. which his own Libra Mercury does not understand.

Everything happens slowly with capricorn. i should know, we both have Cap moons and it all happened very slowly..not that either of us had a problem with that.. but for someone with a leo moon and aries asc.. you'd want excitement sooner rather than later.. I think the caution and indecision he feels, would come accross to you as detachment or "dislike" of you.. when really that's most probably not what he intends.

The fact that you stoped talking to him.. I'd be willing to bet he completely took that the wrong way. My advice is, whatever you choose to do.. try to be consistent with it.. either be his friend or not, either tell him you like him and make it clear you want a relationship or not.. Don't go down a lane where you want him one day and don't ever wanna speak to him again the next. Capricorn Moon needs a lot of consitency to feel safe and cared for, otherwise they retreat and get very cold.. purely out of caution, not to be mean towards you.. and not because they've lost their feelings.. but because they feel you are not good for them emotionally so they shut down.. and retreat. There's nothing that would make him fall in love faster than knowing someone is trustworthy and won't abandon ship every time there's a problem.

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wilsontc
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posted February 19, 2006 01:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

I want to follow up on a point Lauren made about Mercury (thinking, also talking/daily work). YOUR Mercury connects with some of his personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), but HIS Mercury does NOT connect with any of your personal planets. This means that YOU connect personally to him through your communication, but HE does not connect personally to YOU with his communication.

This can be frustrating for you because you are making all this effort to communicate, and think he should make a similar effort. In fact, he could be making this effort to communicate, except you simply are not personally aware of it. His words seem "impersonal" somehow to you. His Mercury does trine your Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom), so perhaps his words seem more general wisdom than personal communication.

As Lauren indicates, the rest of the chart indicates very strong, easy connections between you. The challenge for you is to trust that he IS making the effort to communicate...even if you can't personally be aware of it. This is part of the "faith" that loving as a couple is all about: trusting that each person is doing their best to develop the relationship...even if you can't always see their effort!

Relating,

Tim

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astro junkie
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posted February 19, 2006 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Mercury is in her 6th House
His Mercury is in her 6th House, but also Conjunct her Vertex. Maybe there IS a theme having to do with communication, and she's learning new ways to.

As for that feeling when you are glad to rest from communicating with someone, and then missing them until it hurts - I think of the sexiest Bodies - (no pun intended) - like Eros, Psyche, Pluto and the 8th House.

Her Moon & Venus are positioned very close together in LEO in THE 5TH HOUSE. His Eros lands Midpoint to them.

Six of her Bodies land in his 8th House, including her Eros.

Her Natal Psyche & Chiron Conjunction is Conjunct his North Node. There could be a desire for her to exert a healing influence on him. Their communication challenges really bother her because it feels as if he is rejecting her healing energies. She complies when his space is needed, but she still feels like he needs her.

I still see a big communication theme, as he may be able to SHOW HER HOW to communicate in a way which is most supportive, and which she will be able to implement in her future relationships with friends, family, future dates, etc.

His Pluto is in her 7th House. So it's ON... big potential for her to learn a lot.

Her Eros is Conjunct his Venus.

His Psyche is in her 8th House.

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mars446
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posted February 19, 2006 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot, it helped a lot. As for the inconsistency....let's say I waited around 2 yrs for him to say something, and he didn't.......I mean, I thought that was pretty long enough.....unless u guys see it a different way (talking to lauren).

I have reconciled w/ him recently....but I'm just going to keep low-keyed so none of this chaos would happen again.

The thing is that I don't want to be hanging there until he says something. Hence, my "inconsistency". On top of that I made it so obvious that I liked him through plenty of compliments (mind u, that's all b4 I abruptly stopped talking to him w/o telling him anything)...I also told him that I liked him twice. The first time he didn't respond. The second time he said something like I won't commit to that. I thought to myself, that's fine. A lil later I told him I didn't like him.......but I still couldn't stop myself from "showing" that I liked him. Until I felt that emotionally I was going to burst, b/c the feeling of being so dependent and attached suffocated me....I stopped talking to him.

Anyways....thanks a lot, it really really made sense. I wanted to know though, since I can't relate to him through his communication ways, can u clue me in as to how to understand his way of communicating? B/c sometimes, especially when we're arguing, I absolutely have no idea what he's talking about.

Astro junkie....as for the things u mentioned about our charts.....I don't understand a thing u said unless u explained it. So....would it be ok that u explain it? I'm such a beginner in astrology, it's not even funny

I really appreciate guys...it makes so much better sense now.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=2&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22&add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&add=23&asp=1&sday=19&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&ci d=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C+16

The synastry chart w/ all the greek mythological dudes that I can ever find.

and here's the composite w/ all the guys:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=2&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22&add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&add=23&asp=1&sday=19&smon=2&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&ci d=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=433%2C+16

maybe looking at these charts w/ more of the greek characters would help?

B/c I use astro.com...one of my fav. I'd like to ask if there is a south node choice, so it would be easier to know if there r aspects that "hold back" a person? Maybe that is what's hindering me from understanding him?

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wilsontc
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posted February 20, 2006 02:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

You said:

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can u clue me in as to how to understand his way of communicating? B/c sometimes, especially when we're arguing, I absolutely have no idea what he's talking about.

This is what I was trying to talk about. He talks but it does not "connect" with you at all. As a result, while YOU can talk to him and affect him personally with what you say, expecting to have a similar level of communication and personal verbal connection from HIM probably won't happen. Look, instead for the "non-verbal" ways of communication. Does he do thoughtful, loving things? Does he remember "special days" such as birthdays and anniversaries? Does he show concern for your well-being? These sorts of "non-verbal" things will come through "loud and clear" to you!

If you are interested in learning astrology, see the link below.

Communicating,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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astro junkie
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posted February 20, 2006 04:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars446 -

I was pointing out those placements which may account for that feeling of being drawn back to that person in an intense, almost illogical way.

In order to understand more about what I said, try to learn some of the basics, or start new threads with simple and specific questions in order to learn more.

There's lots of good sites. Here's another link which is simple to follow, and remember that in asking for astrological advice, there is truly nothing definite. If you want to understand more, learning about astrology will help you develop your mode of observation. It's always best to trust you OWN intuition in the end. :::


www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm

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mars446
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posted February 21, 2006 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank u guys.....yes, I've checked both websites (bobastro and Tim's website).....but I guess I have to sorta memorize the stuff.

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