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mars446
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posted April 05, 2006 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to know, and i'm sure others would want to know, all the information you astrology experts know.

I just read the post about Alisa and her love for her bisexual guy, and I was impressed by Iqhunk's knowledge and how he used all the information he knew to analyze her situation. Tim does a great job as well. Forgive me if I don't put all names of the experts, but I'm relatively new, and don't really have all the time in the world to read all the posts.

So I'm suggesting that this topic is solely for just dropping coins of knowledge, so that for future reference, we can refer to this topic.

Personally, I don't know all the meanings of numbers, so can someone be generous enough to do that. For example, 1 means this and that, 2 means this and that, etc...

Then this whole karma past life stuff...I'm intrigued by it, but how can someone tell from astrology and numbers? All i know is that saturn is somehow connected, but further elaboration is appreciated.

And then if others have more questions about other information...just drop it here. I wish I can ask more questions, but I have an exam coming up, and I gotta study.

Thanks a lot!

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Iqhunk
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posted April 05, 2006 06:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mars,
Tim is my guru, his site is the best starting point. CafeAstrology and astrology-numerology.com, they are very good too. 99% of what I write is a collection of knowledge from other sites, so googling will be very useful too.

Karmic bonds are more complex. It is not just Saturn but Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, True Node and Asteroid Karma.

You have to be emotionally prepared to learn about karma. Chakra balancing, Kundalinic currents and Karmic cleansing all go together. It can cause emotional volcanoes.


Best to master astrology first and then delve into karmic studies.

Almost all links are on these forums!


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wilsontc
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posted April 05, 2006 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk,

Thanks for the compliment! I also have enjoyed all your very informative, spiritual posts about relationships and individual charts. I think taking a holistic ("big picture") approach to astrology can get a person "up and running" very quickly in astrology. After that, what you do with it, is up to you!

Treasuring in a box,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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mars446
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posted April 07, 2006 02:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.....but why is learning about karma emotionally draining?

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Iqhunk
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posted April 07, 2006 03:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mars,
What if you find out that someone you have been very mean to in this life was your favorite child who died young, in a past life? How will your present life be once you get awareness of this fact ?

Alternately, what if someone you love in this life was an abusive lover in the past, someone whom you hated and would enjoy destroying? How will you cope in the present once you get awareness of such a fact?

Learning basics of karma is very useful but once you get to the point where you learn how to cleanse it, after a critical amount of cleansing, the past life awareness will commence. If you can handle the emotional stress, then by all means, nothing to worry and you can learn as much as you wish.

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sweetlibra
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posted April 07, 2006 03:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk, will you have a look at my past life? I have a feeling that I was a whale or something!!

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Planet_Soul
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posted April 07, 2006 05:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,


Do you have any good links or startign points as to the Karma cleansing/balancing? I have the feeling I have brought heavy karma into this lifetime, and I am willing to work on it no matter how draining. I want to reclaim my soul and release myself...

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Iqhunk
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posted April 07, 2006 05:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL SweetLibra, I think u were a dolphin rather than a whale...

Planet_Soul, I can only tell what I am absolutely certain worked for me.

Can I send the complete details of whatever I did by email?
My id is tsaied@rediffmail.com

One thing, karma being past life actions only leads to present life impusles and thought patterns. These thought patterns attract the neagtivity in the present life. So the best plan is to work on the thought patterns.

You must devote atleast 30 minutes a day to meditative practices and affirmations to maximize the results. It takes 3 - 6 months.

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Planet_Soul
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posted April 07, 2006 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, you have mail.

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mars446
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posted April 07, 2006 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested to know what i was like in my past life. All i got from astrology.com was that I was some revolutionary person, gone through a violent times in my past life. My north node is in taurus. But I'd like to know more about that. Just let me know what other information you need.

M
9/12/85
ny ny
7:08 pm

Btw, can u tell me why websites give different asc? It just really bothers me.

Also, if someone has moon trining another person's north node (in synastry), does it mean that the moon was the north node's wife?

Thanx a lot

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Iqhunk
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posted April 07, 2006 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mars,
I will study your chart next week in depth.
Are you a guy or gal?
Past life from chart is speculative, I am a novice in that. WHat I meant is your own past lives can be shown to you once you improve your nature, master your chart and meditate deeply.

Planet_Soul, you have mail

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mars446
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posted April 07, 2006 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH....ha ha, I'm a girl, and yes, I wanted to know my karma to get to know how I was and how I can improve myself. Take ur time and thanx a lot

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wilsontc
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posted April 07, 2006 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

You asked:

quote:
...why websites give different asc...

The most common reason for differing Ascendants between websites is in not correctly converting to Daylight Savings Time (DST). To eliminate this problem, use www.astro.com (which converts to DST automatically, as needed), create a chart, and then get the chart on the other website to look like the astro.com chart, either by adding in or taking away DST.

In another time,

Tim

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mars446
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posted April 07, 2006 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhhhh, makes sense...so u go w/ standard time for making charts....thanx

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wilsontc
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posted April 08, 2006 12:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

Second attempt! I have corrected my original post. I MEANT to say that you DO need to correct for DST in charts. So, if you were born when DST was in effect, you need to adjust for that. Some charting sites force YOU to enter DST and, if you are wrong, the chart is wrong! Astro.com is much simpler: IT corrects for DST as necessary. You can't calculate all your charts in standard time (i.e., non-DST), but you CAN eliminate the hassles of converting to DST by using astro.com.

There! I hope I made sense this time!

Posting and reposting,

Tim

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mars446
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posted April 09, 2006 01:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok......that makes sense....thanx a lot!

Just as a side note...can u tell me if its normal for a virgo sun, pisces asc to always feel so confused and torn b/w 2 extremes? On top of that......they are opposites of each other on my chart...along w/ virgo merc... I always feel torn b/w what I should be doing (following tradition, what my parents say etc.. and what my heart feels like doing..) or is it something else?

Thank u!!

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wilsontc
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posted April 09, 2006 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

You asked:

quote:
...can u tell me if its normal for a virgo sun, pisces asc to always feel so confused and torn b/w 2 extremes? On top of that......they are opposites of each other on my chart...along w/ virgo merc... I always feel torn b/w what I should be doing (following tradition, what my parents say etc.. and what my heart feels like doing..)

While I don't know if it is "normal" for EVERYBODY, it certainly seems it is normal for you! It seems to me you ALMOST answered your own question, especially when you said "they are opposites of each other on my chart". Oppositions always indicate two sides to things. So, if we add in the information that the Ascendant is about yourself, while the Descendant is about others, the nature of the opposition between your Ascendant (self) and your Descendant (others) is apparent: you have to always "balance things out" between what YOU want (Ascendant) and what OTHERS want (descendant). Add to this that Pisces is a sign all ABOUT confusion and the the situation seems clear astrologically.

However, the solution to this situation is challenging, particularly if there is no planet or point square, sextile or trine this opposition. If ther IS a planet or point square, sextile or trine then this planet can be a focus of your "balancing act" and you can USE this "confused" energy. If there is not, then the challenge is to try to find a solution which satisfies BOTH sides (self and others).

Giving the astrological basics,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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pixelpixie
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posted April 09, 2006 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, depending on where you are in your own karmic evolution, in this lifetime ( and yes, I know , the bigger picture accounts for everything) You can be assuredly positive that synastry indicates past life connections/karmic/soulmate type connections, and you can also know it in your heart.. but it is painful if you discover that though you know this, it is not the correct time to pursue it.... if ever....
So delving into discovery through Astrology can sometimes verify that you've got some more evolving to do, and you question why you were awakened if only to go back to sleep.

But then the bigger picture fits in, and it makes more sense, in retrospect.. BUt it is painful, painful, painful.

Like lessons are supposed to be so you remember.

That being said, I truly don't believe that you are lead prematurely to anything. if it matters, it matters, if it touches you, there is a reason.
So search. Find, Love, Be.

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mars446
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posted April 10, 2006 02:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok...and I just realized that I have 2 grand crosses........one involves oppositions b/w uranus (sagittarius) and chiron (gemini), asc (pisces) and sun (virgo)......then i have another grand cross, w/ everything above, except that instead of the sun, i have merc opposite asc. No wonder y i've been acting weird all this time.

And here's the link to my chart:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&asp=1&sday=10&smon=4&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=22mfileR86ycy-u1119432459&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=

However, do u think that the 2 oppositions that i have can be used to direct my energy to the asc, just as a t-square, by using the planet that's at 90 degrees to the other 2 planets, to focus "turbulent" energy, or like a very very tiny version of a yod (at least picturewise, not degree wise) or it can't work in this case? If it does work...can u tell me how i can use the asc to focus my energy? If it doesn't, can u tell me how u can overcome a grand cross, or is there no way of doing it?

Thanx a lot!

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mars446
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posted April 10, 2006 09:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk....just curious...how old are you? (I hope I'm not offending you or being too nosy by asking the question)

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Iqhunk
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posted April 10, 2006 10:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont get offended too easily [unless someone belittles the movie "Matrix 1"]

My chronological age is 29. I am in my peak Saturn return right now.

My immortality reverse spiral age is 17-19
[Star Signs Chrapter 9]

My target lifespan is 52000 because I want to go through two precessionary cycles to validate reality like a true scientist.

Maturity? 2-4 years. Gimme my toys, candy and blonde bombshell babe right now. WAAAAAAAA!

May I ask why you asked??????? I have the curiosity of a child as well

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wilsontc
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posted April 10, 2006 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

Thanks for posting your chart! This makes it MUCH easier for me to give you feedback! I do not use Chiron in aspect patterns, but only the planets. So, if we take out Chiron and some of the aspects which Astrodienst puts in which I personally don't think should be there...you don't have a Grand Square. Instead, you have two T-squares that indicate similar things.

You have a T-square between the nodes focused on Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) focused in the 11th house (friends). And a T-square between Ascendant (self) and Descendant (others) focused on Uranus (friends) focused in the 9th house (expansion, also wisdom). The T-square between the nodes indicates you gain wisdom from those around you as a way to develop your North node (future goals) focused in the 2nd house (physical, also values). The T-square between Ascendant and Descendant indicates part of this "balancing act" is a way to gain knowledge, both from your own point of view and from others, about what to do.

So, the GOAL is to develop your own values and the way to do it is by learning as much as you can from your social environment...including the Internet (Uranus rules the Internet, by the way). Yes, it takes awhile and is a challenging process. Just "keep your eye on the prize"...developing your OWN values based on all you learn in life.

Valuing others,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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mars446
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posted April 10, 2006 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx a lot Tim...that makes sense...so now I have to be more social (ugh...lol) But I wanted to know......why not involve chiron? Before i ask that...what is chiron, as in, is it an asteroid, a fake point like the true node (i only call it that b/c it's just calculations, not an actual entity), or what? But what, if true node is not a planet, y do u put preference for it over chiron in interpretting charts? And do u believe in magiastrology, i briefly read through it, and just wanted to know. What's the shape of my chart? Would u consider it a funnel? If you do, do u still go on the basis of the true node or chiron? Or if it isn't a funnel, what shape is it? How old r u btw, and where ur planets at, natally?

As for Iq.....well, u know a lot about astrology, and very technical yet wholistic about it....but when it comes to some posts, like this last one...u can be pretty amusing. Or ur planning to write a book, yet pid and someone else, I don't remember, are fighting each other (or at least it seems that way, and somehow ur supposed to ravish one of them?........and i've just hopped on in december, and only recently have i been reading more posts) Maybe i'm taking this too literally, b/c i'm gullible like that...lol

And for u to know so much about astrology, i'm sure u've devoted a lot of time to it, and ur pretty young, so i also wanted to know, what do u do for a living? r u an astrologer as well.....or do u do something else? And I want to know too, where ur planets at, natally?

Thanx a lot, though i'm so far away, but i'm getting there w/ my baby steps

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Azalaksh
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posted April 10, 2006 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Og ~

Would you please come visit?? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008745.html

Thx,
'Z

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wilsontc
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posted April 10, 2006 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars,

You asked:

quote:
...why not involve chiron? Before i ask that...what is chiron...an asteroid?...true node is not a planet...preference for it over chiron in interpretting charts? And do u believe in magiastrology...What's the shape of my chart? Would u consider it a funnel? If you do, do u still go on the basis of the true node or chiron?...How old r u btw, and where ur planets at, natally?...

I have nothing against Chiron, which is a planetoid orbiting between Saturn and Uranus, by the way, but I try to use Sign modfiies Planet focused on House in my interpretations. Since no one can agree on which sign or house Chiron rules, I take it out of aspect calculations and only use the planets. Planets, in this sense, are "stronger" than planetoids/asteroids because they have a sign and house attached to them. I sometimes interpret Chiron on its own but have frequently found that the interpetation of the chart comes out just as well without as with Chiron.

The nodes represent out life goals...both the goals of our past life (where we start out) and the goals of our present life (where we want to end up). To me, the nodes are the MOST important points in a chart to understand.

I have looked at Magi Astrology, but have found it too "fatalistic"..."Oh, you have X square Y so you HAVE to be this way" type of interpretations. Not my cup of tea, as the Brits say! ;-)

Your chart's shape is not perfect, but it is mostly a bowl:
From Tracy Marks' "The Art of Chart Interpretation":

quote:
Bowl pattern - "All planets fall within 180 degrees (or a maximum of 190 degrees) and on one side of an opposition, and no more than 60 degrees or two houses of the occupied portion of the chart are empty...can function in a self-contained manner in the houses occupied by planets, but usually focuses upon achieving in the unoccupied area (particularly in the sign and house which opposes the midpoint of the bowl)...(the first [planet] to have crossed the ascendant, moving clockwise) indicates the energies most frequently used to fulfill his/her needs."

I will leave it for an astro-exercise for you to figure out what that means!

Here is my chart info:
September 6, 1964
6:30 AM
Galesburg, Illinois USA

As a budding astrologer let's leave my age and planet positions as your second astro-exercise! ;-)

Answering,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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