posted April 07, 2006 03:03 AM            

also my sister is a scorpio sun/cap moon and she was colder than ice, and the more she liked someone the more shyer she was, but she would talk to the guy, but never make the first move-

posted April 07, 2006 08:19 AM              

I can be reserved sometimes, I am most definetly a workaholic, i have a bmw and i probably will have 2 jobs soon the way things are going in my life at the mo! I'm not necessarily striving for material possessions but i do strive for money! I'm obsessed with making it then blowing it! lol

In terms of letting people know I'm interested, i will do everything to make sure they DONT know. Unless i would get some very obvious signals i probably wouldn't make a move...

have a nice day

posted April 07, 2006 11:55 AM              

I think you’ll find most Cap moons have been burnt one too many times in their childhood/adolescence.. and they’re almost paranoid about this trust issue, myself included lol
Basically try to stick to your word. If you say you’re definitely going to do something then do it. Don’t back track. If you *know* you can’t do it then don’t say you will and get out of it later leaving Cap moon with the responsibility to pick up the pieces and fix everything on their own. This happens to Cap moons constantly and every time they swear they’ll never trust anyone again, so please don’t lol

*You’re making the trust issues worse that way*

Don’t lie, don’t lie by omission either, try to show strength of character in your actions. If you *do* stuff up in some way (romantically/emotionally, since we’re talking moons) please please please whatever you do, don’t try to cover it up or pretend you didn’t or pretend nothing happened.. The Cappy mooner is too old for these games. They know you did it. Just admit to it. Personally I could get over anything, no matter how bad (Saturn’s pretty resilient) as long as the person admits it honestly and apologises. Saturn is much more likely to want to correct negative behaviour.. not put it down or run away from it.

posted April 07, 2006 03:32 PM              

Oh! And take a look at the posts written by folks with this moon. Pretty clear and dry, yes? Not too much spunk and craziness. It's pretty much how we come across if you asked us a general question of what is in our nature.

Every Capricorn Moon person always looks out for their best interests. Always. We will almost always be diplomatic with people we don't even like, simply because we never what may happen in the future and if there will be an encounter where we would need each other. Diplomatic does NOT mean we like or dislike, or even being friendly. Diplomatic is not even about respect or tolerance. Diplomatic has the word POLITIC in it. Something worth thinking about if one is serious about getting to know a Capricorn Moon.

I totally agree with the part about how we may respect someone, but absolutely not trust them. Like, I can respect how someone made their way through life or if they are very gifted and talented with something. Let's say, I respect Sarah Chang. She is a extraordinarily talented violinist and has worked very hard to where she is today. I have seen her twice in concert with the San Francisco Symphony. Do I trust her? No, I don't know her. Another example, I respect a former co-worker very much. His name is Pete and a Libra Sun. Very charming, not intellectually bright. But, he has been able to use his charm to his advantage and has built up a good business where he can earn at minimum $600K a year and raise a family. He has never had kids of his own and takes care of his wife's children from previous marriages. He has my respect for many reasons, just not my personal trust.

Capricorn Moon will generally want to get know people for many different reasons. I have never met a person with this placement who didn't want to learn about a person who was very different from them. If a person has the emotion of dislike within the Capricorn Moon, you can be very sure we will want to know as much about that person as humanly possible. The keep it inside. Filed away. We don't waste emotional resources exacting revenge. And a good chance is we won't get emotional and won't put on a good show for the public about how much we dislike someone. We just have the data for future reference. We never know when we may have to use it.

Good Luck!

posted April 07, 2006 03:52 PM              

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With all due respect.....how can u respect someone w/o trusting them?

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Well, I'm not sure I can explain it any better as when I read Lauren saying that I can have a lot of respect for someone and like their personality but at the same time not trust them at all. my Cap Sun was nodding in happy agreement. I have bunch of Cap Moon friends and they too are all like that. In attempt to rephrase it, guess it could be said that there is the tendency (ability) to separate clearly what we are thinking of someone and how we feel about someone. Capricornian respect could be earned with good work, ambition and integrity (or some other combination), but trust is lot more elusive.

posted April 07, 2006 04:55 PM              

But me being a typical virgo...I'd like to ask, if ur looking always for ur best interests....can that tip toe around the area of pragmatism, and perhaps, using others...or am i being too cynical?

I understand that moon caps are "pretty clear and dry" and don't have "craziness" like u stated....but how can you get that spunky free spirit out...if there is any, and if there is a way to do it?

I want to know because I like to know how personalities work and how I can tap into people's soft spots...not to use it against...just u can say, i like to charm my way through..lol

posted April 07, 2006 05:54 PM              

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I understand that moon caps are "pretty clear and dry" and don't have "craziness" like u stated....but how can you get that spunky free spirit out...if there is any, and if there is a way to do it?

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You have to show them that you're ok with them being "clear and dry" first and that that doesn't put you off. You'll see a noticeable change then. But if you expect them to act "crazy" right away that'll put them off and you'll just get more of the dry attitude. Making any sense?

posted April 07, 2006 05:55 PM              

You mean like how you are using us to help you understand and catch the interest of this certain Capricorn moon person you speak of? I mean, you are asking these questions for your own best interests. I don't think anyone here has thought cynically of you for doing the same thing in starting this thread. Right?

"I understand that moon caps are "pretty clear and dry" and don't have "craziness" like u stated....but how can you get that spunky free spirit out...if there is any, and if there is a way to do it?"

Spunky free spirit? I think having the security of something trustworthy and grounded to fall back on. It's rare to find a spunky Cap moon. Just being honest with you here. I have Uranus peregrine in my chart, and the craziest thing I've done was go backpacking in Mexico. But, I had resources that I felt were grounding in case things got carried away or something really bad were to happen.

posted April 08, 2006 12:54 AM              

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With all due respect.....how can u respect someone w/o trusting them?

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Maybe it's my Pisces Merc talking here, but I realise people are human. I realise they make mistakes and will continue to make mistakes, always.. and I realise I will also. I'm a lot harder on myself than I am on other people. I can't *dislike* someone simply because they are immature or flighty or unreliable or maybe even straight out liars.. because I know we all have those traits and we've all made the same mistakes at one point or another.

This doesn't mean I'll ever *trust* an immature, flighty, unreliable liar.. Once I know they're untrustworthy, it would be completely nonsensical for my Cap moon to *trust*..

But, I - respect and like - people based on their soul, who they are deep deep down inside, not whichever action they take at any particular time. The gossip queen who I know would tell the whole world my deepest darkest secrets with no qualms, might also be the first person to jump in shark infested waters to save my life.. does that make sense? Lol There are different levels of trust and different things different people can be trusted with.. I take the good with the bad, with most people.. but I don’t ignore the bad and I’m definitely *aware* of it.. so that’s where my distrust comes from.

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I can respect how someone made their way through life or if they are very gifted and talented with something. Let's say, I respect Sarah Chang. She is a extraordinarily talented violinist and has worked very hard to where she is today. I have seen her twice in concert with the San Francisco Symphony. Do I trust her? No, I don't know her. Another example, I respect a former co-worker very much. His name is Pete and a Libra Sun. Very charming, not intellectually bright. But, he has been able to use his charm to his advantage and has built up a good business where he can earn at minimum $600K a year and raise a family. He has never had kids of his own and takes care of his wife's children from previous marriages. He has my respect for many reasons, just not my personal trust.

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Very true, Aphrodite.

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My thing is, and Lauren knows about it (I dont' know if u remember), is that I liked this guy, but tripped a few times...he never told me if he liked me back, so that just adds to the uncertainty. I appologized, and he was ok with it, but he was still standoffish...so I just backed off, with an occasional email (once a month, maybe..), hoping that he'd cool down, and maybe I'll approach him again later, or he would approach me, which ever comes first.

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Yes, I remember this.. I told you my bf is Libra/Cap moon and Virgo Mars also. Whatever happened between you and this guy the only way to fix it is TIME. If you think this might become unnerving for you, you might be better of leaving it.. I hope this doesn’t sound mean. I just don’t think there are any quick fixes for this situation and with a leo moon/aries asc, I’m not sure you’d like to stick around.
I wouldn’t back off too much or give him time to cool down. He’s already cool. He always has been. If you give him too much space he’ll just convince himself that you’re definitely not interested so he’ll get cooler and cooler, until he’s darn right cold and he moves on. I think you should keep in touch, properly.. not just an email a month.. do whatever you used to do before the falling out you had. Call him, hang out, go out every now and then.. don’t push it though or over-do-it romantically in any way.. just be there and be his friend for a while.. like I said give it time. If he’s willing to go along with this then you can eventually re-build his trust in you.

If he seems unwilling to, *ignore it*.. Don’t give him much of a choice..he’ll just procrastinate. For instance, if you call him up, don’t say “do you wanna go out today”..more like “Hey I miss you, I’ll pick you up at 6.. See ya” lol seriously.. the more you give him time to *think* the worse it gets. Libra is shocking with these things.. He’ll think so much he’ll give himself a migraine. A lot of times Cap mooners..specially the men.. will say “no” out of a sense of righteousness when they really mean *yes*.. You either have to ignore the no’s..or never give them the chance to say no in the first place.. Try to completely distract him from his sombre “life’s all about duty and doing what’s right” ideas lol .. Trying to change these ideas won’t work.. Talking it out, discussing and debating it, crying, screaming, shouting, standing on your pride *won’t* work. Just distract him. Beauty distracts.. Charm distracts. Femininity distracts..

posted April 08, 2006 04:21 AM            

I'm an Aquarian, with a double Uranus singleton, Venus in Sag, strong Pluto and Sun conjunct Mars in opposition to Jupiter... I'm quite reckless at times, actually!

At the same time, what you said about us Cappy mooners never being casual... is so true. Even my off the cuff remarks sound rehearsed sometimes... tyhis statement rings so true to me:

We can be flirty with all the trappings of twinkles and dust, but being super casual with COLORFUL emotions to get to know someone is just not us!

I've felt for a long time that my Capricorn moon even made me AWKWARD socially for a long whole. Really shy at times. And it was so hard because it was so at odds with the rest of my personality. And it's strange, because looking at my transits, Saturn was opposite my Moon during those years.

I hardly EVER get hysterical or overcome emotionally. I can almost always discuss` the most heartfelt emotions rationally. it's hard, because sometimes people percieve you to be unfeeling, because you can articulate your problems and feelings so... unfeelingly. Perhaps this is amplified in me because of the strong Aquarian/Uranus energy in my chart, but it's frustrating. People don't take what i'm saying seriously, like I can be asking for help with something delibitating, and I may have swallowed my pride to do so... and it gets sept under the rug with a comment like "well, you seem to be handling it pretty well"... OK, BUT I'M REALLY NOT!! You know?

I too am very money motivated and I have own very successful business. I'm not too into fancy cars... I have a nice one, but I invest most of my profits into real estate and splurge on travel. My goal is complete financial freedom and I suppose this is very Capricornian. Some people think I'm obsessed with money and very materialistic, but I'm motivated to make lots of money because of the FREEDOM it will buy me (Aquarius). Beautiful things are also nice... but... not my motivation at all.

When I dated, I was never one of those girls that would date some no job having, no ambition having punk or criminal or anything like that. I could never understand that either. I was always acutely aware that anyone I took seriously might be the father of my children and that my children deserved the very best.

I don't have any children now, but that instinct of a man needing to be a good provider was always apparent. Some may think this is bad. Whatever your opinion, I do believe this is from my Capricorn Moon -- which sits on my IC.

I've had the best emotional relationships with other earth moons, fyi.

If you you cross me when I've trusted you whole heartedly, it's not going to be easy to ever get that trust back. I believe that earth moons are perhaps the most sensitive of all, for we portray a kind of coolness (well... virgo and cap do... not so much cancer)... but if we let you in and you betray us, we are so hurt that it's hard to recover.

posted April 08, 2006 06:14 AM              

Hello, nice to meet you
But I think my casual attitude probably has something to do with my libra asc.
Oh, and one thing I can say with certainty is that we DON'T like to make mistakes, which is why we are so reserved sometimes.

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"I would sooner fail than not be among the greatest."
John Keats

posted April 09, 2006 01:41 AM            

mars446, I think you may be reading too much into a few interactions. It's very hard to tell what someone is thinking EXACTLY when they haven't told you clearly.

Having said that, I know myself and I've heard other cappy mooners are like this too... if I really like someone, I get weird around them, lol. So that might explain why he's so chatty with others and gets quiet around you and finds it hard to make eye contact.

posted April 09, 2006 06:23 AM              

Personally I think there are some pretty big communication problems between you two. You don't seem comfortable *really* talking to this guy and asking questions and being honest. I'm thinking this is a mercury-mercury situation. What were your mercury signs? I forgot.

If his mercury is in Scorpio, like my bf.. that might make sense considering your moon is Leo.. maybe that square throws you off.. so the way he expresses himself doesn't agree with you emotionally.. do you think that might be it?

It'd be a good idea to get more communication going.. I get the feeling there’s this awkwardness with you two.. or at least it seems that way.. I mean obviously I don’t know the situation so I can only go on what you’re posting, but for him to say *hi* then act weird.. and not talk much.. that’s not what someone acts like if they’re comfortable. He’s obviously nervous/weird and uncomfortable.. so yes I think this could be because he likes you, but his behaviour won't change any time soon unless you actually make him feel a bit more *ok* around you.. I mean if he looks away or doesn’t say hi properly or walks away.. why let him? ..grab his arm and go for a walk.. and talk to him.