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CapGirl
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posted April 08, 2006 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone found certain natal chart aspects indicating fear of commitment or intimacy? I have a venus-uranus square in my own chart which describes wanting to be close yet needing to be free... I'm also wondering if any of the moon-pluto, or neptune-pluto aspects could translate into such a condition?

Interested in hearing from others who have dealt with commitment phobic men, and noticed or recalled chart aspects which could be linked or attributed to it...

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Gem-Sag
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posted April 08, 2006 04:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny you bring this up becasue I was just talking to a friend about this issue.
I don't know too many guys who are commitment phobic probably becasue I'M the phobic one, so I'm not around long enough to figure it out. I find it's a big issue with me and I find it really hard to resolve and I REALLY want to.

O.k. atrologically in my case:

Cancer rising, moon in Sagittarius - I need security but freedom at the same time..hard to do with some people.

Venus in 12 in gemini- I'm not aorund long and I find it hard to exprees my feelings OR I have a fear of calling them back after the first meeting(moon opposition venus, mercury in 12th)

and the biggie: (drum roll.....)
Mars and Saturn in Scorpio in the 5th house. - I'M SO SCARED of a long term relationship....eeek! (btw they are in conjunction, about a degree apart)

I would love to have a long term committed relationship but I find it REALLY hard to do..I can't exactly put my finger on why I have trouble (fear of losing my ID, fear of failure, dont want to put the effort into it, fear of loosing freedom) are possible ideas.
As for pluto in my chart it's in the 5th house too but it's not making any major aspects with other planets. So maybe pluto is up to something here but I'm not sure how it works in(ecept for the scorpio inflence that I mentioned before)

Hope I gave you some insight on committment phobic people. I bet it really depends on each case as well. I really would like to figure out this myself as well....
I still have hope, I've got Jupiter on the 7th house cusp

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CapGirl
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posted April 08, 2006 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting Gem-Sag. I am Cancer rising and Sag. moon also! I have Venus and Sun in the 7th house though, so I feel like I am ambling along geared for marriage and kids (been married/divorced once). The guy I suspect of being commitment phobic has moon square venus... I don't know his house placements though as I don't know a birthtime.

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Gem-Sag
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posted April 08, 2006 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally and from what I have read moon square/opposition venus will make it hard for the individual to get their feelings and what they want in their love life on the same plane...having the opposition, obviously I'm at odds with them. It's as if my social relationships (friemds, partners) tend to get in the way of what I feel and what I need to feel good. I find it really hard to get close to people (I do have a big 12 house influence too)
As for sign and house placements
moon in sag in 6th
venus in gem in 12
I tend to say that I am busy with my work (6th house working here?)(school, job, exercise). They are my excusses for not wanting to get invlovled with people sometimes. I put these things first, which isn't a bad thing but there shouldn't be a reason why I need but this ahead of a relationship a lot of a time - even if it's just a 2nd date.
I'd like to know how many times I have said "Oh, I can't go out tonight because I have to study, I have to work tomorrow, I'm going for a run tomorrow-gotta be well rested etc"

There's some insight on the moon deal. I bet people who have moon conjunction,trine or sextile venus are better with committment issues, but I guess the whole chart needs to be looked at there

Finished rambling,

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Jupiter
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posted April 08, 2006 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Everyone,
I'm a Sag with
moon: Sag
Mercury:Sag
Neptune:Sag
and my progressed Vevus in Sag. I will tell that I really feel the whole freedom- don't fence me in thing is a Sag thing. At the same time the whole I desire to fall in love and connect thing is also a Sag thing. However I find that eventually we Sags need to leave and go on our next adventure. I've been in long term relationships - but when the adventure begings to call I have to leave.
anyone else experience this?
thanx-Jupiter

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jkxx
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posted April 08, 2006 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CapGirl,

I have venus square uranus (and mars square uranus too) and absolutely can't be 'fenced in' by any relationship or situation. I'll commit to it easily enough but if anyone tries to limit my freedom there'll be a violent stubborn counterreaction to their efforts.

Venus in Gem in general is a placement which makes it difficult to sustain relationships. I suspect Venus in the other mutable signs would have a similar effect.

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star seeker
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posted April 09, 2006 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy I'm in love with is a Leo with the moon and mars in Saggitarius, ascendant in Gemini, Venus in Libra. I'm an Aquarian, moon in Cancer, Mars in Taurus ad Venus in Aquarius. He has a complete phobia to commitment. The funny thing is that he has been married twice because both girls told him they were pregnant, and none was.
There is no other way he will get married so, these kind of persons almost always end up attached through deception and not love. If you don't want attachments, don't go near a serious person, you wil make her/him suffer and it is not fair. If you want to be happy and have those aspectations, just act through your heart and forget being afraid. Of course, you have to choose a very uranian person, and you will never be bored.
If not, you can lose the love and happiness of your life. I know, I'm ready to quit.

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Inner depths
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posted June 07, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can strongly relate to this cause I'm so freedom loving and one very very hard catch. Though I have 3 of the freedom loving signs emphasized. I have sun opposite uranus in the 5th - gives one a strong uranian quality - especially with an Aqua MC and north node.

I have Jupiter in Sag conj neptune in sag - Sags are often noted for their freedom loving - don't fence me in quality and I have the sign of Sag on my 7th house. I have Sun in Aries in the 11th.

My T square also fires things up too - Sun in aries opposite Uranus in Libra in the 5th square to mars in cappy in the 8th.

What off balances this is my moon in cancer in the 2nd and venus in pisces in the 10th. My pisces venus feels so lost without a relationship and just needs to be needed. The moon in cancer wants somebody to nuture and take care of......even though I don't have a mate (I shudder to think of getting one)..I have my little daughter.

I don't see her leaving my side cause her chart is packed with cancer planets.

ID

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writesomething
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posted June 07, 2006 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Opp/Sq SATURN....:/
makes a person very cold, and hard to get into...
I think it is a aspect that could be linked to commitment phobic...

Moon SQ/OP Venus- Yup, seen it time and again, these people dont get married until their late 30s unless other indictations in chart.

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sdg1844
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posted June 07, 2006 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm a Sun/Mars/Venus sq. Uranus and Pluto, so you wanna talk about freedon and commitment issues. Like I said in another thread, I want to be close and intimate, but have my space and freedom @ the same time.

Don't know how that's gonna happen.

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Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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