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sweetlibra
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posted April 11, 2006 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it make a person forceful? By forceful i meant "It is right, because i said so" kind of attitude.
If not what aspects in a chart makes one having that kinda attitude?
please share your opinion.

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wilsontc
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posted April 12, 2006 12:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweet,

I think of forceful people as being more associated with a strong Pluto in their chart.

Guessing,

Tim

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sweetlibra
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posted April 12, 2006 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, what makes pluto strong in one's chart?

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shop22much
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posted April 12, 2006 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the 1st(aries house),8th(scorpio house), or 10th(capricorn house) I would assume would make a "strong" pluto...I knew a guy who had pluto in the 10th house, he owns half of hollywood, and is very powerful...
Pluto as your midheaven is very potent I think as well...


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Gem-Sag
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posted April 12, 2006 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweetlibra,
I have 3 personal planets its gemini-it may not ba a huge influence but its significant!
I can be rather chatty at times and my mind is always on the go - but I don't think I'm forceful about my ideas and opinions. (But I do know a gemini who is!)
But then again, my MC is in pisces, gemini is in the 12th house and pluto in the 5th so I don't think I'm going to be really forceful anytime soon lol.
view from a gemini,
Gem-Sag

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mysticaldream
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posted April 12, 2006 08:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have Pluto in the 10th house (conjunct Mars, Jupiter and Uranus!) I only WISH I owned half of Hollywood. LOL.
I don't know that I come across as forceful; I don't think so. Venus and Neptune are conjunct my ascendant, though. SO........if I want to try and get my way, I do so by charm, not force. Tim, wouldn't you say that planets in the first house or conjunct Ascendant affect the way you are seen by others? I will say that bosses and authority figures get under my skin pretty easily and I hate being told what to do. All truth be told, I would rather be my own boss. I think Pluto in the 10th house contributes to this but I am not sure...still learning here.

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AcousticGod
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posted April 12, 2006 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those in the Global Unity section of this place might agree with you, sweetlibra.

I've got a Gemini Ascendant backed by Mars in Scorpio (6th), and Sun in Capricorn in the 8th. I've also got Saturn in the first.

I can be rather forceful in a debate.

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wilsontc
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posted April 12, 2006 01:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweet,

Shop summed it up pretty well!

Answering without answering,

Tim

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sweetlibra
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posted April 12, 2006 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The person I am talking about has Gem moon and Asc in 1st house, cappy mars in 8th.

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wilsontc
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posted April 13, 2006 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sweet,

You are only focusing on a few planets. The "It is right, because i said so" attitude usually has to do with power (Pluto) and arrogance (Sun) in some kind of stressful relationship. The need to push their self-expression others. The planets you describe don't by themselves seem to indicate this.

Urging focusing on a bigger astrological picture,

Tim

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Taurus80
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posted April 13, 2006 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow Gem-Sag..

we have a lot of the same aspects..i've noticed it before in other posts..cool!

i too have MC pisces, pluto in 5th, gemini in 12th (venus). i also have asc gemini cusp.. yep chatty am i, forceful not!

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martian
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posted April 13, 2006 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto is the most powerful planet, no doubt about it. the planet is there to give you the resources to survive circumstances that threaten to destroy you. But, the sun and the moon are not planets! they are luminaries.therefore,your true power is in your sun and moon.

when you use the power of your sun sign correctly, you can penetrate any trial in your life with confidence, strength and lack of fear. You dont need to utilize your most primtive of instincts, which of course are very powerful(pluto). Pluto in your chart serves you like the military. If you fail to survive with warmth, benevolence, and love, then pluto steps in to preserve you no matter what the cost.

The moon is your imaginative and spiritual side. If we can be creative in our efforts to live together and be at peace with one another, again, pluto in your chart does not need to be mobilised.

The planets are accessories in my opinion. The Sun and the Moon could handle themselves just fine if we utilise them correctly i think.

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sdg1844
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posted April 13, 2006 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 4 planets in Gemini, but I have Pluto in my 1st house which tends to make me very forceful. I've found that I've had to tone down my energy alot because I know that people can be put off by it.

I've been told that I can be a bit overwhelming @ times, so I tend to hide behind my Sun/Venus conjunction which makes me appear very pleasant. I believe in that old expression that you can catch more bees w/hone than vinegar.

I do nice first and if I'm pushed, I'll do really nasty 2nd.

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Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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boo
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posted April 13, 2006 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot of gem in my chart too but..the thing I noticed about gems is they seem to always want to make a statement. A verbal statement. 'I am Gemini, hear me roar'. This is seemingly the cause of this impossing nature of theirs.

They are very good at pretending shhhh! doesnt matter. When it does. It really does.

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sdg1844
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posted April 13, 2006 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm a Gem and when I speak it's not about making a "statement" or anything else for that matter.

I try to speak from the heart and I think before I speak because I'm very conscious of the power of words. They create energy and once they are out, there's no taking them back.

I choose my words carefully and I have always been that way. That's why I chose the signature I have @ the end of all my posts.

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Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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Gem-Sag
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posted April 13, 2006 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Taurus80, were we born around the same time? i'm june 13/84

As for having a strong gemini influence and forceful/communication thing...I think there is a need to communicate in some form as a gemini, (whether it's forceful, just blabbing away, deep down from the heart, telepathically, to UFO's, to yourself, or on an astrology chat board that you absolutley love, etc. would probably depend on other types of aspects and house placements etc.)
I'd defenetly take a look at mercury, mars and pluto and see what the 3rd house is up to. But i'm no where near a pro and may just be blabbing away!
I think it may depend on the person that is recieving the communication from the gemini and how they feel about how they communicate too..example my mom's sun is square my mercury, we talk a lot but there are times where she just doesn't understand what I mean at all lol (I do have mercury opposition uranus so wierd is the norm with how I communicate), or we will argue over stupid things - and they may stem from miscommunication in the first place.

My 2 cents from a gem perspective
Gem-Sag

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