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hippichick
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posted May 02, 2006 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

I really could use some advice regarding a Taurus man that I have been dating.

I am about to smack him in the a$# with my fish tail and swim away very quickly.

We have been "dating" for one month and as of our first date, he was just 3 weeks out of an awful 2 1/2 year relationship. He told me fairly quickly that he was not looking for a long term relationship, just "dating friends" but during the past 4 weeks he has confused me so. Despite his statement, he moved things very quickly along, calling alot, texting alot, wanting to spend alot of time together. We agreed to hold off on sex as we agreed that sex has all kinds of implications in itself. Then he took some time off work, had hand surgery and became a real wierdo. He became aloof, non-caring, self absorbed, disrespectful and mean. Stopped calling so much, but still made it very clear that he was interested and at this point he made statements like "I am taking my time, want to know where my head is..." Then then next thing out of his mouth is "when can I see you." So we go for a walk in the woods last weekend, during his break from work and he is very sweet, wanting to hold hands, etc. Then the next day re-states his stand on forming a long term relationship at this point.

I have really had it with him, and am backing off entirely, he can contact me if he wants but I will not be available at this point.

So, guys, and girls, am I over-thinking this one? Should I remain his friend and let it ride or RUN? I am thinking he is very confused, a bit emotionally immature and just plain wierd! But I tend to like em wierd!!

Thank you all in advance!

Me: Pisces Sun, Venus
Moon Taurus
Merc, Mars, Jup, Aqua

Him: Sun, Taurus
Moon Scorpio (most likely, dont have
his birth time)
Venus Gemini
Merc Aries
Mars Virgo

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posted May 02, 2006 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen this time and time again... It's not about astrology, for the most part. He has issues- commitment fears- from the past bad relationship or maybe even further back. He is "screaming" commitmentphobic with all that he keeps saying, yet at the same time contradicting it w/ his actions. (Have you seen "ShopGirl" yet with Steve Martin?? He's a total commitmentphobe in the movie and gives this speech warning Claire Danes at the beginning to basically have no expectations.)

Get the books by Steve Carter and Julie Sokol, "Men Who Can't Love" and "He's Scared, She's Scared"- They are invaluable to understanding this behavior which you will find to become a pattern/cycle - a push/pull behavior.

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posted May 02, 2006 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having just got out of a long term relationship, he's probably used to spending time with someone doing couple ish things.. so that's what he knows.. that's his experience...
So while he says he is not ready to be half of a couple ( believe him, what you choose to do with this knowledge is up to you, and who knows how it will evolve in the future)
So his behaviour is one thing.. he lkikes you, likes spending time with you, therefore expresses it as he is used to.. but he is not ready to have another long thing...
but who can predict readiness/future readiness.
He needs time to know himself as a self, a single entity...
Respect yourself and him enough to understand this... back off, if you choose.... don't exhaust yourself .... he probably means everything he says and does.. and they are contradictory.. which should lead you to believe that he is not in a state of readiness/acceptance.
Act accordingly, with your best interests in mind.

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hippichick
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posted May 02, 2006 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pixel and Cap

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posted May 02, 2006 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardless of what he wants or keeps talking about - what it is YOU want out of the relationship?

If he wants something superficial or lighthearted and you start to want a serious relationship, what will you be willing to settle for down the road?

If you are only wanting to have that "dating" type of relationship, then you'll be fine. Just lay it out on the line that you are happy with the dating and you are not looking to push it, so he really doesn't need to keep preaching to the choir.

Ask if you have given him any reason to keep lecturing you about what he wants because you are perfectly find with the status quo.

He may also be doing that as a result of his own actions and feelings. Talking to hear himself talk reassures him that he is right in not getting serious.

At the same time, make sure that you are not falling for him or wanting a relationship if he only wants the dating part. Sometimes Taurus has a hard time being alone and they seek companionship for the sake of having someone there. Please don't be that someone or you will only get hurt. Also, don't be that rebound person - I've seen that happen to friends and I watched it happen to several others when I broke things off with my ex. He used them and threw them away while pining for me.


LOL.. now he knows the serious status of my relationship with the Leo -so he sends me an e-mail saying that now "he" is married. LMAO... more power to him - hopefully the wifey is real and not made up like his fictional deceased daughter. (Please don't think your Taurus is like that - mine just had major issues and came up with the daughter story when he sensed I was getting ready to break up with him early in the relationship).

Good luck and keep us posted

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posted May 02, 2006 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon

Uhhhhh...I am a hardhead?! Just find him so darn fascinating! Guess I am a glutton for punishment!!

Fishtail wigglin!

Thanks

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posted May 02, 2006 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon

PS, he had made mention to me in the past that he is bi-polar.

To add insult to injury

And, well, after reading your thread on the Liz Greene writings, it is making more sense. He is a former Green Beret, who got shot in Afghanistan and carries a gun for "personal protection." He wants madly to be back on the "front line" but can not due to his injury. I have that particular Greene book think I will study it in depth tonight. Am getting a bit scared now, may make definate plans to swim soon, deep and far away.

Thanks again,

Terri

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posted May 03, 2006 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HD You have given me greater insight and yummy food for thought!

He blames himself for his divorce 3yrs ago and the breakup of his recent relationship.

And he is very confused now, about alot of things. I do not find him so much fascinating as to his personality, had enough of the bad boy type (although I seem drawn to them over and over) but something draws me in on a soul level, but the soul is tireing of this very fast.

When I first saw him several months ago, I saw him from the back and his energy just pulled me in and I had to investigate. Not many people, let alone men captivate me like that.

Anyway all of this is for some sort of learning, I am jsut trying to understand where he is coming from better so that I may make a more clear decision about what to do about him. One of those situations where the "ego" says go and the soul says stay.

Thanks for your help. Any further insights very much appreciated!

Terri
(3/10/62 1130pm)

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posted May 07, 2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD

Thanks again

Been studying this man and Taurus males in depth. Still so intruguing, alluring, captivating.

Have never been "involved" with an earth sign, all air and one water, earth just befuddles me. I think alot of it is that his earth makes my wateriness just sit in one place and stew, boil, become stormy and tumultuous, the energy has no where to go except on itself, myself. But....does not water wear earth down, slowly, but surely? A little at a time, piece by piece.......

Thanks again,

Terri

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posted May 08, 2006 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD

You make me giggle this late hot pre-summers eve!

No, not everyone in Texas carries a gun, or atleast I do not think so, you do need a license! HA! But in San Antonio, it may not be a bad idea at times!

Sorry, I am having a heart over head battle here. I think the army and gun thing is because he feels himself lacking a bit as a man and cannot accept himself for who he is. I have this theory about men brought up in America in the past several generations...

So many expectations of men, to hunt, kill, provide a home, bring home the meat, protect the homestead and not shead a single tear or show a single emotion over it all. Not to mention nowadays, keep up with the "Joneses" be upwardly mobile in one's career, o, the list goes on and on. I think society has done its part to degrade men as much as women have been, just in a different way. Atleast women are allowed to "feel."

Believe me, your awesome advice has been well taken, and registered in my thick head! I bear the scars of PTSD from a long, emotionally and verbally abusive marriage and absolutely will not set myself up for that again!

I enter this with caution, (if I in fact enter at all) my heart surrounded in white light, just may have to find what is up with this guy and why I am so drawn to him, the jury is still out, though, and I am liable to walk, I mean swim away at any moment, and I will know when that moment is here, and I feel it is not too far off!! Just doing my research and you have been helpful beyond my wildest imaginations!!

Honestly, I am probably too "out there" for this earthy individual. I float through life, speak in a poet's voice and live through my heart and I am sure he does not know what to make of all that!

I am quite comfortable floating in the "etheral" plane, and will not come down for anybody for too long!

Sending, Peace, Love and Light,

Terri


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posted May 08, 2006 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon PS

I LIVE with techincolored glasses on, take them off occasionally to clean the lenses, my gosh, I am a Pisces sun after all!!!!

I hate snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!
But do not buy too much into Chineese Astrology anyway, I am no Tiger!!!!!!!!!!

And, of course I have investigated all I legally can about him, including the Green Beret status, saw with my own 2 eyes (through the technicolored glasses) his medals, the actual Beret and a framed gun with which he was shot with. He has a purple heart as well.

Also, women tend to live through their hearts more than men, which often gets us in trouble, but I have always followed my heart and always will and it has been broken many, many times, but still....... Also the Pisces Sun that I am enables me to live in a dream state, why it is almost mandatory! I have learned to be somewhat objective, as you say and a bit discriminating in my "old" age, hence the research on this Taurus fellow (by the way I have a Scorpio rising and I am a very good researcher and a bit paraniod as well.)

YOUR objectivity and groundeness has enlightened me in and of itself regarding Taurus males.

Thank you again,

Terri

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posted May 08, 2006 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD

No offense taken! I LOVE viewing the world all colorful and pretty!!

Yea, someone once told me about a book that combined the two, will do a little more "research" (again) and check out Chineese Astrology.

Yes, post traumatic stress disorder, have dealt, though, makes me even more cautious, though

T.

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posted May 08, 2006 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Happy D!

Am beginning to see a bit of a complimentary air using Chinese Astrology with traditional western. I seem to be a bit of a Tiger when superimposed onto my natal chart and the slithery snake........, well, lets just say the fact that he wants to grow the grass in his yard deep and healthy (in South Texas nontheless) is no coincidence as to the potential snakeiness of the 65th birth year!!

Let me get your take on this...(please)

I decided to give him a bit of his own crap back last Thursday and when he texed me once I blew him off, texed me later and I again did not reply, (and the 2nd text he was obviously thinking as he appealed to me in inviting me to enagage in pool activities, which he knows this fish chick lives for,) then he texed a 3rd time with some "bull" (ha I laugh at the slang) crap about how he does not see this working, we just do not understand eachother, friends ok. etc. I saw that as total manipulation, but I played to fall for it, and the end result from him was "lets just see what fate brings our way (Pandora)"

My take on it is he was headed out of town, was feeling as if I was slipping away and used the only thing he knew in a pinch, manipulation with a dash of emotional blackmail. My response gave him the satisfaction that he was indeed still longed for so he could fly off into the wild blue yonder feeling I was securely stowed away.

Thanks,

T

I really think he is totally taken with me, I just have never dealt with an earth guy before and I am not sure I want all that this one implies!

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posted May 09, 2006 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Happy, did the bee reproduce? Are you the keeper of little beefloppys?

Yes I am artisitc or moreso creatively expressed in my more mature years. I used to draw when I was younger, but have lost interest in that over time. Now I love to write, manuscripts, blogs, poetry and am working on a book (slowly) at the moment. My creativity is further expressed in my home and gardens-rose,herb and vegetable, which are artistically combined and aestetically pleasing (Taurus moon!) I love to ponder the universe and poetically write down my ponderings (this one leaves Bull man totally confused, have had to reign myself in here.)

Think you should contact the ex, especially if it has come to your mind.

I have the L. Greene books that you speak of, no need to tire your fingers further. And speaking of her books, this Bull man of mine is also exhibiting the "shadow" side of the Taurus enigma. He tries to tell me that he is passionate about Christianity and that the Bible is the only book one should ever have to read, but I tell ya, he is one of the furthest examples of a Christian that I have ever seen! I have a few Taurus girlfriends and one who I have known since highschool is real into Catholosism, but is far from a Catholic!

Ya know, I dont put all of everything into Astrology, but it sure kicks my behind on most things, guess that is why it has survived for thousands of years!

Wish I could be somewhere that was cool enough for bees to be flying in and out of my windows! Am glad you liberated the poor creature.

T

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