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Ausra
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posted May 09, 2006 02:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, I have a query about signs of countries, particularly Australia (funny about that one!!!). Anyway, in most listings, Australia is listed as a Sagittarius country. Where does this date come from??? (other Aussies out there may know). The 2 main current dates (ie for european settlement) for Oz are Jan 26 1788- therefore Oz being Aquarius (suits the 'down under' thing - everything backwards, uspdide down, left side up etc), or Jan 1 1901 - thereby Oz being Capricorn.
I did see a chart cast for Jan 26 - placing Jupiter in 1st house (if think), so that would be the Sag thing.

Anyways maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. What are the dates used for other countries?

Cheers!!

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Iqhunk
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posted May 09, 2006 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Sphinx in Egypt marks the end of Leo and Pyramid marks begninning of Virgo. Hence 30 every degrees west of Sphinx in Egypt has a sign change.

Germany/Swiss/Norway/France/Poland/Sweden etc, [all the beautiful blonde babe countries ] are ruled by Leo. Includes South Africa because the entire longitude is covered.

All rigid Muslim countries of Middle East are ruled by Virgo.

India by Libra.

Sexy Thailand, China, parts of Russia and occult Tibet are ruled by Scorpio.

Japan and Australia are ruled by Sagittarius, New Zealand by Capricorn [Maximum sheep population in New Zealand].

French Canada, American East is
Gemini and Midwest/bible belts are hardworking Taurus.

Las Vegas and wild west are ruled by Aries.
Edge of California touching Pacific is Pisces and Pisces rules Alaska and a whole portion of Pacific.
Aquarius rules Hawaii and many volcanic islands.

(Got this info from Dane Rudhyar's book.)

The secondary method of using independence date will rule the country's political destiny until the next upheaval.
The actual vibrations and "feel" is always ruled as divided by the Sphinx.

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Ingrid
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posted May 09, 2006 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ingrid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ihqunk, this is very interesting! any idea about Spain?
Thank you

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Iqhunk
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posted May 09, 2006 07:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Senorita
Spain and Portugal are ruled by Cancer.
Britain is also ruled by Cancer.

Hence "Security" is the geographic keyword for these countries. Food security, family security, social security, home and mother are all very important.

Note how Spain and Britain were the Naval Superpowers in history. Being Cancerian, these nations were very comfortable in the sea.

The negative side expressed in colonialism where insecurity led to plunder of other countries wealth.

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Iqhunk
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posted May 09, 2006 07:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly, several of the Spanish Colonies are ruled by Gemini and Taurus.

Brazil, Argentinian coastline is Gemini. So the Latino beats and very fast music owes it to Mercury. Why they dribble so well in soccer? Maybe dribbling is ruled by Mercury, the feet being ruled by the opposite of Sagittarius.

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mars446
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posted May 09, 2006 06:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neat!!!!...next time I go to Egypt, I'll stay in the pyramids. Too hot at noon though...last summer I suffered dehydration

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Divine Goddess
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posted May 09, 2006 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Alan Leo (one of Linda's favorite astrologers)

ARIES: England, Denmark, Galatia, Germany, Lithuania, Lower Poland, Palestine, Syria or Judea (especially Lebanon and near Damascus)

TAURUS: Aderbijan, Archipelago, Asia Minor, Caucasus, Cyprus, Georgia, Holland, Ireland, Media, Mozendaran, Persia, Poland, North Russia.

GEMINI: Armenia, Belgium, Brabant, Egypt (lower), West England, Flanders, Lombardy, Sardinia, Tripoli, United States of America.

CANCER: Africa (north and west), Anatolia (Constantinople), Holland, Scotland, New Zealand.

LEO: Bohemia, Cappadocia, Chaldea, France, Italy, Puglia, Sicily, Coast of Sidon and Tyre.

VIRGO: Assyrua, Babylon, Candia, Corinth, Croatia, Greece, Lavadia, Mesopotamia, Morea, Silesia, Switzerland, Thessaly, Turkey.

LIBRA: Austria, China, Egypt, Japan, Livonia, Savoy, Tibet

SCORPIO: Algeria, Barbary, Bavaria, Catalona, Fez, Judea, Jutland, Morocco, Norway.

SAGITTARIUS: Arabia, Cape Finisterre, Dalmatia, Hungary, Moravia, Spain, Slavonia, Tuscany

CAPRICORN: Bosnia, Bulgaria, Circars, Hesse, India, Illyria, Khorassan, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mexico, Morea, Meckienburg, Thrace, Styria, Saxony.

AQUARIUS: Abyssinia, Circassia, Lower Sweden, Prussia, Poland, Piedmont, Russia, Tartary, Westphalia.

PISCES: Asia (southern), The Sahara Desert, Calabria, Nubia, Normandy, Portugal.


NOTE:- These are considered the Rising Signs of the country, Read the excerpt from a series of lectures Alan Leo delivered.

NOTE:- This lecture was delivered in the year 1900, so the socio-political conditions have indeed changed over the century, however if we refer to the state of the world in that time frame while reading this lecture, and keep an open mind as well, we can learn allot about the world.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*


There are certain signs that rise more rapidly in some countries than in others. Each sign governs a race or nation. The history of the whole world is contained in these twelve signs, but we are now looking at it merely from the national standpoint.

Aries rules England, and Mars is the ruler. You will find if you study the nature of Aries that the Britons are rather impulsive people, always independent and free; their ruling planet being Mars, it is warlike qualities which are to the fore. Those born under Aries are particularly courageous persons, evolving strength. It is very strange that the three signs following Aries govern the other three countries of the United Kingdom (Ireland, Wales, and Scotland), and we find the racial tendencies of these signs in those born in these countries. Thus we find the beauty of Taurus in the women of Ireland, while its power of stubborn resistance is well shown in the Irish peasantry. We have the qualities of Gemini coming out in the Welsh people, and the tenacious, clannish qualities of Cancer manifesting in the Scotch. The generosity and freedom of Aries is seen in the English people.

The United States also is governed by Gemini; and Africa by Cancer. There is a strange thing to be noted in connection with the large Transvaal War. I mentioned Mars rules England. Every planet has its 'exaltation' and 'fall' in some appropriate sign. Now Mars has it's 'fall' in Cancer, and you see what trouble Britain has had in Africa, whose ruling sign is Cancer, our then enemies showing just those tenacious characteristics typical of the sign; and all the trouble and difficulty arose from no other reason than that Mars has no dignity in Cancer. On the other hand in India, England holds sway because Mars is 'exalted' in Capricorn (the sign ruler of India). The whole history of nations is shown by their ruling planets and signs.

France is governed by Leo, and the French are very emotional and easily affected through their feelings; Virgo governs Turkey, and Libra China and Japan. Scorpio governs Barbary; Sagittarius, Spain; Capricorn India; Aquarius Russia; Pisces Portugal. So that by watching different planets governing these signs, you may predict just how a given nation will act. When what we are called Malefic planets pass through the signs governing these nations, they "stir them up". Mars passing through Leo always stirs up the French, for instance, and similarly planets passing through Aries affect the British. In 1916 and 1917, Jupiter will pass through Aries and England will be benefited. Each nation gains by the benefic planets, as they are called, passing through the sign that governs it, while when the malefic planets pass through they are afflicted.


Hope you found it insightful.

If anyone wants the full version of this lecture, do let me know

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Superstition is to religion what astronomy is to astrology: the mad daughter of a wise mother

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astroleolady
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posted May 09, 2006 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Astro.com and Liz Green:
http://www.astro.com/nat/nat_e.htm

National Charts, by Liz Greene

The national horoscopes on these pages were written by Liz Greene for the "Long-Term Horoscope" in the year 1999. The information on the years 2008 to 2024 was added in 2005. These interpretations are not printed in the "Long-Term Perspectives" anymore, since they bear no reference to the individual person but are concerned with a larger collective. For this reason, we have made them accessible to all.

All data for national horoscopes comes from The Book of World Horoscopes by Nicholas Campion, Cinnabar Books, Bristol, 1995.
Further information about the basis of these horoscopes may be found in the book.

Available Charts:

Argentina
Austria
Belgium
Switzerland
Denmark
Germany
Spain
France
Hungary
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
United Kingdom
Australia
Canada
Malaysia
Paraguay
United States
South Africa

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The national chart of Australia http://www.astro.com/nat/natau_e.htm
Asc- Aries, Sun- Capricorn

The national chart of Spain http://www.astro.com/nat/nates_e.htm
Asc- Aquarius, Sun- Scorpio

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Ausra
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posted May 11, 2006 10:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks heaps guys!!!!!

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Neptune's Muse
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posted May 12, 2006 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Divine Goddess's list makes a lot of sense!

Tameem, I think the man who made this list is rather an impressionistic one, judging by the general (feel) or characteristics of a nation or a region and not a country per se. Mind you, two countries in Europe might share the same sign according to your list and yet would drastically differ: Take Germany and France! COMPLETELY different attitudes. Leo nations are friendly and emotional albeit arrogant, I don't see Germany making the list.

Even in the Middle East, you packed the middle east in one bag and called it "rigid", hence, Virgo, countries differ drastically even in the same region. There are some parts in India and China more rigid than the most rigid nation in the Middle East.

Did I tell you how very politically incorrect this list is!

Good point though about the Cancer influence and obsession for security, Linda mentioned that the US has a Cancer Asc.! Funny how Scotland is the one with the Cancer sign, and in England it is called "Scotland Yard" = equivalent for american FBI. Interesting...

Thanks guys, great info!

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Kat
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posted May 13, 2006 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So is the US really Cancer??

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Ingrid
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posted May 15, 2006 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ingrid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you very much guys for your info!

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hot_ice
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posted May 15, 2006 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey I thought India was a leo...

atleast using the Independece date...15th August 1947...at 12 midnight...

cant use any other date cause ....we go back sooo far in history...

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posted May 15, 2006 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Kat, we believe that the day the US was created as a Republic, free of England's rule was July 4, 1776. That would make my dear Country a Cancer.

We also look at states on the day the were established within the Union. Cities also go by the date of establishment unless one wants to apply their own mystic day of conception based on other parameters.

The problem with that is obvious. How can ANYONE say when something was "established" Centuries ago early people walked on this Earth. The Aztec, Incan, Anasazi etc... walked on this continent. Do we go by their times when we are somewhat unclear? Or do we go in our modern time of when we "establish" a city on a specific date.

Let's look at Lindaland which is a Scorpio - but it's inception was long before that and Randall began it's creation months before we saw it go live... but we go by the day it WENT live.

I believe Linda Goodman stated Las Vegas was a Leo city.. in actuality Las Vegas was founded on May 15, 1905 and turned one hundred last year.

The site someone posted by Liz Greene gives a heck of a lot more accurate data.

~Pidaua

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Iqhunk
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posted May 17, 2006 05:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi NeptunesMuse,
Dane Rudhyar gave the longitudnal division and he was speaking from a galactic perspective of how certain lands in the biosphere are tuned to the Zodiac frequencies. The true spiritual son of the soil of these regions would exhibit the characteristics outlined irrespective of the Nations birthdate. The Popular Characteristics of the nation however would be according to the independence date.

Hence, India's soul is Libran but independence date states we are Leo and republic date says we are Aquarius. If we are Leo, how come we have no Individual Olympic Champions inspite of 1.2 billion Leo ruled people ? Yet several important events will make sense astrologically only when the Aug 15, 1947 date is used.
Dig deep into the mind of an Indian who lives in India. He will apsire for fairness and thats why knowledge of the Law of Karma is preserved in India.

You will be really surprised when you understand the the corollary of research from Carl Tobey and Dane Rudhyar. Tobey applied mathematics to Astrology and made a fool of every skeptic in his heydays, one Astronomy Professor even requesting Tobey not to telecast his video taped admission on the mathematical accuracy of Astrology. Tobey's best discovery was dividing every 30 degrees of the Zodiac into 12 parts ruled by the 12 signs such that the opposing sign was the last 1/12th part.

Imagine dividing Rudhyar's longitudes this way. With some more research on the latitudnal divisions (which have not been discovered satisfactorily), every Natural Calamity can be predicted.

It is a well known fact in India about being aware of where you drink your water from. This knowledge springs from the mathematical divisions of Earth's geography according to the Zodiac. Nations come and go, no Nation lasting in its entirety beyond a Pluto Cycle but the Earth's size is the same.

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posted September 17, 2015 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iqhunk:
Hi NeptunesMuse,
Dane Rudhyar gave the longitudnal division and he was speaking from a galactic perspective of how certain lands in the biosphere are tuned to the Zodiac frequencies. The true spiritual son of the soil of these regions would exhibit the characteristics outlined irrespective of the Nations birthdate. The Popular Characteristics of the nation however would be according to the independence date.

Hence, India's soul is Libran but independence date states we are Leo and republic date says we are Aquarius. If we are Leo, how come we have no Individual Olympic Champions inspite of 1.2 billion Leo ruled people ? Yet several important events will make sense astrologically only when the Aug 15, 1947 date is used.
Dig deep into the mind of an Indian who lives in India. He will apsire for fairness and thats why knowledge of the Law of Karma is preserved in India.

You will be really surprised when you understand the the corollary of research from Carl Tobey and Dane Rudhyar. Tobey applied mathematics to Astrology and made a fool of every skeptic in his heydays, one Astronomy Professor even requesting Tobey not to telecast his video taped admission on the mathematical accuracy of Astrology. Tobey's best discovery was dividing every 30 degrees of the Zodiac into 12 parts ruled by the 12 signs such that the opposing sign was the last 1/12th part.

Imagine dividing Rudhyar's longitudes this way. With some more research on the latitudnal divisions (which have not been discovered satisfactorily), every Natural Calamity can be predicted.

It is a well known fact in India about being aware of where you drink your water from. This knowledge springs from the mathematical divisions of Earth's geography according to the Zodiac. Nations come and go, no Nation lasting in its entirety beyond a Pluto Cycle but the Earth's size is the same.


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posted September 17, 2015 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Iqhunk:
Hi Senorita
Spain and Portugal are ruled by Cancer.
Britain is also ruled by Cancer.

Hence "Security" is the geographic keyword for these countries. Food security, family security, social security, home and mother are all very important.


Note how Spain and Britain were the Naval Superpowers in history. Being Cancerian, these nations were very comfortable in the sea.

The negative side expressed in colonialism where insecurity led to plunder of other countries wealth.


No. The sign of Portugal is Pisces. It's the traditional attribution and widely accepted.

This sign makes sense, because there is a clear difference between portuguese and the spanish neighbours. Portuguese are more introverted, sensitive and we have some curious mystical traditions.

There is a fascination with the other side, and many legends concerning a king that disappeared in battle and will one day return out of the fog to save the country...
Very Neptunian!
Also denying reality and problems seems to be a national sport around here...

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posted September 18, 2015 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!

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Randall
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posted September 19, 2015 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No doubt the US is Cancer.

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Originally posted by Ausra:
Hi everyone, I have a query about signs of countries, particularly Australia (funny about that one!!!). Anyway, in most listings, Australia is listed as a Sagittarius country. Where does this date come from??? (other Aussies out there may know). The 2 main current dates (ie for european settlement) for Oz are Jan 26 1788- therefore Oz being Aquarius (suits the 'down under' thing - everything backwards, uspdide down, left side up etc), or Jan 1 1901 - thereby Oz being Capricorn.
I did see a chart cast for Jan 26 - placing Jupiter in 1st house (if think), so that would be the Sag thing.

Anyways maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. What are the dates used for other countries?

Cheers!!


Dang! If it weren't for reptiles, insectoids, and dangerous aquatic species, the Outback would be perfect!

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posted October 02, 2015 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, and everything is poisonous!

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posted October 02, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aah08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have never thought Mexico as Capricorn....mmm

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Randall
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posted October 03, 2015 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me either!

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posted October 15, 2015 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But Mexico is defnitely Earth! Taurus is what I would have thought.

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I would have thought Piscis

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