posted May 13, 2006 06:46 AM            

When these two first met it was not possible for them to have a relationship - both had a partner. Then one of them became single, but now the other is also soon to be single.

Do you think this will now begin to move, how promising does it look?

Venus conjunct Venus
Mars conjunct Mars
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun trine North Node
Sun square Pluto
Sun square Chiron
Moon conjunct Chiron
Moon trine Neptune
Moon opposition Venus
Moon opposition Pluto
Mercury sextile Jupiter
Mercury square Neptune
Mercury square Pluto
Venus conjunct Mars
Venus conjunct Saturn
Mars trine Uranus
Mars trine Pluto
Mars sextile Neptune

posted May 13, 2006 12:07 PM              

In general, challenges to relationships occur because of squares or oppositions to personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars). Squares or oppositions BETWEEN personal planets can indicate personal issues, however squares or oppositions from personal planets to OUTER planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) can indicate more significant issues.

In your example I see a few inner-outer squares/oppositions:
Sun square Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto
Mercury square Neptune
Mercury square Pluto

This could indicate long-term issues between them. However, if these squares/oppositions between them are also indicated in their birth charts, then the situation is not as challenging to the relationship. For example, if each person has Sun square Pluto in their charts, then the relationship challenge of Sun square Pluto won't bring any new challenges to them. This is most likely to occur if they are close in age to each other.

As always in relationships, there are no promises for success. It depends on how both work TOGETHER that determines the success or ending of the relationship.

Relating,

posted May 13, 2006 12:17 PM            

Now I checked each Natal chart.

On those 4 aspects you mentioned, in none of them do they BOTH have it in their chart,but here is what I did find:
He has Moon opp Pluto
She has Mecury square Neptune
He has Mercury square Pluto

I'm not sure what bearing, if any, this would have. I understand that you were saying they would both need the aspect in their natal chart for it to "cancel" out in synastry. But I now wonder if the aspects in the natal would have a stronger effect on the synastry?

posted May 13, 2006 08:05 PM              

In synastry, it is helpful to first look at the individual chart of each person to see how their energies work by themselves. In the example of this chart, he is familiar with Moon opposition Pluto energies, but she is not: so Moon opposition Pluto would be more challenging for her. Since She has Mercury square Neptune in her birth chart, she would be more comfortalbe with Mercury square Neptune issues, while he may find them new and uncomfortable. Since he has Mercury square Pluto, Mercury square Pluto issues would be fine for him, but may cause challenges for her.

Putting this into more "normal" language":
He is used to emotional power issues (Moon opposite Pluto), while she may not be

She is used to deceptive talking (Mercury square Neptune), while he may not be

He is used to oppressive talking (Mercury square Pluto), while she may not be

How well he and she handle this new energy brought to them from this relationship could have a lot to do with whether they decide to continue in this relationship with each other.

Still relating,

posted May 17, 2006 11:45 AM              

Grand Trines indicate an easy connection of energy. However, it can also indicate a place of retreat when life gets difficult. In a composite chart, it could indicate a "safe" area in the relationship, where each person can go in case there are difficulties in the rest of the relationship.

Grandly trine,